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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby steveo_88 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:56 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
steveo_88 wrote:Will wait until the transfer window closes and Fernandinho has ten games under his belt before passing judgement on a 28 year old BRAZILIAN defensive midfielder. A De Rossi deal still looks better.

Please let us get this one though, he even looks good in sky blue!

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He is not a defensive midfielder.


Apologies that's what I heard he was off of the news. A holding player for central midfield.
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:01 am

steveo_88 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
steveo_88 wrote:Will wait until the transfer window closes and Fernandinho has ten games under his belt before passing judgement on a 28 year old BRAZILIAN defensive midfielder. A De Rossi deal still looks better.

Please let us get this one though, he even looks good in sky blue!

[youtube]dpe3yY6SIfY[/youtube]

[youtube]DVPQgrMorXo[/youtube]


He is not a defensive midfielder.


Apologies that's what I heard he was off of the news. A holding player for central midfield.


He is very good at closing down & winning possession, but he is very much a footballer who plays from deep rather than a Nige or a Gareth Barry. He is more similar to Yaya than either of those two. He usually had a Barry type player next to him for Shakhtar, who would cover when he went forward. I hope the plan isn't that we trust Yaya to do that.
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby steveo_88 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:18 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
steveo_88 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
steveo_88 wrote:Will wait until the transfer window closes and Fernandinho has ten games under his belt before passing judgement on a 28 year old BRAZILIAN defensive midfielder. A De Rossi deal still looks better.

Please let us get this one though, he even looks good in sky blue!

[youtube]dpe3yY6SIfY[/youtube]

[youtube]DVPQgrMorXo[/youtube]


He is not a defensive midfielder.

U
Apologies that's what I heard he was off of the news. A holding player for central midfield.


He is very good at closing down & winning possession, but he is very much a footballer who plays from deep rather than a Nige or a Gareth Barry. He is more similar to Yaya than either of those two. He usually had a Barry type player next to him for Shakhtar, who would cover when he went forward. I hope the plan isn't that we trust Yaya to do that.


Say we stick with the current formation and style of football we currently have, with a possible addition of speedy wingers. Rodwell, Fernandinho, Milner, Barry and Yaya certainly gives you options for two central midfielders behind the front three midfielders to flexibly let one guy go, one cover. Much harder to man mark if its not just Yaya making penetrative deep runs.

I personally prefer Silva in the hole because he's not a great goal scorer but maximises his talent as playmaker. With Sergio up top Tevez can drift in and cause havoc with those long range drives he loves with the tippy tappy inter play with Silva. Milner gives you width, good low crosses, shots and solid defensive cover down the wing. Two deep midfielders as mentioned above, but both have to work hard defensively or the defence gets left out to dry.

Eg five man midfield from existing squad (left tor right):

Tevez - Silva - Milner
Fernandinho - Yaya
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby steveo_88 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:50 am

The [highlight]defensive[/highlight] [highlight]midfielder[/highlight] brings a wealth of UEFA Champions League experience to Manchester with him. He has appeared in the competition with Shakhtar for the past eight seasons.


Ted, just found the HP of my earlier confusion regarding Fernandinho. Taken from the official site.
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:50 am

steveo_88 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
steveo_88 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
steveo_88 wrote:Will wait until the transfer window closes and Fernandinho has ten games under his belt before passing judgement on a 28 year old BRAZILIAN defensive midfielder. A De Rossi deal still looks better.

Please let us get this one though, he even looks good in sky blue!

[youtube]dpe3yY6SIfY[/youtube]

[youtube]DVPQgrMorXo[/youtube]


He is not a defensive midfielder.

U
Apologies that's what I heard he was off of the news. A holding player for central midfield.


He is very good at closing down & winning possession, but he is very much a footballer who plays from deep rather than a Nige or a Gareth Barry. He is more similar to Yaya than either of those two. He usually had a Barry type player next to him for Shakhtar, who would cover when he went forward. I hope the plan isn't that we trust Yaya to do that.


Say we stick with the current formation and style of football we currently have, with a possible addition of speedy wingers. Rodwell, Fernandinho, Milner, Barry and Yaya certainly gives you options for two central midfielders behind the front three midfielders to flexibly let one guy go, one cover. Much harder to man mark if its not just Yaya making penetrative deep runs.

