Wonderwall wrote:Socrates wrote:Wonderwall wrote:CityFanFromRome wrote:Because Ancelotti is doing bad at Chelsea, right? I admire the Premiership a lot and think the best football is played in England, but I wouldn't be so sure it's easier to manage in Italy than in England. You guys have no idea what kind of pressure managers are under over here, from the fans and the press. If you think Hughes has it bad with fans calling for him being sacked for months, etc. you should see what happens on the papers to Mourinho every time Inter doesn't win a game, or what Juve fans and the press think of Ferrara right now, just to make two examples.The Original Special One wrote:If Hughes is 'gone' and it is Mancini, then it could only be as an 'Avram Grant' because managing, and playing, in Italy is one thing, but managing in top-flight English football is a different matter entirely
ancelotti inherited a TOP CLASS european and english winning machine. How is Zola doing?
and made them better... This stuff based on nationality is bizarre anyway, individuals are individuals. And Avram Grant was a penalty shoot out away from winning the Champs League, so that's just as bad an example as Ramos who won a trophy at Spurs when in an impossible position.
how has he made them better?
Socrates wrote:
look at the table...
1831: BREAKING NEWS: Manchester City have confirmed the sacking of manager Mark Hughes, and announced the appointment of Roberto Mancini as his replacement.
Blueboylewis wrote:Breaking news-
Hughes has been sacked and Mancini has took over!
Wonderwall wrote:CityFanFromRome wrote:Because Ancelotti is doing bad at Chelsea, right? I admire the Premiership a lot and think the best football is played in England, but I wouldn't be so sure it's easier to manage in Italy than in England. You guys have no idea what kind of pressure managers are under over here, from the fans and the press. If you think Hughes has it bad with fans calling for him being sacked for months, etc. you should see what happens on the papers to Mourinho every time Inter doesn't win a game, or what Juve fans and the press think of Ferrara right now, just to make two examples.The Original Special One wrote:avoidconfusion wrote:I was in the Hughes IN camp for a long time, then on the fence and recently leaned more towards the Hughes OUT camp.... but I feel bad for him now actually... maybe I shouldn't... but I heard the replacement is Mancini.... yea he won 4 Coppa Italias and 3 League titles in Italy.... but is he gonna do better than Hughes?
I hope so...
But what about the likes of Bellamy and RSC (and Tevez?) who worked their socks off for Hughes... I hope they will be professional and do the same for the next manager.
If Hughes is 'gone' and it is Mancini, then it could only be as an 'Avram Grant' because managing, and playing, in Italy is one thing, but managing in top-flight English football is a different matter entirely
ancelotti inherited a TOP CLASS european and english winning machine. How is Zola doing?
Wonderwall wrote:Socrates wrote:
look at the table...
HA HA HA HA
THEREFORE HUGHES MADE US BETTER
look at the table
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Socrates wrote:ross.mcfc wrote:Socrates wrote:ross.mcfc wrote:ENIAM NAM wrote:
I appreciate that Socrates, but i really, really don,t see mancini as the answer. Personally, I would have stuck with Hughes, but I understand the reasons for getting rid of him. I am just very underwhelmed with the replacement!
Could not have put it better myself. Hughes had his chance and didnt seize it. He can have no complaints. But his replacement, We are employing a guy who has whored himself about any job going and been knocked back by West Ham, Spurs (twice) and even put his cv in at Blackburn.
He has no trak record outside Italy, Never won a league title at Inter that was not handed to him in the courts or when the usual main rivals were dropped down to Seria B. Down nothing in the CL and was eventually replaces for that reason. Replaced by a manager who IS the type of calibre we should be aiming for.
Quarter final of Champions League is obviously way below the achievements of Mr Hughes, see your point. Inter were on the up already before the main rivals were punished and Manciniproved able to MAKE THE MOST OF THE OPPORTUNITY. Something Hughes has failed to do. He also won cups with both his other management jobs. How much Prem experience did Mourinho have before Chelsea or Wenger before Arsenal?
You mean Mourinho who won the CL with a 2nd tier side or Wenger who had won titles worldwide?
Why has he been rejected by several Premiership clubs? Why has he been out of a job for so long. The argumment about the pay off from Inter and not being able to manage elsewhere is not valid, It was a one year deal and meant he was on the pay role for the rest of his contract and it would have been canceled if he took another job in that time he was actively punting himself about for jobs.
