Pep " we cant compete "

[sheblue]

Say if Foden and Garcia start and we still loose games what will be the problem then.

[Mase]

Say if Foden and Garcia start and we still loose games what will be the problem then.

It won't be any different from now then. But at least we have tried another option than just the plan A we currently have.

[sheblue]

Say if Foden and Garcia start and we still loose games what will be the problem then.

It won't be any different from now then. But at least we have tried another option than just the plan A we currently have.

My point is were over analysing it. We, all of us point to this and that as being the problem when the truth is it's a whole pile of reasons why our form is so poor and it's going to take time to solve it.
Bringing in 1 or 2 young players while it might freshen it a bit, it wont fix our problems.

[Mase]

Say if Foden and Garcia start and we still loose games what will be the problem then.

It won't be any different from now then. But at least we have tried another option than just the plan A we currently have.

My point is were over analysing it. We, all of us point to this and that as being the problem when the truth is it's a whole pile of reasons why our form is so poor and it's going to take time to solve it.
Bringing in 1 or 2 young players while it might freshen it a bit, it wont fix our problems.

Why should it take time though? This team is the same team that won EVERYTHING last season. It's not a team in transition. Pep is the highest paid manager in the world and he's making huge mistakes because he's arrogant and won't change things. It's simple.

[sheblue]

Say if Foden and Garcia start and we still loose games what will be the problem then.

It won't be any different from now then. But at least we have tried another option than just the plan A we currently have.

My point is were over analysing it. We, all of us point to this and that as being the problem when the truth is it's a whole pile of reasons why our form is so poor and it's going to take time to solve it.
Bringing in 1 or 2 young players while it might freshen it a bit, it wont fix our problems.

Why should it take time though? This team is the same team that won EVERYTHING last season. It's not a team in transition. Pep is the highest paid manager in the world and he's making huge mistakes because he's arrogant and won't change things. It's simple.

Well it's not quite the same team though is it. Players gone including our influential captain, players out on long term injuries, some players aging and slowing.
Add to that the intensity and wear of the last two seasons taking its toll. Were really not the same team.
We are in transition, not a major one, but one nonetheless.

[Dimples]

I think he only made those comments so he could let the PL , FA , Pigmol and Sky know that we are being done over by VAR and 'The Organisation' .

I agree.
There is an elephant in the room - do not ignore it.
The only discussion should be about the corrupt decisions.
By ignoring it, all of you are doing what PL/PIGMOL/SKY want. Deflecting away from the real source of our bad form.
How do you expect Pep and the players to be focused if they know they are going to be cheated at every turn?

Look at it another way.
It is like praising the Dippers and the Rags and ignoring the elephant in the room (which is what the media do):
1. Liverpool winning matches late (great spirit) -why? They get dodgy calls, no yellow cards, are allowed stamp on the opposition, etc...
2. The Rags have got 8 penalties this season (pacy attack) - why? They get dodgy calls.
But lets ignore the dodgy calls and have a detailed discussion on the Dipper team spirit and the Rags pacy attacking play.

Pointless discussion.
Bottom line the PL is rotten to the core. It is a stitch up. Any logical discussion on us, Dippers or Rags is a pointless waste of time until
the PL is cleaned up.

[zabbadabbado]

Maybe he should manage what he has at his disposal a little bit better.

A fucking blind man could see our deficiencies.

Instead of compounding these obvious deficiencies, with his obsession at never deviating away from his own football philosophy regardless of the circumstances.

Make no mistake we are in troubled waters.

We lose to the Shiitest Arsenal side in the last 50 years and get what i am expecting will be a seriously good pasting by Leicester then we will be in freefall.

There wont be much talk about extending his contract despite all the success over the last 2 seasons.

I find it irritating the defeatest undertone to his interview,.,Blowing smoke up the Rags arses,they are a shit mid-Table side.We lost because Loony Tunes was making some sort of statement.We spent £100 000 000 on fucking fullbacks all of them are shit,i mean seriously wtf.

