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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby City64 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:03 pm

Now then Wan Bissaka ...............

Think I started a thread on why we should have bought him last season , nearly all the armchair cunts on here didn't agree and thought he was shit ? Top top defender and would have fitted in perfectly for us , only 21 /22 years of age aswell I think ? Now where is that thread .................. :D
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby zabbadabbado » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:16 pm

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Hazy2 wrote:The fullbacks are fine, we are defying logic, space we give against teams who have pace is our biggest enemy. Fred with Mctominey looked in control for an hour. How is that, they have controlled fuck all according to rags, we made them look good that is down to Peps tactics in this game. They had 1 pass to make through our press and it caused chaos. Walker grafted his tripe out as soon as we lost it he knew if it went to Rashford he was done. Same the other side with James terrorising Angela. We have been Sussed out. Let em play and stay solid, nick it and break as they are as slow as fuck and cannot run back. In fact they don't like running. Of the back of our possession they should have had 4or 5 goals in 20 mins, that set the tone we never recovered.

Mate Angelino was fucking diabolical , out of his depth and should have been hooked at half time . Agree if it wasn't for Walker and his pace we would have been dicked proper ! We are an absolute fucking shambles at the back !
It really pissed me off that he sat there and did fuck all to stop James ripping Angelinho a New arsehole.

Would love someone to ask him why he did nothing to change that ?

The reality is if the Rags had not been so shit they could have had 4 before half time.

Still fuming at the manner of that defeat.

All i can think of is he has thrown his Toys out of the Pram and was making a point to Director of Football .

Definitely something not right with him.Maybe his wife going back to Spain has something to do with it.Now we have Barcelona tapping him up.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby sheblue » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:29 pm

City64 wrote:Now then Wan Bissaka ...............

Think I started a thread on why we should have bought him last season , nearly all the armchair cunts on here didn't agree and thought he was shit ? Top top defender and would have fitted in perfectly for us , only 21 /22 years of age aswell I think ? Now where is that thread .................. :D


He would have been a good signing.
But he was always going to the rags, so dogs abuse and piss taking was correctly the order of the day.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby zabbadabbado » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:31 pm

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Harry Dowd scored wrote:Looks to me like Pep is only happy when he has the best players in the world in every position on the pitch. If any of the positions is undermined either by bad form and or injury, he is not happy and rolls out the excuses.
The other point I think is evident here, is , we have become victims of our own success.


Correct on both points.

If PeP is to be recognized as a true ALL ROUND great manager, without some star players available, then he should be able to turn this around and get us to a level that is acceptable to us fans -if he cannot then hes no different to most managers out there.

Given the current climate , Ive accepted we will probably finish in 3rd and wont win any cups....I'm at peace with that....for this season at least.
Pep has never really been one for youth.He is the very definition of a Cheque book manager give him a few hundred million and he will build you a side and win Titles.

To be fair he has achieved that.

At this moment in time though,he has to earn his Corn and manage what he has at his disposal better.

For me he looks like he dosent have a fucking clue what to do when Plan A dont work.Sure Plan A will work against most sides in the Premier League.When we come up against fast paced sides with half decent strikers he has no idea what to do.

Defense is virtually none existent.

Even the shit sides have figured out they can stick 10 men behind the Ball and hit us on the counter.

I dont even think we have the Team for his Plan A anymore.we are not playing fast expansive football this season.We are playing slow possession based football that breaks down in the final third all to often.Pointless his Balls in to the Box.He must be coaching them to do this.

He can moan about his lot all he wants.Our owners have givven him a lot of money to spend on our side.He signed Angelinho,Cancelo for £100,000 000.It was he signed Mahrez who we didn't need,i still dont rate him.

Surely we can pick up Prem proven players for less money.

To sit there complaining at not being able to compete was taking the Piss.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby City64 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:32 pm

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Hazy2 wrote:The fullbacks are fine, we are defying logic, space we give against teams who have pace is our biggest enemy. Fred with Mctominey looked in control for an hour. How is that, they have controlled fuck all according to rags, we made them look good that is down to Peps tactics in this game. They had 1 pass to make through our press and it caused chaos. Walker grafted his tripe out as soon as we lost it he knew if it went to Rashford he was done. Same the other side with James terrorising Angela. We have been Sussed out. Let em play and stay solid, nick it and break as they are as slow as fuck and cannot run back. In fact they don't like running. Of the back of our possession they should have had 4or 5 goals in 20 mins, that set the tone we never recovered.

Mate Angelino was fucking diabolical , out of his depth and should have been hooked at half time . Agree if it wasn't for Walker and his pace we would have been dicked proper ! We are an absolute fucking shambles at the back !
It really pissed me off that he sat there and did fuck all to stop James ripping Angelinho a New arsehole.

Would love someone to ask him why he did nothing to change that ?

The reality is if the Rags had not been so shit they could have had 4 before half time.

