***Official Match Thread | Arsenal v City***

[sniffer]

Mahrez does nothing for me he never attempts to evev beat a defender out wide he just turns inside and runs into a tackle or pass backwards. He is so negative, no pace and no tackles. We paid 60 million for him. He would still fetch big money I say sell in the summer.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

I know the season isn’t what any of us wanted but that first 45 minutes was a kdb masterclass. Simply magnificent.

[Outcast]

Just can't get excited despite the great result, why wait this long to start playing Foden in the first team. had he been playing more regularly, would we be 14 points behind?

[City64]

Just can't get excited despite the great result, why wait this long to start playing Foden in the first team. had he been playing more regularly, would we be 14 points behind?

Its got fuck all to do with whether Foden plays more regularly , the simple reason is we have conceded too many goals (19 so far compared to 10 this time last season I think ) through having Laporte injured and no replacement for Vinny at CB oh and a lot of VAR decisions going against us . If we were just another 6 points better off we would be right in the PL title race . Carabao Cup QF on Wednesday , easy FA Cup home tie just after Christmas and we are through to the last 16 CL in Feb / March what more do you fucking want ffs ????

[Outcast]

Just can't get excited despite the great result, why wait this long to start playing Foden in the first team. had he been playing more regularly, would we be 14 points behind?

Its got fuck all to do with whether Foden plays more regularly , the simple reason is we have conceded too many goals (19 so far compared to 10 this time last season I think ) through having Laporte injured and no replacement for Vinny at CB oh and a lot of VAR decisions going against us . If we were just another 6 points better off we would be right in the PL title race . Carabao Cup QF on Wednesday , easy FA Cup home tie just after Christmas and we are through to the last 16 CL in Feb / March what more do you fucking want ffs ????

Norwich?

Manure at home?

Wolves at home?

Don't play the VAR card, yes we had decisions go against us, yes we have been robbed, yes we had injuries but we are not 14 points behind because of those alone. Our strength is our midfield, we lacked energy playing an aging legend when we had a player more than capable fulfilling his shoes sat on the bench. I don't want Pep to leave, just wish he had gambled a lot earlier. Let's hope we can put a consistent run now and hope our rivals stutter

[City64]

Just can't get excited despite the great result, why wait this long to start playing Foden in the first team. had he been playing more regularly, would we be 14 points behind?

Its got fuck all to do with whether Foden plays more regularly , the simple reason is we have conceded too many goals (19 so far compared to 10 this time last season I think ) through having Laporte injured and no replacement for Vinny at CB oh and a lot of VAR decisions going against us . If we were just another 6 points better off we would be right in the PL title race . Carabao Cup QF on Wednesday , easy FA Cup home tie just after Christmas and we are through to the last 16 CL in Feb / March what more do you fucking want ffs ????

Norwich?

Manure at home?

Wolves at home?

Don't play the VAR card, yes we had decisions go against us, yes we have been robbed, yes we had injuries but we are not 14 points behind because of those alone. Our strength is our midfield, we lacked energy playing an aging legend when we had a player more than capable fulfilling his shoes sat on the bench. I don't want Pep to leave, just wish he had gambled a lot earlier. Let's hope we can put a consistent run now and hope our rivals stutter

Are you stupid ? We are 14 points behind because our defence is shit without Laporte and Vinny and VAR has screwed us particularly early doors v Spurs (set the seasons agenda) and the bin dipping cunts away which was a 6 pointer . We wernt great at Anfield despite the VAR farce but we did enough to get at least a point even with that clown Bravo in net . Injuries have killed us so have the resulting enforced tactical changes and VAR .......... fuck all to do with Foden getting more game .

[Outcast]

Just can't get excited despite the great result, why wait this long to start playing Foden in the first team. had he been playing more regularly, would we be 14 points behind?

Its got fuck all to do with whether Foden plays more regularly , the simple reason is we have conceded too many goals (19 so far compared to 10 this time last season I think ) through having Laporte injured and no replacement for Vinny at CB oh and a lot of VAR decisions going against us . If we were just another 6 points better off we would be right in the PL title race . Carabao Cup QF on Wednesday , easy FA Cup home tie just after Christmas and we are through to the last 16 CL in Feb / March what more do you fucking want ffs ????

Norwich?

Manure at home?

Wolves at home?

