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Postby Green & Blue » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:40 pm

Pretty poor if you ask me.Where is that urgency and drive to make things happen gone? Yaya is not bothered at all, Barry is even getting around the pitch quicker.We are sorely lacking any spark if Silva is not on form pulling the strings.Nasri really needs to start making a telling contribution to the side.Even when he looked poor last season he was at least registering a few assists.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby FA cup winners 2006 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:50 pm

Green & Blue wrote:Pretty poor if you ask me.Where is that urgency and drive to make things happen gone? Yaya is not bothered at all, Barry is even getting around the pitch quicker.We are sorely lacking any spark if Silva is not on form pulling the strings.Nasri really needs to start making a telling contribution to the side.Even when he looked poor last season he was at least registering a few assists.


It goes alot bigger than the midfield for me, whenever silva or nasri pick up the ball there is no movement ahead of them, we need forwards to pull defenders out of the way, we need midfielders mking both early and late runs forward into the box, we need wide players actually getting in behind not running to a certain point and then just stopping waiting for the ball. We cant just expect to turn up and slowly break through the middle without some sort of plan
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby SmallTimeCharlie » Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:48 pm

Neither of our best 2 strikers enjoy playing with Dzeko. They know he's a decent striker, but their heads go down as soon as they realise who's on the teamsheet, because they know he won't be on the same wavelength. This then spreads through the whole team. This attitude was obvious from the off today, as Everton started way better than us. Good job Kompany is back to his near best.
If Aguero & Tevez are both fit, they should start. Aguero, Tevez, Silva & Nasri, with Yaya supporting, is a joy to behold, and you can tell they enjoy their football when this is the combo. Stick Dzeko in there and it all falls ti shit. We know it, they know it. You want the best players available playing with you.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Mase » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:40 pm

Since Nasri has been here he's probably had about 3 very good games.

When we signed him I was over the moon as well. I could care less now if we got rid.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Green & Blue » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:03 pm

SmallTimeCharlie wrote:Neither of our best 2 strikers enjoy playing with Dzeko. They know he's a decent striker, but their heads go down as soon as they realise who's on the teamsheet, because they know he won't be on the same wavelength. This then spreads through the whole team. This attitude was obvious from the off today, as Everton started way better than us. Good job Kompany is back to his near best.
If Aguero & Tevez are both fit, they should start. Aguero, Tevez, Silva & Nasri, with Yaya supporting, is a joy to behold, and you can tell they enjoy their football when this is the combo. Stick Dzeko in there and it all falls ti shit. We know it, they know it. You want the best players available playing with you.
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I know where your coming from with Dzeko it just does not happen for him.I dread seeing his name is in the first eleven.I don't know why its a strange one but he always contributes far better impacting off the bench, you always feel he can come on and have a telling impact.I do feel he played his way into deserving to be started but it does not feel right when its at expense of Aguero or Tevez.I just believe they should be auto starters in bigger games.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby dazby » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:51 pm

I thought the Lesbian had a good game actually. He created a bit and worked really hard.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby phips » Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:53 am

well, one of our biggest midfield issues in my opinion is with Yaya and Barry.
why Yaya is the deeper of the two i will never understand. Barry's passing is debatable, his goal scoring record
is absurd, he's not quick enough to go forward and then get back, and he is not at all creative. the fact that
for the last couple of games he's been the more forward of the barry-yaya pairing is ridiculous. putting
all barry's deficiencies aside, yaya is clearly the better player and excels when he is forward..and barry
is better at sitting right in front of the central defense. i just don't get why Barry is the more advanced one
and for fuck's sake, he's even taken some corners.

he needs to be told not to go into the opponent's 18-yard box unless it's a set piece
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:09 am

phips wrote:well, one of our biggest midfield issues in my opinion is with Yaya and Barry.
why Yaya is the deeper of the two i will never understand. Barry's passing is debatable, his goal scoring record
is absurd, he's not quick enough to go forward and then get back, and he is not at all creative. the fact that
for the last couple of games he's been the more forward of the barry-yaya pairing is ridiculous. putting
all barry's deficiencies aside, yaya is clearly the better player and excels when he is forward..and barry
is better at sitting right in front of the central defense. i just don't get why Barry is the more advanced one
and for fuck's sake, he's even taken some corners.

he needs to be told not to go into the opponent's 18-yard box unless it's a set piece


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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby london blue 2 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:05 am

It looks like yaya is the only one in the team allowed to what ever the fuck he likes.

Bobby need to go back to being the boss. All this chopping and changing to keep players happy is disrupting the squad. It's no surprise that we won every game at the end of last season playing the same team week in week out. We need to get back to starting the best team every game in the PL
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Green & Blue » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:30 am

london blue 2 wrote:It looks like yaya is the only one in the team allowed to what ever the fuck he likes.

Bobby need to go back to being the boss. All this chopping and changing to keep players happy is disrupting the squad. It's no surprise that we won every game at the end of last season playing the same team week in week out. We need to get back to starting the best team every game in the PL


Unfortunately at the moment Yaya is lacking the same drive he provided last season.It' so frustrating when you know what he is capable of and he is not playing anywhere near the standard you expect from him.He looks so lethargic and constantly slows the pace of our game down.He usually thrives on the big occasions so i really hope he can get it together for the derby as we can't afford to carry any passengers against the rags.