I personally prefer Silva in the hole because he's not a great goal scorer but maximises his talent as playmaker. With Sergio up top Tevez can drift in and cause havoc with those long range drives he loves with the tippy tappy inter play with Silva. Milner gives you width, good low crosses, shots and solid defensive cover down the wing. Two deep midfielders as mentioned above, but both have to work hard defensively or the defence gets left out to dry.

Eg five man midfield from existing squad (left tor right):

Tevez - Silva - Milner
Fernandinho - Yaya


I'm intrigued as to how Pelle will line up City. But if Isco signs, he'll be signing with the manager's word that he's not going to spend half his time on the bench imo.

Pelle usually likes two strikers but the players we have, & those we are linked with, suggests to me that we may often see 1 up front.

Of course that would then become very unlikely if we signed Cavani.

I must confess to having no idea how the fuck he is going to line it up! The options, particularly if we sign Isco, are fantastic though.

We could have a full on Barca style midfield or a full on grafter midfield made from any combination of Barry, Milner, Rodwell, Fernandinho & Yaya further forward. No need to be outrun by Dortmund next season.
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:32 am

steveo_88 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
steveo_88 wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
steveo_88 wrote:Will wait until the transfer window closes and Fernandinho has ten games under his belt before passing judgement on a 28 year old BRAZILIAN defensive midfielder. A De Rossi deal still looks better.

Please let us get this one though, he even looks good in sky blue!

[youtube]dpe3yY6SIfY[/youtube]

[youtube]DVPQgrMorXo[/youtube]


He is not a defensive midfielder.

U
Apologies that's what I heard he was off of the news. A holding player for central midfield.


He is very good at closing down & winning possession, but he is very much a footballer who plays from deep rather than a Nige or a Gareth Barry. He is more similar to Yaya than either of those two. He usually had a Barry type player next to him for Shakhtar, who would cover when he went forward. I hope the plan isn't that we trust Yaya to do that.


Say we stick with the current formation and style of football we currently have, with a possible addition of speedy wingers. Rodwell, Fernandinho, Milner, Barry and Yaya certainly gives you options for two central midfielders behind the front three midfielders to flexibly let one guy go, one cover. Much harder to man mark if its not just Yaya making penetrative deep runs.

I personally prefer Silva in the hole because he's not a great goal scorer but maximises his talent as playmaker. With Sergio up top Tevez can drift in and cause havoc with those long range drives he loves with the tippy tappy inter play with Silva. Milner gives you width, good low crosses, shots and solid defensive cover down the wing. Two deep midfielders as mentioned above, but both have to work hard defensively or the defence gets left out to dry.

Eg five man midfield from existing squad (left tor right):

Tevez - Silva - Milner
Fernandinho - Yaya


Silva in the hole you say?
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby DoomMerchant » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:46 pm

Already jesus can't get a game. Why did we buy him?
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Dunne's Half-Time Pint » Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:51 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:Already jesus can't get a game. Why did we buy him?


Are you cross about it?

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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby DoomMerchant » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:20 pm

Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
Are you cross about it?

(Tell me if we've done this already and I'll do something else).


Have you seen Memento?

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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Cit.revenge » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:55 am

Edin Dzeko staying at Manchester City as new boss Manuel Pellegrini assesses striker options


Dzeko set to stay at the Etihad as new boss Pellegrini looks to enter talks with Bosnian striker
Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini
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Edin Dzeko is set to be handed a lifeline by new Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini.

The £27million Bosnian striker seemed certain to depart the Etihad this summer after falling out of favour with Roberto Mancini last season.

But Pellegrini has told the club that he believes Dzeko can have a future at City. The 59-year-old is planning talks with the 6ft 4ins striker once he has been officially ­unveiled as Mancini’s successor this week.

And, if Dzeko indicates that he is ready to fight for his place, the Chilean will keep him at the club.

Dzeko did himself no favours last season with constant sulks, but his record of 40 goals in 109 games is impressive given that 47 of his appearances have been as a sub.

Pellegrini’s stance on Dzeko has led to City’s ­interest in Edinson ­Cavani cooling in recent days.
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby aaron bond » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:56 am

Cit.revenge wrote:Edin Dzeko staying at Manchester City as new boss Manuel Pellegrini assesses striker options


Dzeko set to stay at the Etihad as new boss Pellegrini looks to enter talks with Bosnian striker
Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini
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Edin Dzeko is set to be handed a lifeline by new Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini.

The £27million Bosnian striker seemed certain to depart the Etihad this summer after falling out of favour with Roberto Mancini last season.

