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IS ROBERTO MANCINI THE MAN TO LEAD CITY TO THE TITLE?

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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:50 pm

johnpb78 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:There's no difference under Mancini as there was under Hughes, apart from a nice scarf that is. Our football as a form of entertainment has gone right down the drain.

Are you being serious there mate? I was actually enjoying the football under Hughes, even the endless draws were like a soap opera. Since Hughes, and I've mentioned this many times previously, we do not entertain, simply try to win at all costs.

If we cannot win a game, at least let the players show some creativity, let them play their natural game. I'm starting to think that Mancio is here to get us in shape for 'The Special One' type of football!?!


If swapping Mancini for Jose was on the table at the end of the season, we would all take it now. FACT

Very true mate, and we as supporters have probably seen more than most over the years so a Mourinho type of tactic does sound appealing at the moment. I've seen many inept tactical displays, but as you've metioned in your previous (good post by the way), Mancio does not seem to grasp where our strengths are.

We all want him to succeed and hopefully (a word that we all know about) he will, but if he insists on playing to strict rules rather than play to team strengths, then I'm afraid he will lose my support!
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:00 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
johnpb78 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:There's no difference under Mancini as there was under Hughes, apart from a nice scarf that is. Our football as a form of entertainment has gone right down the drain.

Are you being serious there mate? I was actually enjoying the football under Hughes, even the endless draws were like a soap opera. Since Hughes, and I've mentioned this many times previously, we do not entertain, simply try to win at all costs.

If we cannot win a game, at least let the players show some creativity, let them play their natural game. I'm starting to think that Mancio is here to get us in shape for 'The Special One' type of football!?!


If swapping Mancini for Jose was on the table at the end of the season, we would all take it now. FACT

Very true mate, and we as supporters have probably seen more than most over the years so a Mourinho type of tactic does sound appealing at the moment. I've seen many inept tactical displays, but as you've metioned in your previous (good post by the way), Mancio does not seem to grasp where our strengths are.

We all want him to succeed and hopefully (a word that we all know about) he will, but if he insists on playing to strict rules rather than play to team strengths, then I'm afraid he will lose my support!


I can't even begin to tell you how much I want the manager to succeed. Even if its not 4th place this year,I just want to see a step forward, and I hope he can give us that by the end of the year.

Ultimately, Mourinho's tactics will differ little from what we see now, but as I said in a different thread, the players who take the pitch for him go onto the pitch thinking that they are the best team/player in the world. Fuck knows how he does, it, but he does - its not a fluke, he did it with Porto, he won the league easily twice with Chelsea, who at the time were in a similar position to where we are now and had the hold over Fergie.

Hope it doesnt come to that, but..................I dont think I could say no even if Bobby took us to the champs league, after all, we already have the shit football!!
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:20 am

johnpb78 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
johnpb78 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:There's no difference under Mancini as there was under Hughes, apart from a nice scarf that is. Our football as a form of entertainment has gone right down the drain.

Are you being serious there mate? I was actually enjoying the football under Hughes, even the endless draws were like a soap opera. Since Hughes, and I've mentioned this many times previously, we do not entertain, simply try to win at all costs.

If we cannot win a game, at least let the players show some creativity, let them play their natural game. I'm starting to think that Mancio is here to get us in shape for 'The Special One' type of football!?!


If swapping Mancini for Jose was on the table at the end of the season, we would all take it now. FACT

Very true mate, and we as supporters have probably seen more than most over the years so a Mourinho type of tactic does sound appealing at the moment. I've seen many inept tactical displays, but as you've metioned in your previous (good post by the way), Mancio does not seem to grasp where our strengths are.

We all want him to succeed and hopefully (a word that we all know about) he will, but if he insists on playing to strict rules rather than play to team strengths, then I'm afraid he will lose my support!


I can't even begin to tell you how much I want the manager to succeed. Even if its not 4th place this year,I just want to see a step forward, and I hope he can give us that by the end of the year.

Ultimately, Mourinho's tactics will differ little from what we see now, but as I said in a different thread, the players who take the pitch for him go onto the pitch thinking that they are the best team/player in the world. Fuck knows how he does, it, but he does - its not a fluke, he did it with Porto, he won the league easily twice with Chelsea, who at the time were in a similar position to where we are now and had the hold over Fergie.

Hope it doesnt come to that, but..................I dont think I could say no even if Bobby took us to the champs league, after all, we already have the shit football!!

