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Postby freshie » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:14 pm

Great news. Really, really hope it's true. I want nothing more than to see a City squad with plenty of talented, academy trained players
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby CTID Hants » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:22 pm

Wooders wrote:I am really pleased - especially about Denayer


He certainly seemed to earn his stripes up at Celtic, but it's not the PL.....

It should be automatic they get put on every time we are 3 ahead with 20 minutes to go. Hopefully the targets we have coming will mean that is fairly regular. I can certainly see this helping the likes of Vinny, MDM, YaYa from age and injury aspect and then Kelechi Nacho for Kun if he continues to get injured.

I can only see a win win in this
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby Saul Goodman » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:49 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:Call me a cynic but i dont see them getting much time. Maybe some in the early cup games, especially Denayer. Unless we lose a striker (injury or transfer) i cant Nacho playing much of a part.

I hope im wrong though.


Denayer should replace Kompany immediately.

Pellegrini will do no such thing, which is frustrating
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby CTID Hants » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:50 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:Call me a cynic but i dont see them getting much time. Maybe some in the early cup games, especially Denayer. Unless we lose a striker (injury or transfer) i cant Nacho playing much of a part.

I hope im wrong though.


Denayer should replace Kompany immediately.

Pellegrini will do no such thing, which is frustrating


As I said earlier in the thread, despite having done well in the SPL achieving YPO, it is no bench mark for the EPL and certainly no bench mark for him to be an auto start to ahead of the club captain (despite his shocking season just gone.

He is a talent, but not one to be thrown in at the deep end within a squad like ours, Mangala has been criticised for his performances by some on here (excepting the price paid for him), like Denayer he has no EPL experience, likewise you cannot argue that Portugese league is EPL level. Barring defensive injuries I suspect Mangala too wouldn't have been afforded the rabbits to headlights that he has. Listen to his interviews and he openly admits the learning curve. The one thing Denayer may have garnered from his time at Celtic might have been UCL experience (I cannot verify that as I don't know if he played in UCL at all).


To think he or any of the three SUPPOSEDLY being included in the first team SQUAD, are going to be game changers instantly is ludicrous at best.

I welcome all three, but let's not run away with ourselves here?
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby DoomMerchant » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:17 am

CTID Hants wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:Call me a cynic but i dont see them getting much time. Maybe some in the early cup games, especially Denayer. Unless we lose a striker (injury or transfer) i cant Nacho playing much of a part.

I hope im wrong though.


Denayer should replace Kompany immediately.

Pellegrini will do no such thing, which is frustrating


As I said earlier in the thread, despite having done well in the SPL achieving YPO, it is no bench mark for the EPL and certainly no bench mark for him to be an auto start to ahead of the club captain (despite his shocking season just gone.

He is a talent, but not one to be thrown in at the deep end within a squad like ours, Mangala has been criticised for his performances by some on here (excepting the price paid for him), like Denayer he has no EPL experience, likewise you cannot argue that Portugese league is EPL level. Barring defensive injuries I suspect Mangala too wouldn't have been afforded the rabbits to headlights that he has. Listen to his interviews and he openly admits the learning curve. The one thing Denayer may have garnered from his time at Celtic might have been UCL experience (I cannot verify that as I don't know if he played in UCL at all).


To think he or any of the three SUPPOSEDLY being included in the first team SQUAD, are going to be game changers instantly is ludicrous at best.

I welcome all three, but let's not run away with ourselves here?


Nacho could be.

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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby Slim » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:44 am

I was thinking the same, Nacho looks like he could make an impact.
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby Saul Goodman » Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:55 am

CTID Hants wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:Call me a cynic but i dont see them getting much time. Maybe some in the early cup games, especially Denayer. Unless we lose a striker (injury or transfer) i cant Nacho playing much of a part.

I hope im wrong though.


Denayer should replace Kompany immediately.

Pellegrini will do no such thing, which is frustrating


As I said earlier in the thread, despite having done well in the SPL achieving YPO, it is no bench mark for the EPL and certainly no bench mark for him to be an auto start to ahead of the club captain (despite his shocking season just gone.