But Pellegrini has told the club that he believes Dzeko can have a future at City. The 59-year-old is planning talks with the 6ft 4ins striker once he has been officially ­unveiled as Mancini’s successor this week.

And, if Dzeko indicates that he is ready to fight for his place, the Chilean will keep him at the club.

Dzeko did himself no favours last season with constant sulks, but his record of 40 goals in 109 games is impressive given that 47 of his appearances have been as a sub.

Pellegrini’s stance on Dzeko has led to City’s ­interest in Edinson ­Cavani cooling in recent days.


Thanks for that. Good, hard evidence there that Pellegrini wants Dzeko to stay.

I'm not saying that the situation won't happen, but it's a crap article. You may as well have just written that yourself.
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Socrates » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:39 am

aaron bond wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:Edin Dzeko staying at Manchester City as new boss Manuel Pellegrini assesses striker options


Dzeko set to stay at the Etihad as new boss Pellegrini looks to enter talks with Bosnian striker
Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini
Getty

Edin Dzeko is set to be handed a lifeline by new Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini.

The £27million Bosnian striker seemed certain to depart the Etihad this summer after falling out of favour with Roberto Mancini last season.

But Pellegrini has told the club that he believes Dzeko can have a future at City. The 59-year-old is planning talks with the 6ft 4ins striker once he has been officially ­unveiled as Mancini’s successor this week.

And, if Dzeko indicates that he is ready to fight for his place, the Chilean will keep him at the club.

Dzeko did himself no favours last season with constant sulks, but his record of 40 goals in 109 games is impressive given that 47 of his appearances have been as a sub.

Pellegrini’s stance on Dzeko has led to City’s ­interest in Edinson ­Cavani cooling in recent days.


Thanks for that. Good, hard evidence there that Pellegrini wants Dzeko to stay.

I'm not saying that the situation won't happen, but it's a crap article. You may as well have just written that yourself.


Having read his other posts you would think not likely.
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby guv111 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:02 am

I hope he does stay, as re-energising a proven goalscorer is less problematical than bedding in a new signing.

But his situation last season typifies in a nutshell the peculiarities of Roberto Mancini, especially his man management and strange use of tactics. Only he could buy a 6' 4" striker and play him in a team without wingers.
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Socrates » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:28 am

guv111 wrote:I hope he does stay, as re-energising a proven goalscorer is less problematical than bedding in a new signing.

But his situation last season typifies in a nutshell the peculiarities of Roberto Mancini, especially his man management and strange use of tactics. Only he could buy a 6' 4" striker and play him in a team without wingers.


because overlapping full backs can't provide crosses and if we play with wing backs people might die...
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Cit.revenge » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:43 am

aaron bond wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:Edin Dzeko staying at Manchester City as new boss Manuel Pellegrini assesses striker options


Dzeko set to stay at the Etihad as new boss Pellegrini looks to enter talks with Bosnian striker
Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini
Getty

Edin Dzeko is set to be handed a lifeline by new Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini.

The £27million Bosnian striker seemed certain to depart the Etihad this summer after falling out of favour with Roberto Mancini last season.

But Pellegrini has told the club that he believes Dzeko can have a future at City. The 59-year-old is planning talks with the 6ft 4ins striker once he has been officially ­unveiled as Mancini’s successor this week.

And, if Dzeko indicates that he is ready to fight for his place, the Chilean will keep him at the club.

Dzeko did himself no favours last season with constant sulks, but his record of 40 goals in 109 games is impressive given that 47 of his appearances have been as a sub.

Pellegrini’s stance on Dzeko has led to City’s ­interest in Edinson ­Cavani cooling in recent days.


Thanks for that. Good, hard evidence there that Pellegrini wants Dzeko to stay.

I'm not saying that the situation won't happen, but it's a crap article. You may as well have just written that yourself.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ty-1940862
I translated from one of our site as u accuse me that I'm making this up here is the genuine article.
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Socrates » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:46 am

Cit.revenge wrote:
aaron bond wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:Edin Dzeko staying at Manchester City as new boss Manuel Pellegrini assesses striker options


Dzeko set to stay at the Etihad as new boss Pellegrini looks to enter talks with Bosnian striker
Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini
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Edin Dzeko is set to be handed a lifeline by new Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini.

The £27million Bosnian striker seemed certain to depart the Etihad this summer after falling out of favour with Roberto Mancini last season.

But Pellegrini has told the club that he believes Dzeko can have a future at City. The 59-year-old is planning talks with the 6ft 4ins striker once he has been officially ­unveiled as Mancini’s successor this week.