[Hazy2]

The fullbacks are fine, we are defying logic, space we give against teams who have pace is our biggest enemy. Fred with Mctominey looked in control for an hour. How is that, they have controlled fuck all according to rags, we made them look good that is down to Peps tactics in this game. They had 1 pass to make through our press and it caused chaos. Walker grafted his tripe out as soon as we lost it he knew if it went to Rashford he was done. Same the other side with James terrorising Angela. We have been Sussed out. Let em play and stay solid, nick it and break as they are as slow as fuck and cannot run back. In fact they don't like running. Of the back of our possession they should have had 4or 5 goals in 20 mins, that set the tone we never recovered.

[Mase]

Say if Foden and Garcia start and we still loose games what will be the problem then.

It won't be any different from now then. But at least we have tried another option than just the plan A we currently have.

My point is were over analysing it. We, all of us point to this and that as being the problem when the truth is it's a whole pile of reasons why our form is so poor and it's going to take time to solve it.
Bringing in 1 or 2 young players while it might freshen it a bit, it wont fix our problems.

Why should it take time though? This team is the same team that won EVERYTHING last season. It's not a team in transition. Pep is the highest paid manager in the world and he's making huge mistakes because he's arrogant and won't change things. It's simple.

Well it's not quite the same team though is it. Players gone including our influential captain, players out on long term injuries, some players aging and slowing.
Add to that the intensity and wear of the last two seasons taking its toll. Were really not the same team.
We are in transition, not a major one, but one nonetheless.

Kompany started 13 matches last season. Come on mate stop making excuses. Pep has spent massively, including last summer. It's his choice to not replace certain players. The aging players were slowing 8 months ago, so if they needed replacing why not replace them in the summer?

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Maybe he should manage what he has at his disposal a little bit better.

A fucking blind man could see our deficiencies.

Instead of compounding these obvious deficiencies, with his obsession at never deviating away from his own football philosophy regardless of the circumstances.

Make no mistake we are in troubled waters.

We lose to the Shiitest Arsenal side in the last 50 years and get what i am expecting will be a seriously good pasting by Leicester then we will be in freefall.

There wont be much talk about extending his contract despite all the success over the last 2 seasons.

I find it irritating the defeatest undertone to his interview,.,Blowing smoke up the Rags arses,they are a shit mid-Table side.We lost because Loony Tunes was making some sort of statement.We spent £100 000 000 on fucking fullbacks all of them are shit,i mean seriously wtf.

[Outcast]

Say if Foden and Garcia start and we still loose games what will be the problem then.

It won't be any different from now then. But at least we have tried another option than just the plan A we currently have.

My point is were over analysing it. We, all of us point to this and that as being the problem when the truth is it's a whole pile of reasons why our form is so poor and it's going to take time to solve it.
Bringing in 1 or 2 young players while it might freshen it a bit, it wont fix our problems.

Why should it take time though? This team is the same team that won EVERYTHING last season. It's not a team in transition. Pep is the highest paid manager in the world and he's making huge mistakes because he's arrogant and won't change things. It's simple.

Well it's not quite the same team though is it. Players gone including our influential captain, players out on long term injuries, some players aging and slowing.
Add to that the intensity and wear of the last two seasons taking its toll. Were really not the same team.
We are in transition, not a major one, but one nonetheless.

I can accept certain circumstances such as VAR and injuries going against us, I have been making excuses for our short comings, but to lose to a decimated Norwich, at home to Wolves, to medicore Rag shite? I can accept falling behind in title race but not by this margin, it's not acceptable. I think most of our frustration stems from not playing our talented academy players more often, we can accept not challenging for title or falling short, what an opportunity to bring in academy players and embed them in. I don't want Pep to leave, just do something different man, start preparing for next season, how about playing Foden more ready for next season, Silva, as great as he is, he's the past, time to move on and take a worthy gamble. Must Garcia cost £80m to get game time, must Foden cost £100m to replace Silva, are we allergic to academy players? I'm not saying it's guaranteed they'll make it, we have to start taking gambles at some point. it's been a fucking miserable season

[Harry Dowd scored]

Looks to me like Pep is only happy when he has the best players in the world in every position on the pitch. If any of the positions is undermined either by bad form and or injury, he is not happy and rolls out the excuses.
The other point I think is evident here, is , we have become victims of our own success.

