Beefymcfc wrote:bluemoon wrote:On the evidence so far this season, the signs don't look too great and I can see why certain peeps want him out, however it's far too early to judge where this team will end up by the end of this season.
Granted neither the management or players have exactly done themseleves many favours in recent games. it's still worth taking into consideration that this is a squad of full players that haven't actually played that many competitive games together, and the issues with inconsistent team selection through injuries and suspensions would be a major hinderance to any manager in such circumstances. I'm not trying to make excuses for Hughes in any way, but I think it's only fair that we should evaluate his and the teams performances over the next few weeks before making judgements.
We're still very much in touching distance of the top 4 positions and while we're there or thereabouts we should show a little patience and get behind the team as I'm sure that ultimately we all want is success for Manchester City. Only time will tell whether Hughes is the right man for the job and one thing for sure is that he can't have any excuses should he fail giving the backing he's received.
Wisdom does that man have!
Yes, it was a good post, but for how long are we going to continue trotting out the "It takes time to blend these players in" argument.
Of the defense that fucked up yet again yesterday, 1 player, yes 1 player has been here for a few months, the rest have been here 11 months or longer and still can't comprehend the meaning of defending as a unit - hence, the only conclusion you can draw is that they are not being drilled correctly off the field, which ultimately is the manager's responsibility.
There are positives out there, that we are hard to beat, that we have shown resilience in coming from behind so often, but these positives seem hollow when in many of the games, had we bothered to play in the first half, we most likely wouldnt have been behind in the first place. Sending a team out who dont want to compete until they fall behind - again is ultimately the manager's responsibility.
Defensively we have replaced Dunne's mistakes with one of the Premier League's most consistent performers in Lescott and turned him into a trembling wreck. Same with Barry, these players do not turn from commanding club captains to turning in consistent shite week after week without something being fundamentally wrong.
We have possibly the most talented bunch of midfielders in the world to chose from, but ALL - ALL of them are out of form maybe with the exception of Petrov who cant get a game. Well how the fuck do you have all of your players out of form at the same time. Granted shit like that can happen, but we have a midfield AND defence that are all bang out of form at the same time, and I dont buy that this is a coincidence, they dont know what their role is, and if they play shite which the likes of Barry, SWP have been for weeks, Hughes doesnt appear to have the balls or is too stubborn to replace them, because his pride wont let him admit that the players he has brought into the club are failing to fit in with his plans.
Up front, we seem ok, but if we have to score 3/4 goals to win a game, and dont bother attacking until we go behind, its all seems a bit fucking pointless.
These are the reasons why lots of us feel there is little point continuing with him, and I can categorically say that his "history is not one of them. When he eventually wins a cup, which I believe he is entirely capable of, all those who say we should stick with him at times like this will be giving themselves a big pat on the back with a cosy warm feeling that they were right all along - but like Rafa, I will bet my fucking house on him never winning the league, and that is when the recognition has to come that we need a manager who is equipped with the experience to face those challenges as it is clear from our owners that this is the direction they want to move the club in.