Don't play the VAR card, yes we had decisions go against us, yes we have been robbed, yes we had injuries but we are not 14 points behind because of those alone. Our strength is our midfield, we lacked energy playing an aging legend when we had a player more than capable fulfilling his shoes sat on the bench. I don't want Pep to leave, just wish he had gambled a lot earlier. Let's hope we can put a consistent run now and hope our rivals stutter

Are you stupid ? We are 14 points behind because our defence is shit without Laporte and Vinny and VAR has screwed us particularly early doors v Spurs (set the seasons agenda) and the bin dipping cunts away which was a 6 pointer . We wernt great at Anfield despite the VAR farce but we did enough to get at least a point even with that clown Bravo in net . Injuries have killed us so have the resulting enforced tactical changes and VAR .......... fuck all to do with Foden getting more game .

You sound like a broken record; copy and paste. Can you engage in a conversation without being aggressive? You don't fucking Need Laporte to beat a second string Norwich side probably cost less than Walker to assemble ffs... If we need Laporte to beat That shower of shite manure at home then god help us. We are not a one team, we shouldn't be, we have defenders, they're not great, maybe average at best, still, we shouldn't be 14 points behind, it's not good enough. I accept the circumstances being behind but not by that margin. I used Foden as an example, I can also refer to Garcia, we have talent, when do we play them, I'm implying this was a great opportunity to imbed them in this season. If Garcia establish himself, he could save us 60m next summer.

[Tokyo Blue]

Goal aside , Its just not happening for Sterling is it.

For a good 6 weeks now. If not longer

Since the England manager hung him out to dry..

[Mase]

Goal aside , Its just not happening for Sterling is it.

For a good 6 weeks now. If not longer

Since the England manager hung him out to dry..

I don't understand why Pep is doing nothing though. Because we're at a point where Raza isn't even tracking back on occasions. If that was Sanè he'd be off.

[City64]

Just can't get excited despite the great result, why wait this long to start playing Foden in the first team. had he been playing more regularly, would we be 14 points behind?

Its got fuck all to do with whether Foden plays more regularly , the simple reason is we have conceded too many goals (19 so far compared to 10 this time last season I think ) through having Laporte injured and no replacement for Vinny at CB oh and a lot of VAR decisions going against us . If we were just another 6 points better off we would be right in the PL title race . Carabao Cup QF on Wednesday , easy FA Cup home tie just after Christmas and we are through to the last 16 CL in Feb / March what more do you fucking want ffs ????

Norwich?

Manure at home?

Wolves at home?

Don't play the VAR card, yes we had decisions go against us, yes we have been robbed, yes we had injuries but we are not 14 points behind because of those alone. Our strength is our midfield, we lacked energy playing an aging legend when we had a player more than capable fulfilling his shoes sat on the bench. I don't want Pep to leave, just wish he had gambled a lot earlier. Let's hope we can put a consistent run now and hope our rivals stutter

Are you stupid ? We are 14 points behind because our defence is shit without Laporte and Vinny and VAR has screwed us particularly early doors v Spurs (set the seasons agenda) and the bin dipping cunts away which was a 6 pointer . We wernt great at Anfield despite the VAR farce but we did enough to get at least a point even with that clown Bravo in net . Injuries have killed us so have the resulting enforced tactical changes and VAR .......... fuck all to do with Foden getting more game .

You sound like a broken record; copy and paste. Can you engage in a conversation without being aggressive? You don't fucking Need Laporte to beat a second string Norwich side probably cost less than Walker to assemble ffs... If we need Laporte to beat That shower of shite manure at home then god help us. We are not a one team, we shouldn't be, we have defenders, they're not great, maybe average at best, still, we shouldn't be 14 points behind, it's not good enough. I accept the circumstances being behind but not by that margin. I used Foden as an example, I can also refer to Garcia, we have talent, when do we play them, I'm implying this was a great opportunity to imbed them in this season. If Garcia establish himself, he could save us 60m next summer.

Norwich just very nearly beat Leicester away . Stones and Ottamendi who played at Norwich are appalling when they play together and the stats prove that hence pep WONT play them together anymore . So the fact IF Laporte had played we would have been far stronger so your point is bollocks . I agree with your original point Foden gives us more energy in midfield but that alone doesn’t stop us conceding sloppy goals . Foden has done very well the last 2 games against shite opposition we simply can’t expect too much too soon from him with the demands of all the games we have to play . There are no mugs in the PL and far too many of our armchair fans and tourists expect far too much from City and pep these days especially with a pro bin dipper media PR machine in full flow brain washing fickle fans world wide . Our season now starts proper in January most teams seasons are already over !

