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UEFA's next move

Postby Original Dub » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:10 pm

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/39355514

Apparently, like FINANCIAL "FAIR" PLAY, this is to stop the evil big teams and give the little guy a chance.

Gosh UEFA, you guys really do care.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby Nickyboy » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:21 pm

That doesn't actually sound so bad on the face of it. The big teams signing far too many players and loaning out more than they keep is a problem IMO
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby Dameerto » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:47 pm

I agree with him about player hoarding (and that's clearly aimed at us and Chelsea at the very least) - but the phrase 'luxury tax' is a bit disturbing, no details given but it sounds like another attempt at punishing us for having a wealthy owner.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby nottsblue » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:54 pm

Juventus have 50 players loaned out. Chelsea and ourselves 30+.

Is it a problem? Are players getting raw deals whilst on loan or being marginalised?

Or is it something to penalise those clubs who are on the verge of challenging the "Blue Ribband" of Bayern, Barca and Madrid?
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby johnny crossan » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:07 pm

nottsblue wrote:Juventus have 50 players loaned out. Chelsea and ourselves 30+.

Is it a problem? Are players getting raw deals whilst on loan or being marginalised?

Or is it something to penalise those clubs who are on the verge of challenging the "Blue Ribband" of Bayern, Barca and Madrid?

we get the prize, we've got the biggest stockpile in the country!
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby Scatman » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:56 pm

Nice PR exercise. Unfortunately the big clubs won't allow it to happen.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby john@staustell » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:08 pm

Scatman wrote:Nice PR exercise. Unfortunately the big clubs won't allow it to happen.


My thoughts Scat. It'll be bye bye Uefa
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby blue b4 the moon » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:57 am

Strange how everything they try to do is aimed at stopping us.

Surely the definition of 'luxury' is not being accountable for debt?

I expect something to be announced to stop CFG once this latest what is probably Gill inspired attempt to leg up the rags fails.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby pepsi_dave » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:08 am

Make no bones about it, UEFA introduced this problem with FFP.

The only reason clubs "Stockpile" players, is so that they can turn a penny and sell them on, thus adding turnover, and profit to the accounts, to help the club pass the FFP regulations.

Yet another of example of how short-sighted UEFA were with their proposal.

I've said it before, IMO the only way to ensure fairness is to have all clubs playing to the same tune. Have a set wage budget, and a set transfer budget that all teams have to work within. None of this, according to turnover bollocks.
Exceed it and you get punished by way of points deduction.
If you're in debt, your limits are reduced etc
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby BlueinBosnia » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:45 am

nottsblue wrote:Juventus have 50 players loaned out. Chelsea and ourselves 30+.

Is it a problem? Are players getting raw deals whilst on loan or being marginalised?

Or is it something to penalise those clubs who are on the verge of challenging the "Blue Ribband" of Bayern, Barca and Madrid?


Interestingly, all three of those teams you mentioned have second teams playing further down their own league systems, meaning they have no need to loan out excess players that they hoard. One result of this could be a push for the bigger leagues to permit second teams playing lower down a league system, something that English football has been vehemently against.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby Sideshow Bob » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:43 pm

pepsi_dave wrote:
I've said it before, IMO the only way to ensure fairness is to have all clubs playing to the same tune. Have a set wage budget, and a set transfer budget that all teams have to work within. None of this, according to turnover bollocks.
Exceed it and you get punished by way of points deduction.
If you're in debt, your limits are reduced etc


that would be horrid. parity is boring AF.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:40 pm

City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby Scatman » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:39 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.


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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby BlueinBosnia » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:45 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We could save a bit of cash by just doing monkey chants for 90 minutes instead.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby nottsblue » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:54 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
nottsblue wrote:Juventus have 50 players loaned out. Chelsea and ourselves 30+.

Is it a problem? Are players getting raw deals whilst on loan or being marginalised?

Or is it something to penalise those clubs who are on the verge of challenging the "Blue Ribband" of Bayern, Barca and Madrid?


Interestingly, all three of those teams you mentioned have second teams playing further down their own league systems, meaning they have no need to loan out excess players that they hoard. One result of this could be a push for the bigger leagues to permit second teams playing lower down a league system, something that English football has been vehemently against.

Excellent point BiB.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby Dameerto » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:24 am

BlueinBosnia wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We could save a bit of cash by just doing monkey chants for 90 minutes instead.

Had me laughing, but sadly very true.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby gillie » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:29 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We should just set up standing orders to UEFA and The FA to pay them their extortion money.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby mr_nool » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:39 pm

gillie wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We should just set up standing orders to UEFA and The FA to pay them their extortion money.


Hi mate, great to see you back!
Hope you are doing OK in spite of all.
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby gillie » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:45 pm

mr_nool wrote:
gillie wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We should just set up standing orders to UEFA and The FA to pay them their extortion money.


Hi mate, great to see you back!
Hope you are doing OK in spite of all.

Yeah Erik I'm doing fine although today has been hard. You ok mate?
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Re: UEFA's next move

Postby mr_nool » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:49 pm

gillie wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
gillie wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:City have been fined €18,000 by UEFA for an 'invasion by supporters', objects thrown and late kick-off during the February game vs. Monaco.

We should just set up standing orders to UEFA and The FA to pay them their extortion money.


Hi mate, great to see you back!
Hope you are doing OK in spite of all.

Yeah Erik I'm doing fine although today has been hard. You ok mate?


Yes, I'm just fine mate although it's been way too long since i was in Manchester. Thinking about running the half marathon on October 15, which would be my next visit. I'll be in touch if so.
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