How do you know he was rejected, were you there? The fact he was still under contract to Inter made his situation very complicated. I doubt many clubs could have afforded him then. Does him winning the Italian Cup with a side in administration and who hadn't been paid for months not impress you either? And Wenger's success was mostly in JAPAN.
Wonderwall wrote:CityFanFromRome wrote:Because Ancelotti is doing bad at Chelsea, right? I admire the Premiership a lot and think the best football is played in England, but I wouldn't be so sure it's easier to manage in Italy than in England. You guys have no idea what kind of pressure managers are under over here, from the fans and the press. If you think Hughes has it bad with fans calling for him being sacked for months, etc. you should see what happens on the papers to Mourinho every time Inter doesn't win a game, or what Juve fans and the press think of Ferrara right now, just to make two examples.The Original Special One wrote:avoidconfusion wrote:I was in the Hughes IN camp for a long time, then on the fence and recently leaned more towards the Hughes OUT camp.... but I feel bad for him now actually... maybe I shouldn't... but I heard the replacement is Mancini.... yea he won 4 Coppa Italias and 3 League titles in Italy.... but is he gonna do better than Hughes?
I hope so...
But what about the likes of Bellamy and RSC (and Tevez?) who worked their socks off for Hughes... I hope they will be professional and do the same for the next manager.
If Hughes is 'gone' and it is Mancini, then it could only be as an 'Avram Grant' because managing, and playing, in Italy is one thing, but managing in top-flight English football is a different matter entirely
ancelotti inherited a TOP CLASS european and english winning machine. How is Zola doing?
ross.mcfc wrote:Socrates wrote:ross.mcfc wrote:Socrates wrote:ross.mcfc wrote:
Could not have put it better myself. Hughes had his chance and didnt seize it. He can have no complaints. But his replacement, We are employing a guy who has whored himself about any job going and been knocked back by West Ham, Spurs (twice) and even put his cv in at Blackburn.
He has no trak record outside Italy, Never won a league title at Inter that was not handed to him in the courts or when the usual main rivals were dropped down to Seria B. Down nothing in the CL and was eventually replaces for that reason. Replaced by a manager who IS the type of calibre we should be aiming for.
Quarter final of Champions League is obviously way below the achievements of Mr Hughes, see your point. Inter were on the up already before the main rivals were punished and Manciniproved able to MAKE THE MOST OF THE OPPORTUNITY. Something Hughes has failed to do. He also won cups with both his other management jobs. How much Prem experience did Mourinho have before Chelsea or Wenger before Arsenal?
You mean Mourinho who won the CL with a 2nd tier side or Wenger who had won titles worldwide?
Why has he been rejected by several Premiership clubs? Why has he been out of a job for so long. The argumment about the pay off from Inter and not being able to manage elsewhere is not valid, It was a one year deal and meant he was on the pay role for the rest of his contract and it would have been canceled if he took another job in that time he was actively punting himself about for jobs.
How do you know he was rejected, were you there? The fact he was still under contract to Inter made his situation very complicated. I doubt many clubs could have afforded him then. Does him winning the Italian Cup with a side in administration and who hadn't been paid for months not impress you either? And Wenger's success was mostly in JAPAN.
He didnt get jobs he applied for. That means he was rejected. How do you know they could not afford him. Where YOU there?
The Italian cup means fuck all to the Italian big sides. Much like the League Cup means bugger all to our big clubs.
It didnt make the situation complicated at all. If he got a job he came off there payroll, and onto his new clubs. Nothing complicated about that at all
Socrates wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Socrates wrote:
look at the table...
HA HA HA HA
THEREFORE HUGHES MADE US BETTER
look at the table
Ancellotti made them better without spending money... Point is that mangers like Ancellotti and Mancini are capable of succeeding when given a golden egg. Hughes just stripped the egg down and painted it pink.
Wonderwall wrote:Socrates wrote:Wonderwall wrote:Socrates wrote:
look at the table...
HA HA HA HA
THEREFORE HUGHES MADE US BETTER
look at the table
Ancellotti made them better without spending money... Point is that mangers like Ancellotti and Mancini are capable of succeeding when given a golden egg. Hughes just stripped the egg down and painted it pink.
time will tell, however, if he goes on an unbeaten run by losing just once at home in a calendar year and only twice in a season and gets us to a cup semi final, he may find himself looking for a new job!!!
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