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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Alioune DVToure » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:17 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Adebayor was decent in the air though. Not a world beater but certainly a threat. Also he is far better with teh ball at feet than Dzeko.
It's amazing, he's good enough for Real Madrid but not for us.


Horses for courses, my man. They needed a striker.

They signed Julien Faubert on loan the other year. Doesn't automatically make him a world-beater.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:19 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Adebayor was decent in the air though. Not a world beater but certainly a threat. Also he is far better with teh ball at feet than Dzeko.
It's amazing, he's good enough for Real Madrid but not for us.


Horses for courses, my man. They needed a striker.

They signed Julien Faubert on loan the other year. Doesn't automatically make him a world-beater.

Adebayor scores goals, should have been given more of a chance with us.
In an injury hit season last season and other off field problems he still managed a healthy return of 16 goals.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Alioune DVToure » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:24 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Adebayor was decent in the air though. Not a world beater but certainly a threat. Also he is far better with teh ball at feet than Dzeko.
It's amazing, he's good enough for Real Madrid but not for us.


Horses for courses, my man. They needed a striker.

They signed Julien Faubert on loan the other year. Doesn't automatically make him a world-beater.

Adebayor scores goals, should have been given more of a chance with us.
In an injury hit season last season and other off field problems he still managed a healthy return of 16 goals.


I don't disagree with that, but I do disagree with:

a) The idea that he's "good enough for Madrid but not for us". He was an emergency loan signing. He won't be leading the line there for long, i.e. once Higuaín is fit.
b) Your insistence that he was dominant in the air throughout his City career. He scored a couple of nice headers from crosses, but he never gave centre-halves nightmares by spending entire matches winning everything in the air. He didn't really challenge for aerial balls like Dzeko does.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby roblues » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:34 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Adebayor was decent in the air though. Not a world beater but certainly a threat. Also he is far better with teh ball at feet than Dzeko.
It's amazing, he's good enough for Real Madrid but not for us.


Horses for courses, my man. They needed a striker.

They signed Julien Faubert on loan the other year. Doesn't automatically make him a world-beater.

Adebayor scores goals, should have been given more of a chance with us.
In an injury hit season last season and other off field problems he still managed a healthy return of 16 goals.


I don't disagree with that, but I do disagree with:

a) The idea that he's "good enough for Madrid but not for us". He was an emergency loan signing. He won't be leading the line there for long, i.e. once Higuaín is fit.
b) Your insistence that he was dominant in the air throughout his City career. He scored a couple of nice headers from crosses, but he never gave centre-halves nightmares by spending entire matches winning everything in the air. He didn't really challenge for aerial balls like Dzeko does.


I'd go even further than that on (b)...I don't think he ever wanted the ball played to his head if he could help it, he was much better with his feet and any 'challenge' he made for headers was more to distract the defender and get a lucky bounce than to actually win a header.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:59 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Adebayor was decent in the air though. Not a world beater but certainly a threat. Also he is far better with teh ball at feet than Dzeko.
It's amazing, he's good enough for Real Madrid but not for us.


Horses for courses, my man. They needed a striker.

They signed Julien Faubert on loan the other year. Doesn't automatically make him a world-beater.

Adebayor scores goals, should have been given more of a chance with us.
In an injury hit season last season and other off field problems he still managed a healthy return of 16 goals.


I don't disagree with that, but I do disagree with:

a) The idea that he's "good enough for Madrid but not for us". He was an emergency loan signing. He won't be leading the line there for long, i.e. once Higuaín is fit.
b) Your insistence that he was dominant in the air throughout his City career. He scored a couple of nice headers from crosses, but he never gave centre-halves nightmares by spending entire matches winning everything in the air. He didn't really challenge for aerial balls like Dzeko does.


So why do Madrid want to keep him?
I'm not saying he was a monster in the air but he was hardly terrible, I remember him scoring a very powerful header against Portsmouth and a couple of other nice ones.
He's also far better with the ball at his feet than Dzeko and in general a better player which begs the question why we shipped him out on loan.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby 1950 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:13 pm

Bianchi scored a very powerful header as well. Doesn't make him a good target man though.

Dzeko is good at getting at the end of crosses & scoring headers. His ability to challenge for hopeless longballs with zero support is about average.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:20 pm

1950 wrote:Bianchi scored a very powerful header as well. Doesn't make him a good target man though.

Dzeko is good at getting at the end of crosses & scoring headers. His ability to challenge for hopeless longballs with zero support is about average.