Still fuming at the manner of that defeat.

All i can think of is he has thrown his Toys out of the Pram and was making a point to Director of Football .

Definitely something not right with him.Maybe his wife going back to Spain has something to do with it.Now we have Barcelona tapping him up.

It was sad and infuriating to see a young player get absolutely owned on the pitch and I couldn't believe it that Pep left Angelino on for so long , the lads confidence must be shot to pieces but the fact is he isn't anywhere good enough to be in a City starting line up and why the fuck did we buy him back ????
To be fair although we were totally shit on the day we could have and should have been level at half time , Jesus again missing another sitter , he another player that infuriates me . He looked the dogs bollocks v Burnley then back to shit in a big home derby game . As for Pep he hasn't been fired up since the diabolical home loss to Wolves well he did get fired up at Anfield but the VAR PL and PIGMOL cunts put that fire out that day and he hasn't been himself since then for me . It isn't going to get any better until January for me pal , FA cup and hopefully a Carabao cup semi final and Laporte and Sane back plus hopefully a punt in the transfer window for a CB . Peps biggest test to date from now until mid January .............
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby zabbadabbado » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:42 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
City64 wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
City64 wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:The fullbacks are fine, we are defying logic, space we give against teams who have pace is our biggest enemy. Fred with Mctominey looked in control for an hour. How is that, they have controlled fuck all according to rags, we made them look good that is down to Peps tactics in this game. They had 1 pass to make through our press and it caused chaos. Walker grafted his tripe out as soon as we lost it he knew if it went to Rashford he was done. Same the other side with James terrorising Angela. We have been Sussed out. Let em play and stay solid, nick it and break as they are as slow as fuck and cannot run back. In fact they don't like running. Of the back of our possession they should have had 4or 5 goals in 20 mins, that set the tone we never recovered.

Mate Angelino was fucking diabolical , out of his depth and should have been hooked at half time . Agree if it wasn't for Walker and his pace we would have been dicked proper ! We are an absolute fucking shambles at the back !


agreed I did mean to say in Peps plan. but it aint Pep. The scum copied the scousers high tempo start get after us and score whilst on top and counter for fun. What is crazy Cancelo wtf is going on, and how did we allow Danilo to leave, with Vinny gone he has more about him than most we have. Fucking outstanding v the scousers..

Yeah bang on pal . Mendy is better than Angelino but needs games and we paid top money for Cancelo who looks ok to be fair but Pep is reluctant to play either Mendy or Cancelo which is beyond baffling ???? A new CB in the January window essential even a bargain basement purchase they are out there our scouts need to pull their fucking fingers out ASAP


My son told me there is a picture of Rashford and Martial man for man with Stones and Ferna ,,, Walker and Angemarelino on the edge of the scums box how many coaches do we have on the bench with eyes let alone voices. That cannot have been the plan, if it was any manager at any level would have said mismatch if we lose the ball Pep, we are fucked Pep, that continued for 45 mins/60 mins, That is what Pep is guilty of IMO, His belief is crazy, like Bayern playing high line V Madrid a fe yrs ago and got smashed it could have been 10 by tranny and co. He was adamant they were beaten by fine margins, no mate the ball went in your net every time they attacked, because you will not bend. I fear the worst v Rodgers lot.
I remember that Bayern v Madrid game,it was insane in game management by Pep,.

He is a good manager,I wouldn't say World class.

I think he is 100% responsible for us not winning the Champions League last season.That was our moment,and he totally fucked it up.

Just like he fucked up our chances in Europe the Season before,and the season before that.

Like i said he is a good manager,not World class.

There is a reason he hasn't won the Champions League with Bayern Munich or us.His inability to be pragmatic arrogance have stopped him achieving true greatness.

I also think if he does go back to Barcelona at the end of this season it will end in disaster..Messi is not going to be around for much longer..That side he inherited back in the Day has long gone.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Nickyboy » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:16 pm

zabbadabbado wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
City64 wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
City64 wrote:[

My son told me there is a picture of Rashford and Martial man for man with Stones and Ferna ,,, Walker and Angemarelino on the edge of the scums box how many coaches do we have on the bench with eyes let alone voices. That cannot have been the plan, if it was any manager at any level would have said mismatch if we lose the ball Pep, we are fucked Pep, that continued for 45 mins/60 mins, That is what Pep is guilty of IMO, His belief is crazy, like Bayern playing high line V Madrid a fe yrs ago and got smashed it could have been 10 by tranny and co. He was adamant they were beaten by fine margins, no mate the ball went in your net every time they attacked, because you will not bend. I fear the worst v Rodgers lot.
I remember that Bayern v Madrid game,it was insane in game management by Pep,.

He is a good manager,I wouldn't say World class.

I think he is 100% responsible for us not winning the Champions League last season.That was our moment,and he totally fucked it up.

Just like he fucked up our chances in Europe the Season before,and the season before that.