May I say, I for one cannot stand Mourinho as a person, and although people loved him for his outbursts, comments and strange interviews at Chelsea, I just thought he was a self-centred twat of a man who just wanted to big himself up. The problem is, I believe he has already been lined up so I'm getting myself mentally prepared for it, but deep inside wishing that Mancio can get us the fourth he's promised to the board; which brings on another problem of having to drop my ideals and support some awful, awful football.

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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:37 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
johnpb78 wrote:I can't even begin to tell you how much I want the manager to succeed. Even if its not 4th place this year,I just want to see a step forward, and I hope he can give us that by the end of the year.

Ultimately, Mourinho's tactics will differ little from what we see now, but as I said in a different thread, the players who take the pitch for him go onto the pitch thinking that they are the best team/player in the world. Fuck knows how he does, it, but he does - its not a fluke, he did it with Porto, he won the league easily twice with Chelsea, who at the time were in a similar position to where we are now and had the hold over Fergie.

Hope it doesnt come to that, but..................I dont think I could say no even if Bobby took us to the champs league, after all, we already have the shit football!!

May I say, I for one cannot stand Mourinho as a person, and although people loved him for his outbursts, comments and strange interviews at Chelsea, I just thought he was a self-centred twat of a man who just wanted to big himself up. The problem is, I believe he has already been lined up so I'm getting myself mentally prepared for it, but deep inside wishing that Mancio can get us the fourth he's promised to the board; which brings on another problem of having to drop my ideals and support some awful, awful football.

Life just ain't right, but when did life with City ever change?!?


Although the rags think otherwise, I cant see any other reason for this 6 months bollocks with Mancini, so I am with you in thinking that he will be our gaffer next year regardless. I would however like to look back on Mancini fondly having achieved something. I can now look back on Hughes fondly (now he has gone), being an important part of the "journey"

I think one has to accept that if he is making his players believe that they are the very best, which he undoubtedly does, he has to think he is the very best in his own role. I think although it can come across cuntish, you have to do be so, because then you create an aura not just about yourself, but about your team.

I admit doing it myself with the last couple of companies I worked with, and it works, the aura of success creates a myth. My staff knew I was only coming there for the very top results, and by coaching them how to do it my way, they start to feel they are also part of the BEST team because they get the results they want. So long as I kept achieving the top results, the myth perpetuates, and the more successful I become. It shocks me how easy it is to keep the myth rolling, but ultimately my success is down to people who believe in me - not how good I actually am.

I think a lot has been lost in translation in italy, as they dont seem to have the same sense of irony or sense of humour so he has had a constant battle with the media. He is totally understood here, and that why he has to come back - i just hope he dont go to liverpool
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Chopper » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:54 am

johnpb78 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:There's no difference under Mancini as there was under Hughes, apart from a nice scarf that is. Our football as a form of entertainment has gone right down the drain.

Are you being serious there mate? I was actually enjoying the football under Hughes, even the endless draws were like a soap opera. Since Hughes, and I've mentioned this many times previously, we do not entertain, simply try to win at all costs.

If we cannot win a game, at least let the players show some creativity, let them play their natural game. I'm starting to think that Mancio is here to get us in shape for 'The Special One' type of football!?!


If swapping Mancini for Jose was on the table at the end of the season, we would all take it now. FACT


I wouldnt.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Kiss_The_Goat » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:11 am

Chopper wrote:
johnpb78 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:There's no difference under Mancini as there was under Hughes, apart from a nice scarf that is. Our football as a form of entertainment has gone right down the drain.

Are you being serious there mate? I was actually enjoying the football under Hughes, even the endless draws were like a soap opera. Since Hughes, and I've mentioned this many times previously, we do not entertain, simply try to win at all costs.

If we cannot win a game, at least let the players show some creativity, let them play their natural game. I'm starting to think that Mancio is here to get us in shape for 'The Special One' type of football!?!


If swapping Mancini for Jose was on the table at the end of the season, we would all take it now. FACT


I wouldnt.


Neither would I.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:30 am

I want Mancini to succeed particularly to kill off what I see as the 'threat' of having Jose run our club - as a candidate for manager for me he is marginally ahead of that twat Keane (said just to explain how much I do not want him as manager)
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:58 am

Kiss_The_Goat wrote:
Chopper wrote:
johnpb78 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:There's no difference under Mancini as there was under Hughes, apart from a nice scarf that is. Our football as a form of entertainment has gone right down the drain.

