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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Im_Spartacus » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:56 pm

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Im_Spartacus wrote:I see Mourinho as a bit of a caricature of a man, both in how he portrays himself and how others in the media portray him, and so it's hard to take him seriously. Rodgers and Pardew on the other hand are just natural cunts, they can't help it, whereas Mourinho has a certain like ability.

Having said that, having read the book about his time at Real Madrid, far bigger questions are raised about his 'arry like transfer dealings at both Real and Chelsea first time round, where he would only pick players represented by a certain agent, and was almost certainly getting kickbacks for signing them from other clubs and marginalising existing players until they signed with said agent. He is a very dodgy cunt, and it's surprising he got away with what he has to date from the financial perspective


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The more I read about this sort of stuff, the more I understand how corrupt it all is. I think the practice of managers and agents feeding off each other has been going on for many years and is very deep rooted. OMERTA....It is the secret (among a number of others) that daren't be spoken about. The point where Football, high finance and criminality meet but Sshhhhhhhhhh!

I also believe this has tainted our own club under at least 2 managers pre Mansour. I was told about stuff happening at the swamp a number of years ago regarding a young prospect and there is a reported link between a famous manager,West Brom and a particular agent.

Those involved would consider it a perk of the trade and part of the game.

As the media allfeed from the same toxic trough,I am not surprised it is not public knowledge or reported on,or that Maureen or anyone else gets away with it.


Yes, it's depressing that it is clearly quite widespread, and you can kind of understand in the days before big money entered the game, why managers would want a cut of a profit on a player sale. These days though, at the top of the tree, it seems indefensible. Jorge Mendes, even had the biggest office at the Real Madrid training ground, and thus there wasn't even any pretence to what was going on.

THEN, you get articles like this from the Telegraph this summer, clearly knowing the situation is bent but refusing to ask pertinent questions, and then going as far as saying there is nothing wrong with it!

"Diego Costa’s impending £32 million move to Chelsea represents another triumph for Jorge Mendes, who is rightly described as a super-agent. It also marks another piece of big transfer business in which Jose Mourinho has acquired a player represented by the man who represents him.

A conservative estimate is that Costa will become the seventh Mendes client Mourinho has signed for Chelsea over two spells. And at least one other is to follow. Add in Inter Milan and Real Madrid and Mourinho has made at least 12 signings involving Mendes.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in that especially as Mendes’ has such a good track record of delivering. Many managers share agents – or agencies – with players they buy: such as West Ham United’s Sam Allardyce who is looked after by the agent Mark Curtis whose biggest clients include the club’s record purchase Andy Carroll and captain Kevin Nolan.

The links between Mourinho and Mendes are extremely strong and date from the day the agent gained the mandate to organise the manager’s departure from Porto to join Chelsea back in the summer of 2004.

Such is Mendes’s influence and ability to get things done that it is often said that any player – or coach – who leaves Portugal usually has to go through him. That is not far from the truth such is the reputation he has for getting deals done."
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby twosips » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:27 pm

The thing i detest most about Mourinho is how he thinks he's incredibly amusing. He makes a shit joke and waits for his cronies in the press to laugh. He genuinely thinks he's hilarious - he's about as cutting and satirical as mock the fucking week.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:43 am

twosips wrote:The thing i detest most about Mourinho is how he thinks he's incredibly amusing. He makes a shit joke and waits for his cronies in the press to laugh. He genuinely thinks he's hilarious - he's about as cutting and satirical as mock the fucking week.


It wouldn't be a problem if they say there in silence, but they giggle like schoolgirls. Spurs put 5 past them and on MOTD he stood there saying they should have had a penalty at 1-0, which everyone else says wasn't, and that teams don't beat Chelsea if they are 2-0 up. Why didn't the journo say 1) it wasn't a penalty 2) you could have gone 4-0 and still lost, so why were your defence so shit?