Like i said he is a good manager,not World class.

There is a reason he hasn't won the Champions League with Bayern Munich or us.His inability to be pragmatic arrogance have stopped him achieving true greatness.

I also think if he does go back to Barcelona at the end of this season it will end in disaster..Messi is not going to be around for much longer..That side he inherited back in the Day has long gone.


Hadn't the side he inherited at Barca just finished a distant 4th? But why let truth get in the way hey...
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby zuricity » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:24 pm

Deluded.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:30 pm

He has previous with Javi Martinez and experimenting with a midfielder dropping back and being part of a defence that gets rinsed
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby City64 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:04 pm

Although a dead rubber in a hostile stadium I expect a reaction from Pep and the players tomorrow in Zagreb . Need energy and bite into the team and a clean sheet would be nice for a change !
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby zuricity » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:15 pm

City64 wrote:Although a dead rubber in a hostile stadium I expect a reaction from Pep and the players tomorrow in Zagreb . Need energy and bite into the team and a clean sheet would be nice for a change !


i dont expect a reaction. Just need to walk away without any more injuries.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Dimples » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:31 pm

Question for all those saying Pep should do this that and the other.
What tactics do you suggest for the following:

1. TAA handball not given at Anfield
2. Goal given to Liverpool from resulting illegal attack
3. Rashford soft penalty given at ours
4. The double handball that was ignored at ours

Point is - no tactics can complete with the above.
That is the root cause of our issues.

Every other discussion is a waste of time.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Sparklehorse » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:44 pm

Dimples wrote:Question for all those saying Pep should do this that and the other.
What tactics do you suggest for the following:

1. TAA handball not given at Anfield
2. Goal given to Liverpool from resulting illegal attack
3. Rashford soft penalty given at ours
4. The double handball that was ignored at ours

Point is - no tactics can complete with the above.
That is the root cause of our issues.

Every other discussion is a waste of time.

I agree with the exception of Fern not playing in his proper role and has been the best at doing it in the Premier League for many a season and not playing Foden or Garcia, but Var has had the greatest influence on our results
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Bluemoon4610 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:47 pm

Dimples wrote:Question for all those saying Pep should do this that and the other.
What tactics do you suggest for the following:

1. TAA handball not given at Anfield
2. Goal given to Liverpool from resulting illegal attack
3. Rashford soft penalty given at ours
4. The double handball that was ignored at ours

Point is - no tactics can complete with the above.
That is the root cause of our issues.

Every other discussion is a waste of time.

Have to agree to this in the main. What we also don't know, and are not even discussing, is how much these dodgy decisions are fucking with the player's heads. How many are thinking "why bother when I know now't will come of my efforts due to corrupt decisions"?
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Mase » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:25 am

Honestly, anyone that thinks the rags pen shouldn't have been given on Saturday you're deluded. Bernardo cleaned him out.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Mase » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:26 am

City64 wrote:Now then Wan Bissaka ...............

Think I started a thread on why we should have bought him last season , nearly all the armchair cunts on here didn't agree and thought he was shit ? Top top defender and would have fitted in perfectly for us , only 21 /22 years of age aswell I think ? Now where is that thread .................. :D


Every time I've seen him play he's been awful. Giving the ball away, making rash tackles. I'm glad we didn't go for him. Luke Shaw MK2.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:51 am

Mase wrote:Honestly, anyone that thinks the rags pen shouldn't have been given on Saturday you're deluded. Bernardo cleaned him out.


Yep, unnecessary too, he was going nowhere, daft challenge.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:52 am

Mase wrote:
City64 wrote:Now then Wan Bissaka ...............

Think I started a thread on why we should have bought him last season , nearly all the armchair cunts on here didn't agree and thought he was shit ? Top top defender and would have fitted in perfectly for us , only 21 /22 years of age aswell I think ? Now where is that thread .................. :D


Every time I've seen him play he's been awful. Giving the ball away, making rash tackles. I'm glad we didn't go for him. Luke Shaw MK2.


He's good at defending, that's about it.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Mase » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:32 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:
City64 wrote:Now then Wan Bissaka ...............

Think I started a thread on why we should have bought him last season , nearly all the armchair cunts on here didn't agree and thought he was shit ? Top top defender and would have fitted in perfectly for us , only 21 /22 years of age aswell I think ? Now where is that thread .................. :D


Every time I've seen him play he's been awful. Giving the ball away, making rash tackles. I'm glad we didn't go for him. Luke Shaw MK2.


He's good at defending, that's about it.


I remember watching them against Wolves and he was getting skinned. The last time he just booted the attacker because he couldn't handle him.
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Re: Pep " we cant compete "

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:52 am

Var has become our enemy. We have not been at it though, Laporte injury has ruined us, Pep has tried Ferna at the back we are 14 points behind, is it working. Answers on on post card to Mr Stubborn Bollocks, Etihad Campus no posts code needed it will get there, no problem.
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