Are you being serious there mate? I was actually enjoying the football under Hughes, even the endless draws were like a soap opera. Since Hughes, and I've mentioned this many times previously, we do not entertain, simply try to win at all costs.

If we cannot win a game, at least let the players show some creativity, let them play their natural game. I'm starting to think that Mancio is here to get us in shape for 'The Special One' type of football!?!


If swapping Mancini for Jose was on the table at the end of the season, we would all take it now. FACT


I wouldnt.


Neither would I.


I'm not sure I would either. Yesterday was shocking but I think we will progress with little patience.

That said, this is THE most ridiculous thing I've EVER read here and there has been few gems to choose from.

mcfc1632 wrote:I want Mancini to succeed particularly to kill off what I see as the 'threat' of having Jose run our club - as a candidate for manager for me he is marginally ahead of that twat Keane (said just to explain how much I do not want him as manager)
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby The Man In Blue » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:27 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:That said, this is THE most ridiculous thing I've EVER read here and there has been few gems to choose from.


if we are picking those out, suggesting Maradona would not make it in todays game is well up there.

btw i had my one and a half year old nephew saying "mancini" yesterday.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:58 am

I'd suggest we start new topic and new poll. I'd be genuinely interested to hear opinion of people right now. Many people voted when he was appointed and haven't chnged their vote since so I don't reckon the results are valid anymore.

What do other people think?
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby ant london » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:03 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I'd suggest we start new topic and new poll. I'd be genuinely interested to hear opinion of people right now. Many people voted when he was appointed and haven't chnged their vote since so I don't reckon the results are valid anymore.

What do other people think?


Poor idea IMO

I thought the whole point of this was to provide a steady barometer as to people's feelings on Mancini.

Most of us don't see-saw one way and the other on the basis of a poor result (or two, or three). We recognise that he has many qualities (....and yes, that was also the case with Hughes) and we intend to support him. I voted that he was the right man when he was appointed, I'm not happy at yesterday's "performance" but he hasn't had enough time to prove himself to be the wrong man and I've still (in this short time) seen enough to convince me that, given time, he will get this right.

I'm pretty sure many others who voted "yes" initially feel exactly the same
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:09 am

ant london wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I'd suggest we start new topic and new poll. I'd be genuinely interested to hear opinion of people right now. Many people voted when he was appointed and haven't chnged their vote since so I don't reckon the results are valid anymore.

What do other people think?


Poor idea IMO

I thought the whole point of this was to provide a steady barometer as to people's feelings on Mancini.

Most of us don't see-saw one way and the other on the basis of a poor result (or two, or three). We recognise that he has many qualities (....and yes, that was also the case with Hughes) and we intend to support him. I voted that he was the right man when he was appointed, I'm not happy at yesterday's "performance" but he hasn't had enough time to prove himself to be the wrong man and I've still (in this short time) seen enough to convince me that, given time, he will get this right.

I'm pretty sure many others who voted "yes" initially feel exactly the same


Yes but only probably 30 regulars follow this topic constantly meaning most have left their votes as it was when he was appointed. That would be the case regardless of us winning Champion's League or getting relegated.

For the record I still think he is THE man in long term and haven't changed my vote at any stage.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Wonderwall » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:11 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
ant london wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I'd suggest we start new topic and new poll. I'd be genuinely interested to hear opinion of people right now. Many people voted when he was appointed and haven't chnged their vote since so I don't reckon the results are valid anymore.

What do other people think?


Poor idea IMO

I thought the whole point of this was to provide a steady barometer as to people's feelings on Mancini.

Most of us don't see-saw one way and the other on the basis of a poor result (or two, or three). We recognise that he has many qualities (....and yes, that was also the case with Hughes) and we intend to support him. I voted that he was the right man when he was appointed, I'm not happy at yesterday's "performance" but he hasn't had enough time to prove himself to be the wrong man and I've still (in this short time) seen enough to convince me that, given time, he will get this right.

I'm pretty sure many others who voted "yes" initially feel exactly the same


Yes but only probably 30 regulars follow this topic constantly meaning most have left their votes as it was when he was appointed. That would be the case regardless of us winning Champion's League or getting relegated.