All Bobbys chopping and changing could be justified while playing in the champions league but i would expect him to start playing a more consistent line up now in the league.I'm all for seeing a settled line up but i do wonder sometimes if Bobby even knows his best line up.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby City64 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:32 am

A cheeky bid for Real Madrid,s Mezhut Ozil wouldnt go amiss right now for me ! He doesnt seem a regular in Mourinho,s plans for some strange reason , dynamic midfielder with class , energy and goals ........ Ozil would be the ideal signing right now for MCFC imho.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Dronny » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:44 am

City64 wrote:A cheeky bid for Real Madrid,s Mezhut Ozil wouldnt go amiss right now for me ! He doesnt seem a regular in Mourinho,s plans for some strange reason , dynamic midfielder with class , energy and goals ........ Ozil would be the ideal signing right now for MCFC imho.


I'd like to see the fish (as my kids call him) at City, as you say it's baffling why Maureen isnt picking him. He really pulls the strings for RM and is the link like DS is for us
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Twobob » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:53 am

If you had just landed on earth and was asked who the top international, ex-Barca player who earnt around 200k a week was and you had to choose between Fellaini or Yaya yesterday - Fellaini owned Yaya!
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:54 am

City64 wrote:A cheeky bid for Real Madrid,s Mezhut Ozil wouldnt go amiss right now for me ! He doesnt seem a regular in Mourinho,s plans for some strange reason , dynamic midfielder with class , energy and goals ........ Ozil would be the ideal signing right now for MCFC imho.


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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby dick dastardley » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:18 am

Nasri and silva in the same team doesnt work, rather have silva and replace nasri for sinclair (if milners not fit) dzeko thrives with crosses into the box we dont do that when he plays.
Also i wish we still had dejong so we could free up yaya to burst forward. We look lacklustre in midfield this season.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby stevefromdonny » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:44 am

we need to move the ball a hell lot faster, this passing to each other near the halfway line is so fucking boring, it might look good that we have x amount of passes, but it aint so good when more the half of them are in our own half,and if we are to play edin we need a winger to put balls in for him to attack. also why wont we shoot from outside the area, ffs or this passing around the 18 yd area and still not shooting is getting on my tits. tbh we need to up pace as fast as we can, it took us about 15 passes to get from our half to pen box, but everton took 4 passes from there pen box to ours. all this passing is letting other teams get back in numbers and we carnt find a way through
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Hazy2 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:04 pm

For me the fact is YaYa needs a lead on him De Jong maybe had the upper hand as he would have filled him in for his I'm off on one. Barry for me works his bollocks off as his oppo lacks discipline. Fellaini, sign him his all round game, leadership and relaitionship with Vinny is a no brainer plus threat from set pieces.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:11 pm

dazby wrote:I thought the Lesbian had a good game actually. He created a bit and worked really hard.


Nasri put a great shift in & did ok. No worse than anyone else.

None of our attacking players are playing even close to their best. It needs Mancini to either sort it, or if it's not sortable, ie they can't play together consistantly, sell some of them & replace them with inspired signings & failing either of those two outcomes; go himself & let somebody else see if they can sort it.

There is no way such a set of players should be so lacking in ideas after playing together for this length of time. If not for Dzeko's goals as a desperate last throw of the dice, we would be nowhere. It isn't working.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Green & Blue » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:47 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
dazby wrote:I thought the Lesbian had a good game actually. He created a bit and worked really hard.


Nasri put a great shift in & did ok. No worse than anyone else.

None of our attacking players are playing even close to their best. It needs Mancini to either sort it, or if it's not sortable, ie they can't play together consistantly, sell some of them & replace them with inspired signings & failing either of those two outcomes; go himself & let somebody else see if they can sort it.

There is no way such a set of players should be so lacking in ideas after playing together for this length of time. If not for Dzeko's goals as a desperate last throw of the dice, we would be nowhere. It isn't working.


I agree with your sentiments.We certainly have a very good collection of midfield players it's really a question of why they are not performing as a collective.

The same players have clicked and worked very well in the past so why are they now looking so lacking in ideas.Surely with time you would expect they should be improving as a team not going backwards.

Hopefully it's something that can be worked out but at present the players are underperforming.I would love to have a solution but at present i am at loss as to why they are underperforming.
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Re: Mind numbing midfield

Postby Hazy2 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:47 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
dazby wrote:I thought the Lesbian had a good game actually. He created a bit and worked really hard.


Nasri put a great shift in & did ok. No worse than anyone else.

None of our attacking players are playing even close to their best. It needs Mancini to either sort it, or if it's not sortable, ie they can't play together consistantly, sell some of them & replace them with inspired signings & failing either of those two outcomes; go himself & let somebody else see if they can sort it.

There is no way such a set of players should be so lacking in ideas after playing together for this length of time. If not for Dzeko's goals as a desperate last throw of the dice, we would be nowhere. It isn't working.


Not sure Nari was anything but OK, seems along with Silva being forced out wide, like to see Silva as the conductor, he will not finish his dinner but needs to be on the final pass, Edin hardly helped as he loses the ball for fun, which is a criminal. Maicon looks the only spark out wide, but as we turn over possesion we look wide open. We do lack width and variety.
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