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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby DoomMerchant » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:16 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:give em guidetti, suarez and razak on season long loans (if that's allowed) plus a couple of million...


that's actually not a bad shout!
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby BmoreBlue » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:24 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:give em guidetti, suarez and razak on season long loans (if that's allowed) plus a couple of million...


PL clubs can take on a maximum of two players from other PL clubs, so we could only send them two out of the three, assuming they haven't signed anyone on loan from a different PL club. but i like the concept.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby ashton287 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:00 pm

Drop guidetti from the list then seen as he has some kind of super virus that stops him playing football for months.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Green & Blue » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:04 pm

Not sure why some are not that happy with the prospect of signing Sinclair.I have been really impressed with him at Swansea.
His pace is a serious weapon and pace is something we lack so i think he will give us a different dimension.Lets be realistic he is hardly being signed to walk straight in to the side.I don't see him starting regularly by any means but could see him being very effective off the bench, bring him on to run at tired defenders and he will cause all sorts of problems.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:43 pm

Green & Blue wrote:Not sure why some are not that happy with the prospect of signing Sinclair.I have been really impressed with him at Swansea.
His pace is a serious weapon and pace is something we lack so i think he will give us a different dimension.Lets be realistic he is hardly being signed to walk straight in to the side.I don't see him starting regularly by any means but could see him being very effective off the bench, bring him on to run at tired defenders and he will cause all sorts of problems.


That lad who is just as quick & miles, miles better has just been transferred on the cheap. Can't believe Marwood wasn't quick enough to snap him up... what a wanker to miss this one.

It's obvious he is just the player we need for variety; can play wide either side, through the middle, scores goals. Cost fuck all.

Bellamy I think his name was.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby AG7 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:04 pm

Green & Blue wrote:Not sure why some are not that happy with the prospect of signing Sinclair.I have been really impressed with him at Swansea.
His pace is a serious weapon and pace is something we lack so i think he will give us a different dimension.Lets be realistic he is hardly being signed to walk straight in to the side.I don't see him starting regularly by any means but could see him being very effective off the bench, bring him on to run at tired defenders and he will cause all sorts of problems.


He sure does add a different dimension to the squad ... his pace is decent, something we lack and he could finally become someone that can serve good crosses in to Dzeko ... plus he is young and ain't costing too much so what's not to like? He will also improve amongst our better than Swansea players ...
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Green & Blue » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:26 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Green & Blue wrote:Not sure why some are not that happy with the prospect of signing Sinclair.I have been really impressed with him at Swansea.
His pace is a serious weapon and pace is something we lack so i think he will give us a different dimension.Lets be realistic he is hardly being signed to walk straight in to the side.I don't see him starting regularly by any means but could see him being very effective off the bench, bring him on to run at tired defenders and he will cause all sorts of problems.


That lad who is just as quick & miles, miles better has just been transferred on the cheap. Can't believe Marwood wasn't quick enough to snap him up... what a wanker to miss this one.

It's obvious he is just the player we need for variety; can play wide either side, through the middle, scores goals. Cost fuck all.

Bellamy I think his name was.


Come off it.Great player and still performing quite well but close to finished at this stage and Sinclair has an easy 10 years on him.I personally would loved to have had him at city a little longer than we had him as he gave everything but certainly not now at this stage.I think the move back to Cardiff again will be great for him it's what he wants and i hope he helps them push for promotion.

David Hoilett would have been my own preference i really think we missed out on that one but Sinclair is certainly an exciting young player and i firmly believe he can offer us something different if he joins.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Esky » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:49 pm

Should've gone for Hoilett before he went to QPR. Free transfer, better player, same role.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby aaron bond » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:55 am

Green & Blue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Green & Blue wrote:Not sure why some are not that happy with the prospect of signing Sinclair.I have been really impressed with him at Swansea.
His pace is a serious weapon and pace is something we lack so i think he will give us a different dimension.Lets be realistic he is hardly being signed to walk straight in to the side.I don't see him starting regularly by any means but could see him being very effective off the bench, bring him on to run at tired defenders and he will cause all sorts of problems.