For the record I still think he is THE man in long term and haven't changed my vote at any stage.


everyone knows this topic is here, if they feel strongly enough to change their original vote, they will do.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:15 am

I changed my vote from 'Not Sure' to 'No' last week, then back to 'Not Sure' after the beer wore off. This week, I kept it the same as I want to see if Mancio can turn his tactical displays around.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:16 am

Wonderwall wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
ant london wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I'd suggest we start new topic and new poll. I'd be genuinely interested to hear opinion of people right now. Many people voted when he was appointed and haven't chnged their vote since so I don't reckon the results are valid anymore.

What do other people think?


Poor idea IMO

I thought the whole point of this was to provide a steady barometer as to people's feelings on Mancini.

Most of us don't see-saw one way and the other on the basis of a poor result (or two, or three). We recognise that he has many qualities (....and yes, that was also the case with Hughes) and we intend to support him. I voted that he was the right man when he was appointed, I'm not happy at yesterday's "performance" but he hasn't had enough time to prove himself to be the wrong man and I've still (in this short time) seen enough to convince me that, given time, he will get this right.

I'm pretty sure many others who voted "yes" initially feel exactly the same


Yes but only probably 30 regulars follow this topic constantly meaning most have left their votes as it was when he was appointed. That would be the case regardless of us winning Champion's League or getting relegated.

For the record I still think he is THE man in long term and haven't changed my vote at any stage.


everyone knows this topic is here, if they feel strongly enough to change their original vote, they will do.


Would it be alright with you though if I'd set up some sort of "Mancini, february" poll (not sticky of course) to see whether the opinions differe from this?

As bit of an anorak, I'm genuinely interested of the outcome especially after shocking defeat like against Hull. I also have hidden agenda but curiously not one that is about to causecontroversy but to just sort of see how much individual result on the background of series of good results affects the opinions.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Wonderwall » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:21 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
ant london wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:I'd suggest we start new topic and new poll. I'd be genuinely interested to hear opinion of people right now. Many people voted when he was appointed and haven't chnged their vote since so I don't reckon the results are valid anymore.

What do other people think?


Poor idea IMO

I thought the whole point of this was to provide a steady barometer as to people's feelings on Mancini.

Most of us don't see-saw one way and the other on the basis of a poor result (or two, or three). We recognise that he has many qualities (....and yes, that was also the case with Hughes) and we intend to support him. I voted that he was the right man when he was appointed, I'm not happy at yesterday's "performance" but he hasn't had enough time to prove himself to be the wrong man and I've still (in this short time) seen enough to convince me that, given time, he will get this right.

I'm pretty sure many others who voted "yes" initially feel exactly the same


Yes but only probably 30 regulars follow this topic constantly meaning most have left their votes as it was when he was appointed. That would be the case regardless of us winning Champion's League or getting relegated.

For the record I still think he is THE man in long term and haven't changed my vote at any stage.


everyone knows this topic is here, if they feel strongly enough to change their original vote, they will do.


Would it be alright with you though if I'd set up some sort of "Mancini, february" poll (not sticky of course) to see whether the opinions differe from this?

As bit of an anorak, I'm genuinely interested of the outcome especially after shocking defeat like against Hull. I also have hidden agenda but curiously not one that is about to causecontroversy but to just sort of see how much individual result on the background of series of good results affects the opinions.


Go for it mate.

The feeling will always sway towards negativity for a poor display and the total opposite for a good display. Thats why this poll will be a more accurate barometer.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby cityPinoy_fc » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:02 pm

i'm not sure i think its to early to see whether he is da man or not.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby simon12 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:38 pm

I voted No in the beginning and that was based on Italian football and how boring and negative it is. I`ve not changed my mind and I want him to change it.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby the_georgian_genius » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:50 pm

We win against Bolton - He's the man that's going to win us the League
We lose against Bolton - He's tactically inept, no change from Mark Hughes

Repeat above for the rest of the season.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:16 pm

I'm not sure I would either. Yesterday was shocking but I think we will progress with little patience.

That said, this is THE most ridiculous thing I've EVER read here and there has been few gems to choose from.

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I want Mancini to succeed particularly to kill off what I see as the 'threat' of having Jose run our club - as a candidate for manager for me he is marginally ahead of that twat Keane (said just to explain how much I do not want him as manager)






Diddums - are you feeling a bit sore?

Given that I clearly stated that I was just using the comparison with twatty as a way of amplifying that I do not want him as manager - why is my post any different from any of the others saying the same - or do you have some special filter that allows you to only read the bits of posts that you want to
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