Richard Dunne

[Dubciteh]

Just a couple of points on him in relation to Hughes.

i was gutted when i found out the way hughes has gone(and still am) however its worth noting that Hughes fucked Dunne out without much thought and what goes around comes around.

Also i think letting dunne go has ultimatly cost him his job, our defence hadnt conceded any goals(4 clean sheets in a row was it?) and we were unbeaten in the 1st four games and then we sell dunne, to make it worse while weakening us we also strengthened one of our rivals. Contrary to what some people think on here Dunne still has it and is shown as hes the form defender in the league and possibly the buy of the season.

I think Richard might be one of the few people with a small smile on his face this morning...

[Wooders]

its not the defenders its the tactics.
Dunne was bloody awful last season in case you forgot, ok, so it wasn't right that he appeared to carry the can for our defensive failings and got fucked off by hughes - I do think it was the right decision to part with him though, he was stagnating here.

[City1970]

Dunne needed a change of scene. He was stale and bloody terrible last season, but he was always a good defender. His time at Villa proves that now.

I dont suppose Dunne will have much, if anything to say about this, as his main problem seemed to be with Cook.

[Beeks]

I reckon we put a cheeky bid in for him in January ;-)

[Vhero]

I think at the time we all agreed on here or mostly all agreed Dunne had to go he wasn't doing it for us. Also he was never top 4 materiel anyways so can we just quit with this please?

[Dubciteh]

I reckon we put a cheeky bid in for him in January ;-)

Prob cost us 20m and im not even joking.

its not the defenders its the tactics.
Dunne was bloody awful last season in case you forgot, ok, so it wasn't right that he appeared to carry the can for our defensive failings and got fucked off by hughes - I do think it was the right decision to part with him though, he was stagnating here.

So its not the defenders its the tactics this season but last season it was the defenders???hmmmmm you sure?

Dunne was the heart and soul of the club and was starting to form a great relation ship with given and the rest of the back four. Last season he was pract a one man defence(albeit not a very good one man defence). It was the wrong decision to part with him and the wrong decision to sell him to villa and in an indirect way has cost hughes his job...My other point was Hughes showed dunne no loyality and fucked him over and the club showed hughes no loyality and fucked him out so he cant complain on that front imo.

[Dubciteh]

I think at the time we all agreed on here or mostly all agreed Dunne had to go he wasn't doing it for us. Also he was never top 4 materiel anyways so can we just quit with this please?

never top 4 material?according to who?you and edge?seen the league table recently, seen any stats to show the best defender in the country is at the moment?

[Vhero]

I reckon we put a cheeky bid in for him in January ;-)

Prob cost us 20m and im not even joking.

its not the defenders its the tactics.
Dunne was bloody awful last season in case you forgot, ok, so it wasn't right that he appeared to carry the can for our defensive failings and got fucked off by hughes - I do think it was the right decision to part with him though, he was stagnating here.

So its not the defenders its the tactics this season but last season it was the defenders???hmmmmm you sure?

Dunne was the heart and soul of the club and was starting to form a great relation ship with given and the rest of the back four. Last season he was pract a one man defence(albeit not a very good one man defence). It was the wrong decision to part with him and the wrong decision to sell him to villa and in an indirect way has cost hughes his job...My other point was Hughes showed dunne no loyality and fucked him over and the club showed hughes no loyality and fucked him out so he cant complain on that front imo.

I agree Hughes showed him no loyalty and Dunne should never have been shipped out and should have just been dropped to the bench instead for situations like we have come into now. The irony of the Dunne situation is hilarious. Hughes fucked Dunne over then Hughes got fucked over. Well what's comes around...

[Vhero]

I think at the time we all agreed on here or mostly all agreed Dunne had to go he wasn't doing it for us. Also he was never top 4 materiel anyways so can we just quit with this please?

never top 4 material?according to who?you and edge?seen the league table recently, seen any stats to show the best defender in the country is at the moment?

Still would have Vidic or Terry over him any day of the week mate. He playing to prove something at the moment lets see how long he can keep it up for. Maybe its the fact he got a new partner who he can work with who knows?

[Beeks]

Dunny was one of my fave City players...I don't think he got a fair crack of the whip under the money...I reckon with better players around him he would have rediscovered his form...but he's a Villa player now...too little too late

[Vhero]

Dunny was one of my fave City players...I don't think he got a fair crack of the whip under the money...I reckon with better players around him he would have rediscovered his form...but he's a Villa player now...too little too late

Hes not got many years left in him at top level anyways mate so not much really to dwell on.