That lad who is just as quick & miles, miles better has just been transferred on the cheap. Can't believe Marwood wasn't quick enough to snap him up... what a wanker to miss this one.

It's obvious he is just the player we need for variety; can play wide either side, through the middle, scores goals. Cost fuck all.

Bellamy I think his name was.


Come off it.Great player and still performing quite well but close to finished at this stage and Sinclair has an easy 10 years on him.I personally would loved to have had him at city a little longer than we had him as he gave everything but certainly not now at this stage.I think the move back to Cardiff again will be great for him it's what he wants and i hope he helps them push for promotion.

David Hoilett would have been my own preference i really think we missed out on that one but Sinclair is certainly an exciting young player and i firmly believe he can offer us something different if he joins.


I agree with what you have written there. Bellamy probably played the best football of his career for us. I wasn't keen on us signing him before he joined, especially as we paid well over the top for him, but his pace frightened other teams and he always worked his socks off. I would have kept him on a bit longer than Mancini did but I wouldn't have him back now. He's clearly wanted to play for Cardiff for a while now so it's a great move for him.

I would like to have seen us take a chance on Hoilett. He always impressed me when he played for Blackburn. Obviously it's a big step up to come to City, but considering he was out of contract at Blackburn, I think it would have been a chance worth taking.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby kinkylola » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:07 am

Crossie wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:If Scott Sinclair turns out to be brilliant for us, I will be pleasently surprised & take my hat off to Bob for spotting something I haven't.

If he turns out to be shite, I will pretend Brian Marwood forced Mancini to sign him & think he's a right wanker for not getting him off the wage bill quick enough.

If this is true, I'll be shocked but trust Bob. It wouldn't be amongst my top 50 signings though.

Home grown quota maybe ?



Me too, he was a Chelsea youth product and didnt make it for them, that in theory means he won't be good enough for us, but you never know. For 5.5 mill imo its worth a try.


I don't think we really know the details of the sinclair move away from Chelsea ... but chelsea have not been known for blooding youth players in their recent history. As I recall he was pretty highly rated coming out of their academy, but got 0 game time (why? i don't know).

I think Sinclair has the fundamentals that we are looking for. He has pace, he's got trickery, and can assist/finish fairly well. I do think his pace/accel are top notch, and I believe that he can improve the other areas of his game (which I wouldn't rate as poor to begin with).

Depending on the price, I think he is definitely worth a shout, and none of us knows how Bob would want to use him, but I want to give him a shot. After all, if we're assuming that Silva/Nasri are our favored AMR/L at the moment, and we have only johnson as back up to that ... don't we need another? And young english talent at the right price would be a good thing for us I think.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Slim » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:39 am

I know we all want to sign Messi, and Sinclair is not quite as good as Messi. But not every transfer can be break the bank spectacular and some times you have to look for aspects that we need with a good all around skillset to back them up. I think Sinclair fits the bill and as someone said, he has pace which outside of Aguero and that freight train in midield we don't really have.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:49 am

Slim wrote:I know we all want to sign Messi, and Sinclair is not quite as good as Messi. But not every transfer can be break the bank spectacular and some times you have to look for aspects that we need with a good all around skillset to back them up. I think Sinclair fits the bill and as someone said, he has pace which outside of Aguero and that freight train in midield we don't really have.


Is Sinclair the best available player in the world with those attributes though ?

I can only assume it's a quota thing.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:51 am

Slim wrote:I know we all want to sign Messi, and Sinclair is not quite as good as Messi. But not every transfer can be break the bank spectacular and some times you have to look for aspects that we need with a good all around skillset to back them up. I think Sinclair fits the bill and as someone said, he has pace which outside of Aguero and that freight train in midield we don't really have.

