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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Sideshow Bob » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:56 pm

played well again. still hasn't found his top gear, however.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Tru_Blu » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:07 pm

Nice to see that the player is now settling into his position in the team. Sought of like buying that motorcycle and letting it break in before hitting the throttle to max out, this lad will come good.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby clawbaggio » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:10 pm

Thought he was outstanding v West Ham on Saturday but average tonight. Still a bit inconsistent for me for a 30 mill player
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:03 pm

clawbaggio wrote:Thought he was outstanding v West Ham on Saturday but average tonight. Still a bit inconsistent for me for a 30 mill player


I thought he was one of our better players tonight. These stats I came across didn't surprise me,

-Fernandinho made 6 successful tackles tonight, twice more than any of his team-mates

-On the passing side, it was Yaya again who made the most passes (83, 88% accuracy) with Fernandinho (70, 89% accuracy) coming in second.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Fidel Castro » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:10 am

I'm starting to warm to him. That Vidal lad from Juve though, THAT'S who we need in midfield
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Slim » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:15 am

Fidel Castro wrote:I'm starting to warm to him. That Vidal lad from Juve though, THAT'S who we need in midfield


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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:52 pm

He's playing well, but due to the role he's being asked to play we haven't really seen anything of him going forward or driving with the ball.
It seems like we're asking him to play a Dejong type game but if that's all we wanted him for, we may as well have resigned Dejong, who would have been cheaper and done the job better.

I'd never really seen him play before but I think it will be interesting to see how he'd do in a game without Yaya where he'd be allowed more freedom to attack.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:05 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He's playing well, but due to the role he's being asked to play we haven't really seen anything of him going forward or driving with the ball.
It seems like we're asking him to play a Dejong type game but if that's all we wanted him for, we may as well have resigned Dejong, who would have been cheaper and done the job better.

I'd never really seen him play before but I think it will be interesting to see how he'd do in a game without Yaya where he'd be allowed more freedom to attack.


It's nothing like a De Jong role. He doesn't sit in front of the defence shielding them, he's a lot more involved than that.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:08 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He's playing well, but due to the role he's being asked to play we haven't really seen anything of him going forward or driving with the ball.
It seems like we're asking him to play a Dejong type game but if that's all we wanted him for, we may as well have resigned Dejong, who would have been cheaper and done the job better.

I'd never really seen him play before but I think it will be interesting to see how he'd do in a game without Yaya where he'd be allowed more freedom to attack.


It's nothing like a De Jong role. He doesn't sit in front of the defence shielding them, he's a lot more involved than that.

As Dejong progressed he got better and better with the ball. He was no Xavi for sure but he started more and more to be involved and look to get play started. Look at our winning goal against QPR for example.
Kind of like what Fred is doing now.
I want to see Fred let off the hook in a game so we can see some of his attacking talents.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Sideshow Bob » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:20 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He's playing well, but due to the role he's being asked to play we haven't really seen anything of him going forward or driving with the ball.
It seems like we're asking him to play a Dejong type game but if that's all we wanted him for, we may as well have resigned Dejong, who would have been cheaper and done the job better.

I'd never really seen him play before but I think it will be interesting to see how he'd do in a game without Yaya where he'd be allowed more freedom to attack.


It's nothing like a De Jong role. He doesn't sit in front of the defence shielding them, he's a lot more involved than that.

As Dejong progressed he got better and better with the ball. He was no Xavi for sure but he started more and more to be involved and look to get play started. Look at our winning goal against QPR for example.
Kind of like what Fred is doing now.
I want to see Fred let off the hook in a game so we can see some of his attacking talents.


come on. de jong was/is good at certain things, but starting attacks was never one of them. go back and read the match threads. we all moaned about his sideways passes to the CBs.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:22 pm

Sideshow Bob wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He's playing well, but due to the role he's being asked to play we haven't really seen anything of him going forward or driving with the ball.
It seems like we're asking him to play a Dejong type game but if that's all we wanted him for, we may as well have resigned Dejong, who would have been cheaper and done the job better.

I'd never really seen him play before but I think it will be interesting to see how he'd do in a game without Yaya where he'd be allowed more freedom to attack.


It's nothing like a De Jong role. He doesn't sit in front of the defence shielding them, he's a lot more involved than that.

As Dejong progressed he got better and better with the ball. He was no Xavi for sure but he started more and more to be involved and look to get play started. Look at our winning goal against QPR for example.
Kind of like what Fred is doing now.
I want to see Fred let off the hook in a game so we can see some of his attacking talents.


come on. de jong was/is good at certain things, but starting attacks was never one of them. go back and read the match threads. we all moaned about his sideways passes to the CBs.

I'm just saying he got better at it. That's all.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby brite blu sky » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:32 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:He's playing well, but due to the role he's being asked to play we haven't really seen anything of him going forward or driving with the ball.
It seems like we're asking him to play a Dejong type game but if that's all we wanted him for, we may as well have resigned Dejong, who would have been cheaper and done the job better.

I'd never really seen him play before but I think it will be interesting to see how he'd do in a game without Yaya where he'd be allowed more freedom to attack.


Agree with some of this but not the DeJong bit.
My take is he has to accommodate Yaya, so depending on what Yaya is doing he has to work round it. Sometimes Yaya will make an effort to close off and defend a bit in a game, sometimes he doesn't and Ferdi has to stay behind him more. He looks ot me like he is settling into that role, however at times I think it literally leaves him in limbo. The more he gets to understand Yaya's play the more settled and effective Ferdi will be, I rekon.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby dazby » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:21 am

I think he's a cracking player. Their combination is coming along just nicely.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby zuricity » Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:07 am

It's strange Having rarely had the chance to see him before we signed him, it was impossible to really judge him. The first few games on summer pitches all players look fast. Now that we turn to the colder weather and pitches are naturally heavier, his fitness and swiftness seems to be telling. Most certainly in the last four or five games , we've seen some excellent tackling and play from him.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Alioune DVToure » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:42 am

dazby wrote:I think he's a cracking player. Their combination is coming along just nicely.


I agree with this. They get it now.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby avoidconfusion » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:52 am

Still cannot see why we paid this much for him.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Wonderwall » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:17 pm

avoidconfusion wrote:Still cannot see why we paid this much for him.


I presume its because they wouldn't let him leave for less?
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby bobby brows » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:34 pm

Haven't been a fan of Fernandinho immediatey. Thought there were some worrying signs defensively even in the Newcastle game.

I didn't see the West Ham game but I did each the CSKA game and he seemed notably more involved.

Here is hoping there is still more to come!
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby nottsblue » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:46 pm

Let us not forget he is in a new country with a different language and culture to what he is used to. Maybe him or family needed time to settle in. After all if your home life is in upheavel it will reflect in your work.

Agree he has not set Prem on fire yet but he will do. He has all attributes to be a top player and once things click for him he will be flying.
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Re: Drop Fernandinho

Postby Saul Goodman » Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:26 pm

I have no opinion on this guy. I'm not ashamed to admit that I have no idea what he should be doing. He's not Barry nor is he Pirlo. And as a result, I can't tell if he's shit in matches or class
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