He is a talent, but not one to be thrown in at the deep end within a squad like ours, Mangala has been criticised for his performances by some on here (excepting the price paid for him), like Denayer he has no EPL experience, likewise you cannot argue that Portugese league is EPL level. Barring defensive injuries I suspect Mangala too wouldn't have been afforded the rabbits to headlights that he has. Listen to his interviews and he openly admits the learning curve. The one thing Denayer may have garnered from his time at Celtic might have been UCL experience (I cannot verify that as I don't know if he played in UCL at all).


To think he or any of the three SUPPOSEDLY being included in the first team SQUAD, are going to be game changers instantly is ludicrous at best.

I welcome all three, but let's not run away with ourselves here?

I was merely mentioning Pellegrini's stubborness and resistance to drop "big" players (Yaya, the captain) when their form dips and warrants being dropped and was not implying that Denayer should just be forced into the starting xi after his stint in the lowly SPL
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:11 am

CTID Hants wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:Call me a cynic but i dont see them getting much time. Maybe some in the early cup games, especially Denayer. Unless we lose a striker (injury or transfer) i cant Nacho playing much of a part.

I hope im wrong though.


Denayer should replace Kompany immediately.

Pellegrini will do no such thing, which is frustrating


As I said earlier in the thread, despite having done well in the SPL achieving YPO, it is no bench mark for the EPL and certainly no bench mark for him to be an auto start to ahead of the club captain (despite his shocking season just gone.

He is a talent, but not one to be thrown in at the deep end within a squad like ours, Mangala has been criticised for his performances by some on here (excepting the price paid for him), like Denayer he has no EPL experience, likewise you cannot argue that Portugese league is EPL level. Barring defensive injuries I suspect Mangala too wouldn't have been afforded the rabbits to headlights that he has. Listen to his interviews and he openly admits the learning curve. The one thing Denayer may have garnered from his time at Celtic might have been UCL experience (I cannot verify that as I don't know if he played in UCL at all).


To think he or any of the three SUPPOSEDLY being included in the first team SQUAD, are going to be game changers instantly is ludicrous at best.

I welcome all three, but let's not run away with ourselves here?


Denayer has learned absolutely loads at Celtic, in the league & in Europe.

He played Champions League & Europa League, where he marshalled the Celtic defence at the San Siro after his partner was sent off ten minutes in. Then repeated it for Belgium on debut, after Kompany was sent off. Belgian boss preferred to put Denayer at centre back in spite of the fact that he had two Premier League centrebacks playing at fullback already on the pitch, who he could have just moved over. Chose Denayer bcause he thinks he's going to be world class there. Denayer made Kompany look like Johnny Evans by comparison.

Kelechi will be 100% match fit by August, & will win some games for the first team next season. I think there are several more who should be used so that they are full squad members by this time next year.
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby CTID Hants » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:20 am

Saul Goodman wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Saul Goodman wrote:Call me a cynic but i dont see them getting much time. Maybe some in the early cup games, especially Denayer. Unless we lose a striker (injury or transfer) i cant Nacho playing much of a part.

I hope im wrong though.


Denayer should replace Kompany immediately.

Pellegrini will do no such thing, which is frustrating


I was merely mentioning Pellegrini's stubborness and resistance to drop "big" players (Yaya, the captain) when their form dips and warrants being dropped and was not implying that Denayer should just be forced into the starting xi after his stint in the lowly SPL


VK was dropped by pellets for at least 3 games after being declared fit toward the end of season, Yaya 2 games too..
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:55 am

Wasnt dropped at all , he was coming back from a strained muscle and MDM and MANGALA were already playing x amount of games together so there was little chance he was going to take one out from the starting line up to put captain fuckup in his place...hence why he came on as a sub towards the end......
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby john@staustell » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:13 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:Wasnt dropped at all , he was coming back from a strained muscle and MDM and MANGALA were already playing x amount of games together so there was little chance he was going to take one out from the starting line up to put captain fuckup in his place...hence why he came on as a sub towards the end......


Disagree Carl. Even when he's been 'fit' he's been awful - charging around like a wild bull. With Demichelis organising Mangala it was so much more stable - haven't they played together umpteen times and never lost?