And, if Dzeko indicates that he is ready to fight for his place, the Chilean will keep him at the club.

Dzeko did himself no favours last season with constant sulks, but his record of 40 goals in 109 games is impressive given that 47 of his appearances have been as a sub.

Pellegrini’s stance on Dzeko has led to City’s ­interest in Edinson ­Cavani cooling in recent days.


Thanks for that. Good, hard evidence there that Pellegrini wants Dzeko to stay.

I'm not saying that the situation won't happen, but it's a crap article. You may as well have just written that yourself.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ty-1940862
I translated from one of our site as u accuse me that I'm making this up here is the genuine article.


He didn't accuse you of making it up, he meant that you might as well have as the piece is merely speculation.
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Cit.revenge » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:47 am

Socrates wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:
aaron bond wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:Edin Dzeko staying at Manchester City as new boss Manuel Pellegrini assesses striker options


Dzeko set to stay at the Etihad as new boss Pellegrini looks to enter talks with Bosnian striker
Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini
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Edin Dzeko is set to be handed a lifeline by new Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini.

The £27million Bosnian striker seemed certain to depart the Etihad this summer after falling out of favour with Roberto Mancini last season.

But Pellegrini has told the club that he believes Dzeko can have a future at City. The 59-year-old is planning talks with the 6ft 4ins striker once he has been officially ­unveiled as Mancini’s successor this week.

And, if Dzeko indicates that he is ready to fight for his place, the Chilean will keep him at the club.

Dzeko did himself no favours last season with constant sulks, but his record of 40 goals in 109 games is impressive given that 47 of his appearances have been as a sub.

Pellegrini’s stance on Dzeko has led to City’s ­interest in Edinson ­Cavani cooling in recent days.


Thanks for that. Good, hard evidence there that Pellegrini wants Dzeko to stay.

I'm not saying that the situation won't happen, but it's a crap article. You may as well have just written that yourself.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ty-1940862
I translated from one of our site as u accuse me that I'm making this up here is the genuine article.


He didn't accuse you of making it up, he meant that you might as well have as the piece is merely speculation.

Oh then sorry my bad :)
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Socrates » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:48 am

Cit.revenge wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:
aaron bond wrote:
Cit.revenge wrote:Edin Dzeko staying at Manchester City as new boss Manuel Pellegrini assesses striker options


Dzeko set to stay at the Etihad as new boss Pellegrini looks to enter talks with Bosnian striker
Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini Not Edin anywhere: Dzeko has a future at City according to new boss Pellegrini
Getty

Edin Dzeko is set to be handed a lifeline by new Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini.

The £27million Bosnian striker seemed certain to depart the Etihad this summer after falling out of favour with Roberto Mancini last season.

But Pellegrini has told the club that he believes Dzeko can have a future at City. The 59-year-old is planning talks with the 6ft 4ins striker once he has been officially ­unveiled as Mancini’s successor this week.

And, if Dzeko indicates that he is ready to fight for his place, the Chilean will keep him at the club.

Dzeko did himself no favours last season with constant sulks, but his record of 40 goals in 109 games is impressive given that 47 of his appearances have been as a sub.

Pellegrini’s stance on Dzeko has led to City’s ­interest in Edinson ­Cavani cooling in recent days.


Thanks for that. Good, hard evidence there that Pellegrini wants Dzeko to stay.

I'm not saying that the situation won't happen, but it's a crap article. You may as well have just written that yourself.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ty-1940862
I translated from one of our site as u accuse me that I'm making this up here is the genuine article.


He didn't accuse you of making it up, he meant that you might as well have as the piece is merely speculation.

Oh then sorry my bad :)


lost in translation :)
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby Cit.revenge » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:55 am

ooooo do not talk to me about that movie I tried to watch it to the end,I broke up somewhere half way in total boredom :)
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Re: napoli - Edin and Cavani

Postby guv111 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:18 am

Socrates wrote:
guv111 wrote:I hope he does stay, as re-energising a proven goalscorer is less problematical than bedding in a new signing.

But his situation last season typifies in a nutshell the peculiarities of Roberto Mancini, especially his man management and strange use of tactics. Only he could buy a 6' 4" striker and play him in a team without wingers.


because overlapping full backs can't provide crosses and if we play with wing backs people might die...


Who needs these newfangled overlapping full backs and and wing backs when it's much more of a challenge to tippy-tappy around on the edge of the penalty area?
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