That's what pisses me off about Maureen - not him, the sycophants in the press. If they just ignored him or laughed at him rather than his comments, he'd have a melt down.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby zuricity » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:14 am

Blue Since 76 wrote:
twosips wrote:The thing i detest most about Mourinho is how he thinks he's incredibly amusing. He makes a shit joke and waits for his cronies in the press to laugh. He genuinely thinks he's hilarious - he's about as cutting and satirical as mock the fucking week.


It wouldn't be a problem if they say there in silence, but they giggle like schoolgirls. Spurs put 5 past them and on MOTD he stood there saying they should have had a penalty at 1-0, which everyone else says wasn't, and that teams don't beat Chelsea if they are 2-0 up. Why didn't the journo say 1) it wasn't a penalty 2) you could have gone 4-0 and still lost, so why were your defence so shit?

That's what pisses me off about Maureen - not him, the sycophants in the press. If they just ignored him or laughed at him rather than his comments, he'd have a melt down.



Ha ! You're asking way too much from a Journalist. Actually you aren't...

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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:30 am

Yes, it's depressing that it is clearly quite widespread, and you can kind of understand in the days before big money entered the game, why managers would want a cut of a profit on a player sale. These days though, at the top of the tree, it seems indefensible. Jorge Mendes, even had the biggest office at the Real Madrid training ground, and thus there wasn't even any pretence to what was going on.

THEN, you get articles like this from the Telegraph this summer, clearly knowing the situation is bent but refusing to ask pertinent questions, and then going as far as saying there is nothing wrong with it!

"Diego Costa’s impending £32 million move to Chelsea represents another triumph for Jorge Mendes, who is rightly described as a super-agent. It also marks another piece of big transfer business in which Jose Mourinho has acquired a player represented by the man who represents him.

A conservative estimate is that Costa will become the seventh Mendes client Mourinho has signed for Chelsea over two spells. And at least one other is to follow. Add in Inter Milan and Real Madrid and Mourinho has made at least 12 signings involving Mendes.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in that especially as Mendes’ has such a good track record of delivering. Many managers share agents – or agencies – with players they buy: such as West Ham United’s Sam Allardyce who is looked after by the agent Mark Curtis whose biggest clients include the club’s record purchase Andy Carroll and captain Kevin Nolan.

The links between Mourinho and Mendes are extremely strong and date from the day the agent gained the mandate to organise the manager’s departure from Porto to join Chelsea back in the summer of 2004.

Such is Mendes’s influence and ability to get things done that it is often said that any player – or coach – who leaves Portugal usually has to go through him. That is not far from the truth such is the reputation he has for getting deals done."


I remember a football show I watched a few years ago that talked about Italy and they said that a very important factor was who knew who, in the sense which sporting director had connections with which agents and so on. Which I'm kind of sure applies to the Spanish league as well.. It's kind of mind boggling to think that these clubs spend millions and millions of pounds on players and an important factor is such a trivial factor like who is bessies with who. If this show was right. I have no idea.

On the other hand, as you say with Mendes, if the connections turn out alright and they can get good players through them why not. If I was a football player though, I'd find it very frustrating to know that I'd have to politick with the right people to improve my chances to make my desired transfer.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Cit.revenge » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:51 pm

That this guy never but never when he lose some the game did not say we played badly, but immediately judges, kids who throw balls, conspiracy, the Illuminati, the Freemasons, aliens, chemtrails, people lizards ...
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby iwasthere2012 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:51 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
twosips wrote:The thing i detest most about Mourinho is how he thinks he's incredibly amusing. He makes a shit joke and waits for his cronies in the press to laugh. He genuinely thinks he's hilarious - he's about as cutting and satirical as mock the fucking week.


It wouldn't be a problem if they say there in silence, but they giggle like schoolgirls. Spurs put 5 past them and on MOTD he stood there saying they should have had a penalty at 1-0, which everyone else says wasn't, and that teams don't beat Chelsea if they are 2-0 up. Why didn't the journo say 1) it wasn't a penalty 2) you could have gone 4-0 and still lost, so why were your defence so shit?