So we paid 26 million for that?
May as well of kept Santa Cruz, or bought Kevin Davies if all we wanted was that.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby 1950 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:27 pm

I didn't say it was the only thing he's good at, Einstein. You were banging on about Adebayor's aerial qualities, but he was hopeless at challenging for long balls. He's not a target man & neither is Dzeko, but the latter is imo a much bigger aerial threat in the box.

As a matter of fact Tevez is better at hustling for long balls than both of them.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:29 pm

1950 wrote:I didn't say it was the only thing he's good at, Einstein. You were banging on about Adebayor's aerial qualities, but he was hopeless at challenging for long balls. He's not a target man & neither is Dzeko, but the latter is imo a much bigger aerial threat in the box.

As a matter of fact Tevez is better at hustling for long balls than both of them.

I never said Adebayor was fantastic. I said he was decent which he was. So if Dzeko is not a target man what is he?
Bentdner is great in the air too.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Alioune DVToure » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:33 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
1950 wrote:I didn't say it was the only thing he's good at, Einstein. You were banging on about Adebayor's aerial qualities, but he was hopeless at challenging for long balls. He's not a target man & neither is Dzeko, but the latter is imo a much bigger aerial threat in the box.

As a matter of fact Tevez is better at hustling for long balls than both of them.

I never said Adebayor was fantastic. I said he was decent which he was. [highlight]So if Dzeko is not a target man what is he?[/highlight]
Bentdner is great in the air too.


We'll find that out in time if people give him a fucking chance to get settled.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby 1950 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:36 pm

Exactly.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:39 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
1950 wrote:I didn't say it was the only thing he's good at, Einstein. You were banging on about Adebayor's aerial qualities, but he was hopeless at challenging for long balls. He's not a target man & neither is Dzeko, but the latter is imo a much bigger aerial threat in the box.

As a matter of fact Tevez is better at hustling for long balls than both of them.

I never said Adebayor was fantastic. I said he was decent which he was. [highlight]So if Dzeko is not a target man what is he?[/highlight]
Bentdner is great in the air too.


We'll find that out in time if people give him a fucking chance to get settled.

So we spent 26 million on him without knowing what type of player he was?
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby 1950 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:47 pm

"We'll find that out in time if people give him a fucking chance to get settled."

we = supporters
we != Mancini & the people who actually spent the money (hint: not you)
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:56 pm

1950 wrote:"We'll find that out in time if people give him a fucking chance to get settled."

we = supporters
we != Mancini & the people who actually spent the money (hint: not you)

Oh well that's me convinced.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:43 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Dzeko really is shite. Whoever said we were better signing him than Suarez really needs their head checking.


Jesus CHRIST will you stop going on about it... or at least grasp what was really said.

Suarez is not better than Silva or Tevez and it is those players who he would be replacing if he came. Not fucking Dzeko and certainly not Patrick fucking Vieira as you suggested.

They are very different strikers with very different attributes and Dzeko is doing about as well as Surez would in a team that doesn't play to his strengths. Kind of like if you put Suarez into a side that kept giving high crosses into the box... if you get what I mean.

Time will tell who the most potent striker of the two will be, but Dzeko was not bought instead of Suarez, nor should Tevez or Silva ever be sold to be replaced with Suarez.

In our system Suarez would be far better than Dzeko is. There is no debating that.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby Slim » Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:45 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
1950 wrote:"We'll find that out in time if people give him a fucking chance to get settled."

we = supporters
we != Mancini & the people who actually spent the money (hint: not you)

Oh well that's me convinced.


me == supporter who spends quite a bit of money every season.
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Re: Ratings v Chelsea?

Postby samiraki » Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:02 am

dzeko is not a crazy all around the pitch running striker. he doesn't run much, and he is not particularly fast, but he can control the ball and wrestle the defenders and shoot with both legs and head. he simply needs a lot of balls. if you go to youtube to check out his goals you'll see the variety of scoring skills he possesses. when he played against Kiev, and when he was forward, there was no lined up defence. they were all on him. show me a striker who can do anything in such a situation. it is sad that city attack did not use that to push forward. they give him so few balls. Silva is running around like a rooster, dribling himself most of the time and Milner is useless most of the time, mostly provoking the referees.
it was so sad to watch rich City pushed around by Chelsea on Sunday. City was helpless and hopeless. it was so embarrassing.
they bought dzeko and they give him too few balls and he's always trying to pass to his teammates.
They need to use dzeko more, and create the game for him. city don't play as a team. they have to get together around someone.

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