[City64]

The fullbacks are fine, we are defying logic, space we give against teams who have pace is our biggest enemy. Fred with Mctominey looked in control for an hour. How is that, they have controlled fuck all according to rags, we made them look good that is down to Peps tactics in this game. They had 1 pass to make through our press and it caused chaos. Walker grafted his tripe out as soon as we lost it he knew if it went to Rashford he was done. Same the other side with James terrorising Angela. We have been Sussed out. Let em play and stay solid, nick it and break as they are as slow as fuck and cannot run back. In fact they don't like running. Of the back of our possession they should have had 4or 5 goals in 20 mins, that set the tone we never recovered.

Mate Angelino was fucking diabolical , out of his depth and should have been hooked at half time . Agree if it wasn't for Walker and his pace we would have been dicked proper ! We are an absolute fucking shambles at the back !

[carl_feedthegoat]

Looks to me like Pep is only happy when he has the best players in the world in every position on the pitch. If any of the positions is undermined either by bad form and or injury, he is not happy and rolls out the excuses.
The other point I think is evident here, is , we have become victims of our own success.

Correct on both points.

If PeP is to be recognized as a true ALL ROUND great manager, without some star players available, then he should be able to turn this around and get us to a level that is acceptable to us fans -if he cannot then hes no different to most managers out there.

Given the current climate , Ive accepted we will probably finish in 3rd and wont win any cups....I'm at peace with that....for this season at least.

[Hazy2]

The fullbacks are fine, we are defying logic, space we give against teams who have pace is our biggest enemy. Fred with Mctominey looked in control for an hour. How is that, they have controlled fuck all according to rags, we made them look good that is down to Peps tactics in this game. They had 1 pass to make through our press and it caused chaos. Walker grafted his tripe out as soon as we lost it he knew if it went to Rashford he was done. Same the other side with James terrorising Angela. We have been Sussed out. Let em play and stay solid, nick it and break as they are as slow as fuck and cannot run back. In fact they don't like running. Of the back of our possession they should have had 4or 5 goals in 20 mins, that set the tone we never recovered.

Mate Angelino was fucking diabolical , out of his depth and should have been hooked at half time . Agree if it wasn't for Walker and his pace we would have been dicked proper ! We are an absolute fucking shambles at the back !

agreed I did mean to say in Peps plan. but it aint Pep. The scum copied the scousers high tempo start get after us and score whilst on top and counter for fun. What is crazy Cancelo wtf is going on, and how did we allow Danilo to leave, with Vinny gone he has more about him than most we have. Fucking outstanding v the scousers..

[City64]

The fullbacks are fine, we are defying logic, space we give against teams who have pace is our biggest enemy. Fred with Mctominey looked in control for an hour. How is that, they have controlled fuck all according to rags, we made them look good that is down to Peps tactics in this game. They had 1 pass to make through our press and it caused chaos. Walker grafted his tripe out as soon as we lost it he knew if it went to Rashford he was done. Same the other side with James terrorising Angela. We have been Sussed out. Let em play and stay solid, nick it and break as they are as slow as fuck and cannot run back. In fact they don't like running. Of the back of our possession they should have had 4or 5 goals in 20 mins, that set the tone we never recovered.

Mate Angelino was fucking diabolical , out of his depth and should have been hooked at half time . Agree if it wasn't for Walker and his pace we would have been dicked proper ! We are an absolute fucking shambles at the back !

agreed I did mean to say in Peps plan. but it aint Pep. The scum copied the scousers high tempo start get after us and score whilst on top and counter for fun. What is crazy Cancelo wtf is going on, and how did we allow Danilo to leave, with Vinny gone he has more about him than most we have. Fucking outstanding v the scousers..

Yeah bang on pal . Mendy is better than Angelino but needs games and we paid top money for Cancelo who looks ok to be fair but Pep is reluctant to play either Mendy or Cancelo which is beyond baffling ???? A new CB in the January window essential even a bargain basement purchase they are out there our scouts need to pull their fucking fingers out ASAP

[Hazy2]

The fullbacks are fine, we are defying logic, space we give against teams who have pace is our biggest enemy. Fred with Mctominey looked in control for an hour. How is that, they have controlled fuck all according to rags, we made them look good that is down to Peps tactics in this game. They had 1 pass to make through our press and it caused chaos. Walker grafted his tripe out as soon as we lost it he knew if it went to Rashford he was done. Same the other side with James terrorising Angela. We have been Sussed out. Let em play and stay solid, nick it and break as they are as slow as fuck and cannot run back. In fact they don't like running. Of the back of our possession they should have had 4or 5 goals in 20 mins, that set the tone we never recovered.