That's what pisses me off about Maureen - not him, the sycophants in the press. If they just ignored him or laughed at him rather than his comments, he'd have a melt down.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see him have a meltdown before the end of the season anyway. I can see him cracking, if we keep the pressure on.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby nottsblue » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:13 pm

iwasthere2012 wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
twosips wrote:The thing i detest most about Mourinho is how he thinks he's incredibly amusing. He makes a shit joke and waits for his cronies in the press to laugh. He genuinely thinks he's hilarious - he's about as cutting and satirical as mock the fucking week.


It wouldn't be a problem if they say there in silence, but they giggle like schoolgirls. Spurs put 5 past them and on MOTD he stood there saying they should have had a penalty at 1-0, which everyone else says wasn't, and that teams don't beat Chelsea if they are 2-0 up. Why didn't the journo say 1) it wasn't a penalty 2) you could have gone 4-0 and still lost, so why were your defence so shit?

That's what pisses me off about Maureen - not him, the sycophants in the press. If they just ignored him or laughed at him rather than his comments, he'd have a melt down.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see him have a meltdown before the end of the season anyway. I can see him cracking, if we keep the pressure on.

It's started now. He's shitting it now and we haven't even got past January. Imagine what he'll be like in April when we are top of the pile, still in FA cup and Champs League. He'll go a shade of purple even Bacon couldn't muster.

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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Goaters 103 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:41 pm

Desperate cries for attention from his adoring press. Quite sad really.

A psychologist would have a field day with it but the UK press pack simply queue up to lick his balls, similar to the way they did with Ferguson who treated them like shit for years and they still worshipped him. The same psychologist would have a field day with that load of hacks as well.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby john68 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:20 am

They lick his arse because he gives them fullback page headlines on a plate.It means the lazy bastards don't have to think and write at the same time.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby zuricity » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:39 am

john68 wrote:They lick his arse because he gives them fullback page headlines on a plate.It means the lazy bastards don't have to think and write at the same time.



Don't ask Journos to do two things at once John !
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:14 am

His latest snidey backhanded comment is why I find him the most detestable. Yes, you've got the self-proclaimed Klanfield Technician but that pails into insignificance when it comes to the likes of Maureen. Brenda is nothing compared to his master.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:13 am

He needs a cuddle thats all. Must be hard to have everything in London and have nothing a the same time. Utter twat as a a man. Sunday Supp script wiriter to boot. How does he fit it all in.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:16 am

Hazy2 wrote:He needs a cuddle thats all. Must be hard to have everything in London and have nothing a the same time. Utter twat as a a man. Sunday Supp script wiriter to boot. How does he fit it all in.


Sorry, add us showing an interest is Ashly Cole before the 31/1 and I would think he could jump in the Thames along with Paddy Barclay another twat ! Cheers
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby twosips » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:29 am

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Posted it in another thread but feels more appropriate here. Fucking lol.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Lev Bronstein » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:32 am

Funny how the press in Italy and Spain seemed immune to his charms, no wonder he wanted to come back here.

Apart from our media, who lap up his every word, who else takes his utterances seriously? (Sometimes, I don't think even he does)
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby City64 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:47 am

Can see the cunt have a breakdown in the next couple of months if we keep turning the screw ;-)
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby AntMcfc » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:44 am

Why do you hate Mourinho? The guy is a serial winner, he knows nothing but winning and he will do whatever it takes. I love the guy.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Tokyo Blue » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:53 am

AntMcfc wrote:Why do you hate Mourinho? The guy is a serial winner, he knows nothing but winning and he will do whatever it takes. I love the guy.


Well, there you go. Quod erat demonstrandum.
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Re: Is Mourinho the most detestable Prem Manager

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:10 am

AntMcfc wrote:Why do you hate Mourinho? The guy is a serial winner, he knows nothing but winning and he will do whatever it takes. I love the guy.


You love the guy that essentially accuses our club of cheating? Weird.
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