[Outcast]

[/quote]
Norwich just very nearly beat Leicester away . Stones and Ottamendi who played at Norwich are appalling when they play together and the stats prove that hence pep WONT play them together anymore . So the fact IF Laporte had played we would have been far stronger so your point is bollocks . I agree with your original point Foden gives us more energy in midfield but that alone doesn’t stop us conceding sloppy goals . Foden has done very well the last 2 games against shite opposition we simply can’t expect too much too soon from him with the demands of all the games we have to play . There are no mugs in the PL and far too many of our armchair fans and tourists expect far too much from City and pep these days especially with a pro bin dipper media PR machine in full flow brain washing fickle fans world wide . Our season now starts proper in January most teams seasons are already over ![/quote]

Do you have an obsession with armchairs or something?

It's got fuckall to do with PR or dippers, this gap is mainly down to some poor management and refusing to try something different when plan A didn't work. Just to be clear, I'm a big Pep fan and don't want him to leave but he should be questioned when he gets it wrong. His refusal to introduce youth when plan A failed him on many occasions is mind boggling.

[City64]

Norwich just very nearly beat Leicester away . Stones and Ottamendi who played at Norwich are appalling when they play together and the stats prove that hence pep WONT play them together anymore . So the fact IF Laporte had played we would have been far stronger so your point is bollocks . I agree with your original point Foden gives us more energy in midfield but that alone doesn’t stop us conceding sloppy goals . Foden has done very well the last 2 games against shite opposition we simply can’t expect too much too soon from him with the demands of all the games we have to play . There are no mugs in the PL and far too many of our armchair fans and tourists expect far too much from City and pep these days especially with a pro bin dipper media PR machine in full flow brain washing fickle fans world wide . Our season now starts proper in January most teams seasons are already over ![/quote]

Do you have an obsession with armchairs or something?

It's got fuckall to do with PR or dippers, this gap is mainly down to some poor management and refusing to try something different when plan A didn't work. Just to be clear, I'm a big Pep fan and don't want him to leave but he should be questioned when he gets it wrong. His refusal to introduce youth when plan A failed him on many occasions is mind boggling.[/quote]
So he plays Garcia and he has a mare because too much was expected of him and the kid is ruined ! Would that be peps fault again or would it be ok for him to be ruined in his fledgling career ? The actual pace of the PL is something to be seen to be believed , almost slo mo on tv in comparison.

[Outcast]

Norwich just very nearly beat Leicester away . Stones and Ottamendi who played at Norwich are appalling when they play together and the stats prove that hence pep WONT play them together anymore . So the fact IF Laporte had played we would have been far stronger so your point is bollocks . I agree with your original point Foden gives us more energy in midfield but that alone doesn’t stop us conceding sloppy goals . Foden has done very well the last 2 games against shite opposition we simply can’t expect too much too soon from him with the demands of all the games we have to play . There are no mugs in the PL and far too many of our armchair fans and tourists expect far too much from City and pep these days especially with a pro bin dipper media PR machine in full flow brain washing fickle fans world wide . Our season now starts proper in January most teams seasons are already over !

Do you have an obsession with armchairs or something?

It's got fuckall to do with PR or dippers, this gap is mainly down to some poor management and refusing to try something different when plan A didn't work. Just to be clear, I'm a big Pep fan and don't want him to leave but he should be questioned when he gets it wrong. His refusal to introduce youth when plan A failed him on many occasions is mind boggling.[/quote]
So he plays Garcia and he has a mare because too much was expected of him and the kid is ruined ! Would that be peps fault again or would it be ok for him to be ruined in his fledgling career ? The actual pace of the PL is something to be seen to be believed , almost slo mo on tv in comparison.[/quote]

It's worth a gamble seeing our senior players haven't stepped up, this is my point, its a great opportunity to give me them a proper run under the current circumstances. When do you suggest we give them a run in the first team?

[City64]

Norwich just very nearly beat Leicester away . Stones and Ottamendi who played at Norwich are appalling when they play together and the stats prove that hence pep WONT play them together anymore . So the fact IF Laporte had played we would have been far stronger so your point is bollocks . I agree with your original point Foden gives us more energy in midfield but that alone doesn’t stop us conceding sloppy goals . Foden has done very well the last 2 games against shite opposition we simply can’t expect too much too soon from him with the demands of all the games we have to play . There are no mugs in the PL and far too many of our armchair fans and tourists expect far too much from City and pep these days especially with a pro bin dipper media PR machine in full flow brain washing fickle fans world wide . Our season now starts proper in January most teams seasons are already over !