Kompany has become a bit of a liability. My hope is that he can get a rest, a full pre-season, stay fit and get back to what he was, not over-trying.
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby JamieMCFC » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:34 am

john@staustell wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Wasnt dropped at all , he was coming back from a strained muscle and MDM and MANGALA were already playing x amount of games together so there was little chance he was going to take one out from the starting line up to put captain fuckup in his place...hence why he came on as a sub towards the end......


Disagree Carl. Even when he's been 'fit' he's been awful - charging around like a wild bull. With Demichelis organising Mangala it was so much more stable - haven't they played together umpteen times and never lost?

Kompany has become a bit of a liability. My hope is that he can get a rest, a full pre-season, stay fit and get back to what he was, not over-trying.


Kompany will be out with an injury at least 3 times this upcoming season. I don't know if he comes back to soon or if it's just genetics with him. But the chances of him not being injured is slim to non.
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby Wonderwall » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:00 am

john@staustell wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Wasnt dropped at all , he was coming back from a strained muscle and MDM and MANGALA were already playing x amount of games together so there was little chance he was going to take one out from the starting line up to put captain fuckup in his place...hence why he came on as a sub towards the end......


Disagree Carl. Even when he's been 'fit' he's been awful - charging around like a wild bull. With Demichelis organising Mangala it was so much more stable - haven't they played together umpteen times and never lost?

Kompany has become a bit of a liability. My hope is that he can get a rest, a full pre-season, stay fit and get back to what he was, not over-trying.


I think you two are arguing the same point. Carl doesn't defend Kompany!
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:01 am

If these three cut the mustard then we will have a new spine of the team for a long time.

Hope it works and these lads go on to be big stars for club and country.
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby DoomMerchant » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:42 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:If these three cut the mustard then we will have a new spine of the team for a long time.

Hope it works and these lads go on to be big stars for club and country.


for everyone's bitching and moaning, mine included at times of course, this is a big big fucking deal. If any of them does anything significant next season then it's more than any other top flight clubs are doing other than Barca.

We might actually be the English Barca now. Fuck you Soccs. How do you like them apples?

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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby Plain Speaking » Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:45 pm

Anyone been watching Iheanacho at the under 20s World Cup? Nigeria lost their first game 4-2 to Brazil, Iheanacho was taken off on 75 mins when it was 3-2.

They won their second game 4-0 against North Korea but Iheanacho was an unused substitute.
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby Whassat » Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:11 pm

We need to let talent make it through the academy; Theres been a few that should have made the grade from 2008 and onwards. The management has been too strict regarding this, and it has probably affected us economically.
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:03 am

Whassat wrote:We need to let talent make it through the academy; Theres been a few that should have made the grade from 2008 and onwards. The management has been too strict regarding this, and it has probably affected us economically.


There have been very few players who have left City's academy recently, who were of sufficient standard to play in our first team in this era, or even then post takeover. There have been some who may have had the required talent, but they were each carrying serious flaws. With some, their lack of actual football nous has meant they were simply not able to operate at the level required. I doubt there's anything Silva could do with a football that Vlad Weiss can't, but Weiss had absolutely no idea how to play football; he played like a ten year old. Lee Croft was a wheezing fat fuck. Add various rapists, muggers, psychopaths, drink drive murderers, even just plain old big headed cunts etc.

If some of those lads came through after ten years in the present system, they might have a chance as footballers & some might be a bit better trained as human beings , but the old system was mainly producing players for the Championship (& Strangeways).
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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:24 am

DoomMerchant wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:If these three cut the mustard then we will have a new spine of the team for a long time.

Hope it works and these lads go on to be big stars for club and country.


for everyone's bitching and moaning, mine included at times of course, this is a big big fucking deal. If any of them does anything significant next season then it's more than any other top flight clubs are doing other than Barca.

We might actually be the English Barca now. Fuck you Soccs. How do you like them apples?

cheers


What has poor old Socs done to merit an 'out of the blue' comment of such an acetic nature. In all fairness, he hasn't posted very much of late.

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Re: Denayer, Iheanacho and Lopes to be promoted

Postby ant london » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:29 am

Soccs and the BoSpa's are evergreen whipping boys IMO

As you were you slapheaded doom monger
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