Dead-on there mate. Near enough everybody associated with Man City have been banging on that we need a Plan B and that's what a player like Sinclair is. He's not there to take over Sergio/Dave/Yaya's role but there as a back-up plan against different types of teams, teams that we couldn't break down last season. He's fairly cheap, he's still young and if Mancini sees something in him then I'm all up for that, especially as I seen the same thing many moons ago.

For me it's a no-brainer and if Mancini could bring out the best in SInclair we'll have a player who will flourish in our squad.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Mase » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:54 am

To the people still mentioning Jr Hoilett; have you actually seen him play more than a handful of times and not on match of the day?

As I've said previously my mates a season ticket holder at Rovers and when he's got a spare I sometimes go up with him if City aren't at home on the same day.

The kid is average at best! Greedy, runs in to blind alleys, and is definitely not a team player. The kid Moses is better from what I've seen.

Its kind of like how fans of other teams go on about AJ being quality. "I can't believe Johnson doesn't start every week. He's amazing! Mancini is holding him back" When really they've only seen him on match of the day skin someone and put it in the bottom corner from outside the box. So they haven't seen him lose it 8 times on the half way line by pissing about with the ball leading to an opposition attack. They haven't seen him not track back or get stuck in.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby avoidconfusion » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:56 am

Surely we could have just kept Weiss?
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:01 am

avoidconfusion wrote:Surely we could have just kept Weiss?

Weiss or AJ?
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Fidel Castro » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:10 am

avoidconfusion wrote:Surely we could have just kept Weiss?


Sinclair looked like a solid Prem League player with potential. Weiss looked poor, even in Scotland.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby aaron bond » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:21 am

Mase wrote:To the people still mentioning Jr Hoilett; have you actually seen him play more than a handful of times and not on match of the day?

As I've said previously my mates a season ticket holder at Rovers and when he's got a spare I sometimes go up with him if City aren't at home on the same day.

The kid is average at best! Greedy, runs in to blind alleys, and is definitely not a team player. The kid Moses is better from what I've seen.

Its kind of like how fans of other teams go on about AJ being quality. "I can't believe Johnson doesn't start every week. He's amazing! Mancini is holding him back" When really they've only seen him on match of the day skin someone and put it in the bottom corner from outside the box. So they haven't seen him lose it 8 times on the half way line by pissing about with the ball leading to an opposition attack. They haven't seen him not track back or get stuck in.


I understand what you're on about with regards to not always getting the full picture of a player, as many fans of other clubs do with AJ. I've not seen Hoilett as much as your mate obviously but when he first came onto the scene he always caught my eye so I've always tried to watch him when there was a Blackburn game on Sky/ESPN. He definitely has things still to learn, but I've seen enough quality in him to think that he is worth taking into our squad considering he's out of contract.

As other posters have mentioned above, we need a plan B and that would appear to be the reason for going after Sinclair (if that turns out to be true). I would expect neither Sinclair or Hoilett to start for us now, but they would add some width and pace to our squad which is what we need, and would give Mancini another option in a game when we need a goal. We can't keep paying £20m+ for players all the time so the Sinclair signing makes sense if true. Pretty much all top sides have a few average to merely good players in their squads who can do a job when required, won't be asking for ridiculous salaries and are happy to be part of the squad. We too do need a few players like that.

Hoilett has moved onto QPR now so we'll get to see if he does progress or not in the coming season.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:12 am

avoidconfusion wrote:Surely we could have just kept Weiss?



Weiss is absolutely fucking hopeless for British football. Why do you think every club in England & Scotland has allowed him to leave for £1.5 mill ? Just about everybody could afford that, but not one bid from anybody.
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Re: Scott Sinclair

Postby Mase » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:30 am

aaron bond wrote:
Pretty much all top sides have a few average to merely good players in their squads who can do a job when required, won't be asking for ridiculous salaries and are happy to be part of the squad. We too do need a few players like that.



Definitely agree with that. The rags have had people like Park, Chelsea Kalou who, as you say, when asked come in and do a job for the team. Kind of like Milner if he's happy to do that for the near future until Barry moves on or retires.

But its just finding those players who are happy to do that.
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