Do you have an obsession with armchairs or something?

It's got fuckall to do with PR or dippers, this gap is mainly down to some poor management and refusing to try something different when plan A didn't work. Just to be clear, I'm a big Pep fan and don't want him to leave but he should be questioned when he gets it wrong. His refusal to introduce youth when plan A failed him on many occasions is mind boggling.

So he plays Garcia and he has a mare because too much was expected of him and the kid is ruined ! Would that be peps fault again or would it be ok for him to be ruined in his fledgling career ? The actual pace of the PL is something to be seen to be believed , almost slo mo on tv in comparison.[/quote]

It's worth a gamble seeing our senior players haven't stepped up, this is my point, its a great opportunity to give me them a proper run under the current circumstances. When do you suggest we give them a run in the first team?[/quote]
I would hate to see Garcia ruined in the PL because our senior pro CBs aren’t good enough ie John Stones . Playing Garcia in the domestic cups and against dross CL opposition perfect for his development the same as Foden for now . No hiding place in PL especially for young players .

[zabbadabbado]

Perspective.

Arsenal are Dog Shit,really Dog shit.

I can not remember seeing such an unmotivated bunch of wage thieves as the Arsenal team lot/They have serious problems.

This is why it is hard to get overly excited about the result.

I think any team in the Premier League is capable of turning them over.

The Acid test is Leicester,they are our Kyrptonite

KDB was outstanding yesterday though.That first 45 minutes from him was sublime.The save of the Season ,was very nearly the hat-trick of the Season.

[Wooders]

Agree Zabba - rarely do we get so much space, we don’t need to wait for Leicester we’ve already seen on a few occasions how much we struggle against tightly packed defences
A big black mark against Pep for subbing Foden, well he was ripping them apart with his pace and we lost a lot of the attacking momentum when he came off - don’t buy the saving him for Oxford, he is a young guy who has hardly played this season, he can manage a few full 90s in a row - it was not a great reward for playing so well to be subbed off before an hour is up and I reckon that will play on his mind and god forbid might even set him back a bit

[john@staustell]

Agree Zabba - rarely do we get so much space, we don’t need to wait for Leicester we’ve already seen on a few occasions how much we struggle against tightly packed defences
A big black mark against Pep for subbing Foden, well he was ripping them apart with his pace and we lost a lot of the attacking momentum when he came off - don’t buy the saving him for Oxford, he is a young guy who has hardly played this season, he can manage a few full 90s in a row - it was not a great reward for playing so well to be subbed off before an hour is up and I reckon that will play on his mind and god forbid might even set him back a bit

I suspect he is making some sort of perverse point. Keeping the youngsters feet on the ground, that sort of thing. Does seem a bit bonkers as when him and Razza switched (ish) we started to click big time. And Mahrez was pretty shite. And he doesn't normally sub until well gone 60 minutes. Very rare in fact, without any injury.

Probably part of 'making him try even harder next time' etc

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Agree Zabba - rarely do we get so much space, we don’t need to wait for Leicester we’ve already seen on a few occasions how much we struggle against tightly packed defences
A big black mark against Pep for subbing Foden, well he was ripping them apart with his pace and we lost a lot of the attacking momentum when he came off - don’t buy the saving him for Oxford, he is a young guy who has hardly played this season, he can manage a few full 90s in a row - it was not a great reward for playing so well to be subbed off before an hour is up and I reckon that will play on his mind and god forbid might even set him back a bit

I suspect he is making some sort of perverse point. Keeping the youngsters feet on the ground, that sort of thing. Does seem a bit bonkers as when him and Razza switched (ish) we started to click big time. And Mahrez was pretty shite. And he doesn't normally sub until well gone 60 minutes. Very rare in fact, without any injury.

Probably part of 'making him try even harder next time' etc

or maybe

“I’m disappointed with that but the manager saw I had tired legs – I have not played two games in a short time for ages, so maybe he saw that my legs were a bit tired. But I was just really happy to start."

[Mase]

Tired legs he was the most active on the field. He was literally everywhere and was showing no signs of tiring at all! Well done to Foden though for covering Pep.

[Mase]

Ederson looked knackered. Dunno why Bravo didn't come on. Everyone could see Ed was tired.