[Dubciteh]

I think at the time we all agreed on here or mostly all agreed Dunne had to go he wasn't doing it for us. Also he was never top 4 materiel anyways so can we just quit with this please?

never top 4 material?according to who?you and edge?seen the league table recently, seen any stats to show the best defender in the country is at the moment?

Still would have Vidic or Terry over him any day of the week mate. He playing to prove something at the moment lets see how long he can keep it up for. Maybe its the fact he got a new partner who he can work with who knows?

Im not saying Dunne is the best in the business, im just saying that if hughes had kept with him theres a good chance he would still have a job. hes had at least two different partners since he went to villa, id imagine the all round stability to the team has helped him alot. hes been fantastic recently and been everything that weve missed/needed from our own centre backs.

[Wooders]

its not the defenders its the tactics.
Dunne was bloody awful last season in case you forgot, ok, so it wasn't right that he appeared to carry the can for our defensive failings and got fucked off by hughes - I do think it was the right decision to part with him though, he was stagnating here.

So its not the defenders its the tactics this season but last season it was the defenders???hmmmmm you sure?

Dunne was the heart and soul of the club and was starting to form a great relation ship with given and the rest of the back four. Last season he was pract a one man defence(albeit not a very good one man defence). It was the wrong decision to part with him and the wrong decision to sell him to villa and in an indirect way has cost hughes his job...My other point was Hughes showed dunne no loyality and fucked him over and the club showed hughes no loyality and fucked him out so he cant complain on that front imo.

if you read my whole post you will see that dunney getting blamed is exactly what I said was "not right"
However, I do think that sometimes players need to change clubs to re-ignite their careers, I do feel this is the case with Dunney and he would probably agree I reckon.

[King Kev]

Selling Dunne was the biggest of hughes's (many) mistakes and I agree that it may well have cost him his job.

A lot of people seemed to think that Dunne was crap last season, however if you look at how well he is doing for Villa it seems pretty obvious that he is still a very good player.

Had we had Dunne rather than Lescott or Toure at the heart of our defence this season a few of those draws could have been wins and hughes could still be in a job.

I'd have Dunne back in a heart-beat but I can't see it happening.

[zuricity]

Selling Dunne was the biggest of hughe's (many) mistakes and I agree that it may well have cost him his job.

A lot of people seemed to think that Dunne was crap last season, however if you look at how well he is doing for Villa it seems pretty obvious that he is still a very good player.

Had we had Dunne rather than Lescott or Toure at the heart of our defense this season a few of those draws could have been wins and hughes could still be in a job.

I'd have Dunne back in a heart-beat but I can't see it happening.

I think City should do a straight swap , Toure for Dunne.

Nah, seriously, I really was disappointed in Hughes when he let Dunne go and the way it was carried out. Even letting Cook take the blame for it. It was really a very bad management decision to let him go and now we are suffering because of it. He even scored against us !

Toure for me has been a disaster at the heart of our defence. I don't know, some people say he too is injured. Whatever it is, he has been the most disappointing signing for me after Barry.

I'd have Dunne back tomorrow, to hell with the expense.

[aristation]

I think the failure to manage the Dunne situation in man management terms was one of the major failings which showed Leslies limitations. If we are going to have a vibrant squad we need to manage good players who do not play every week and Leslie couldn't do this
This is one of Mancinis skills we are told

[Slim]

Selling Dunne was the biggest of hughes's (many) mistakes and I agree that it may well have cost him his job.

A lot of people seemed to think that Dunne was crap last season, however if you look at how well he is doing for Villa it seems pretty obvious that he is still a very good player.

Had we had Dunne rather than Lescott or Toure at the heart of our defence this season a few of those draws could have been wins and hughes could still be in a job.

I'd have Dunne back in a heart-beat but I can't see it happening.

I touched on this when we sold him and someone mentioned it earlier in the thread, I think had we kept him he would not be playing as well as he is for Villa, the change was good for him and has given him new fans to win over. Eventually players run flat and need a change of scenery to turn them around.

[Patrick]

Couple of points

Dunnie is now playing his best footy like we used to see - It could be down to many factors, timing, structure, manager, formation no one will ever know but it does seem like a change is as good as a rest to me

Secondly we arent a sunday league "all mates together" team any more we are a club owned by some of the richest businessmen in the world andI dont believe either his or hughes sacking was that bad - city have made both men very very rich and with high salaries comes high expectations - neither made their sackings unavoidable and neither will have to go home for xmas telling their families there is no xmas turkey this year

If we want to be world class we have to become ruthless - our owners are ruthless - and thats the only way to win

[dikdik]

Agree with other posters we get Dunne back next month.
It's a double whammy. We strengthen our team at the same time as weakening one of our main rivals for the fourth spot.