Mate Angelino was fucking diabolical , out of his depth and should have been hooked at half time . Agree if it wasn't for Walker and his pace we would have been dicked proper ! We are an absolute fucking shambles at the back !

agreed I did mean to say in Peps plan. but it aint Pep. The scum copied the scousers high tempo start get after us and score whilst on top and counter for fun. What is crazy Cancelo wtf is going on, and how did we allow Danilo to leave, with Vinny gone he has more about him than most we have. Fucking outstanding v the scousers..

Yeah bang on pal . Mendy is better than Angelino but needs games and we paid top money for Cancelo who looks ok to be fair but Pep is reluctant to play either Mendy or Cancelo which is beyond baffling ???? A new CB in the January window essential even a bargain basement purchase they are out there our scouts need to pull their fucking fingers out ASAP

My son told me there is a picture of Rashford and Martial man for man with Stones and Ferna ,,, Walker and Angemarelino on the edge of the scums box how many coaches do we have on the bench with eyes let alone voices. That cannot have been the plan, if it was any manager at any level would have said mismatch if we lose the ball Pep, we are fucked Pep, that continued for 45 mins/60 mins, That is what Pep is guilty of IMO, His belief is crazy, like Bayern playing high line V Madrid a fe yrs ago and got smashed it could have been 10 by tranny and co. He was adamant they were beaten by fine margins, no mate the ball went in your net every time they attacked, because you will not bend. I fear the worst v Rodgers lot.

[Saul Goodman]

With Liverpool, UNITED, Barcelona, madrid"

Is he high ? Just makes me thinks a part of is him doing something on purpose.

We all of a sudden cant conpete with a mid table side ?

He's not wrong. We couldn't compete with United. They fully deserved to win that game and were the better side for basically the entire thing. Yes, there are injuries that play a huge part but with the squad as it is right now we couldn't compete with United last weekend. I don't see where Pep is wrong.

Now, on paper or maybe when we're at full strength....thats a different story.

[Nick]

With Liverpool, UNITED, Barcelona, madrid"

Is he high ? Just makes me thinks a part of is him doing something on purpose.

We all of a sudden cant conpete with a mid table side ?

He's not wrong. We couldn't compete with United. They fully deserved to win that game and were the better side for basically the entire thing. Yes, there are injuries that play a huge part but with the squad as it is right now we couldn't compete with United last weekend. I don't see where Pep is wrong.

Now, on paper or maybe when we're at full strength....thats a different story.

It was the 11 we all wanted, the 11 that took apart Burnley. It shouldn't have been an 11 that made scum look like barca.

Sterling was my player to single out (right in front ofvme) another bottle job in a big game. Absolutely shit scared of wank bissaka, didnt even try and take him on. To talk up more contracts and Madrid moves you need to perform in derbies and against teams that boo you...

[Foreverinbluedreams]

With Liverpool, UNITED, Barcelona, madrid"

Is he high ? Just makes me thinks a part of is him doing something on purpose.

We all of a sudden cant conpete with a mid table side ?

He's not wrong. We couldn't compete with United. They fully deserved to win that game and were the better side for basically the entire thing. Yes, there are injuries that play a huge part but with the squad as it is right now we couldn't compete with United last weekend. I don't see where Pep is wrong.

Now, on paper or maybe when we're at full strength....thats a different story.

It was the 11 we all wanted, the 11 that took apart Burnley. It shouldn't have been an 11 that made scum look like barca.

Sterling was my player to single out (right in front ofvme) another bottle job in a big game. Absolutely shit scared of wank bissaka, didnt even try and take him on. To talk up more contracts and Madrid moves you need to perform in derbies and against teams that boo you...

WTF???!!! Sterling was shit, I'm not going to argue against that but didn't even try to take him on? That's nonsense, the problem was every time(which was a lot) he tried to take him on he was dispossessed.