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IS ROBERTO MANCINI THE MAN TO LEAD CITY TO THE TITLE?

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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:16 pm

How to beat Sven's teams in one easy step...
  • Pressure the ball high up field and give the defenders no option to kick it long.
  • Cos Sven's midfield played less than 10 yards further forward than the defenders this gives the opposition all the time in the world to mount attack afer attack
  • Mancini is playing Sven type tactics and we are getting battered by 3 teams who constantly press the defensive and midfield (United, Everton and now Hull)
  • PS: Ireland plays utter shite under Sven style tactics :-(
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby LeanneIsABlue..x » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:21 pm

Is Mancini THE MAN?

NO!
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby lets all have a disco » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:27 pm

Original Dub wrote:I think our style of play has gotten worse under Mancini.

But at least we're not drawing against shite teams like Hull anymore.



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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby ENIAM NAM » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:47 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:
Original Dub wrote:I think our style of play has gotten worse under Mancini.

But at least we're not drawing against shite teams like Hull anymore.



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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby edge275 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:57 pm

I hate to say it but Mancini has performed poorly in his duty as a manager the last few games. Almost Hughesesque.
"Like all bullies, they've just found out that there is a much bigger guy in town, someone who is richer and more powerful than their worst nightmare. And this smiling Arabic assassin is intent on stealing all the treasures they've nicked off everyone else, and pulverising them into commercial and footballing oblivion as he does so."
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:06 pm

edge275 wrote:I hate to say it but Mancini has performed poorly in his duty as a manager the last few games. Almost Hughesesque.


League
Stoke - Confident and controlled game
Wolves - Great counter attacking game
Blackburn - Great game
Everton - Worst of the season just ahead of Spurs away
Portsmouth - Terrible game, but good result
Hull - Not as bad as Everton away but not far off

Cup
Boro - Awful game but a 1-0 win will do with that team
Scunny - Looked soft and open at times but controlled the game
United - Failed to take advantage at home and got murdered away in the second half.

So thats 4 good performances out of 9. :-(
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby failsworthblue » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:54 pm

Quickly going backwards.

Needs to sort it out or he is going in the sumnmer.

We are blowing the biggest chance of 4th place in years.

He talked about getting a good start to this game and we were not at the races, I could have predicted how Hull would start this game.

Ireland,Barry need dropping immediately and Adebayor needs to play as a striker not a f**king right winger.

Piss poor tatics and we got what we deserved.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Dunne's Half-Time Pint » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:58 pm

edge275 wrote:I hate to say it but Mancini has performed poorly in his duty as a manager the last few games. Almost Hughesesque.


worse surely.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby edge275 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:02 pm

Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
edge275 wrote:I hate to say it but Mancini has performed poorly in his duty as a manager the last few games. Almost Hughesesque.


worse surely.


Do you think we should sack him?
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Erwin Rommel » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:41 pm

How much as the club actually benfited from the Hughes dismissal. Some of the football played as been dismal.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Dunne's Half-Time Pint » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:20 pm

edge275 wrote:
Dunne's Half-Time Pint wrote:
edge275 wrote:I hate to say it but Mancini has performed poorly in his duty as a manager the last few games. Almost Hughesesque.


worse surely.


Do you think we should sack him?


no. senseless sackings got us to where we are today.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:38 pm

Football, despite all the science people try to baffle you by, is a pretty simple game.

By motivation you can get your men thinking in the right frame of mind. By tactics you have an opportunity to deploy your resources in the best way possible, and try to either overwhelm (as top teams do) or surprise your opposition (as bottom teams do). We do neither. For the last 3/4 weeks, assuming out players are superior in talent to the opposition, clearly both tactics AND motivation have been missing.

The win against Portsmouth last week almost took me back to the Stoke home game last season when Robbie got a hat-trick. That was the game I realised that Hughes wasnt the right person for the job as despite the win, you could see quite clearly the disorganisation in the defence was not just a 1 off, and on a different day we could have been 2 down by half time. Based on this, and the tactical ineptitude of the Liverpool defeat, you could see that the manager's organisation was going to cost us. I was hammered for this at the time, by Socrates amongst others if I remember correctly. We didnt win for the next 2 months, because what I could see through a victory, clearly the opposition management saw, and were more shrewd than Hughes.

The pompey game last week set those same alarm bells ringing that we are off down the same path, and the Hull game has ramped that up for me now to a siren. I know someone has taken the piss earlier in the thread about what ifs in the pompey game, but if you are only papering over cracks, sooner or later those cracks will open up and swallow you - the cracks referred to in the pompey game came and fucked us good and proper in the arse today.

I feel a cunt for saying it, but he has it all to do from here. It took me 12-14 games to decide that Hughes would never have what it takes, helped greatly by some crass stupidity. Amazingly, although we have not had a "Gelson at left back" situation yet, I am starting to have doubts even earlier this time based purely on motivation and tactics.

The signs are ominous, and Mancini has it all to do from here. I'm right behind him for now, but he asked to be judged on results, and any more repeats of the dross served up in the last few weeks, and I will happily drive him back to Italy.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby edge275 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:01 pm

johnpb78 wrote:Football, despite all the science people try to baffle you by, is a pretty simple game.

By motivation you can get your men thinking in the right frame of mind. By tactics you have an opportunity to deploy your resources in the best way possible, and try to either overwhelm (as top teams do) or surprise your opposition (as bottom teams do). We do neither. For the last 3/4 weeks, assuming out players are superior in talent to the opposition, clearly both tactics AND motivation have been missing.

The win against Portsmouth last week almost took me back to the Stoke home game last season when Robbie got a hat-trick. That was the game I realised that Hughes wasnt the right person for the job as despite the win, you could see quite clearly the disorganisation in the defence was not just a 1 off, and on a different day we could have been 2 down by half time. Based on this, and the tactical ineptitude of the Liverpool defeat, you could see that the manager's organisation was going to cost us. I was hammered for this at the time, by Socrates amongst others if I remember correctly. We didnt win for the next 2 months, because what I could see through a victory, clearly the opposition management saw, and were more shrewd than Hughes.

The pompey game last week set those same alarm bells ringing that we are off down the same path, and the Hull game has ramped that up for me now to a siren. I know someone has taken the piss earlier in the thread about what ifs in the pompey game, but if you are only papering over cracks, sooner or later those cracks will open up and swallow you - the cracks referred to in the pompey game came and fucked us good and proper in the arse today.

I feel a cunt for saying it, but he has it all to do from here. It took me 12-14 games to decide that Hughes would never have what it takes, helped greatly by some crass stupidity. Amazingly, although we have not had a "Gelson at left back" situation yet, I am starting to have doubts even earlier this time based purely on motivation and tactics.

The signs are ominous, and Mancini has it all to do from here. I'm right behind him for now, but he asked to be judged on results, and any more repeats of the dross served up in the last few weeks, and I will happily drive him back to Italy.


Top post, that's exactly where I'm at now.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby btajim » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:20 pm

Everton Away and Man Ure Away were his two big tests so far - and we lost both. But City losing to scappy sides like Hull is nothing new. We can't be afraid to get stuck in at tough Away Games. Something we lacked last season when the likes of Robinho went missing.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby gillie » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:25 pm

edge275 wrote:
johnpb78 wrote:Football, despite all the science people try to baffle you by, is a pretty simple game.

By motivation you can get your men thinking in the right frame of mind. By tactics you have an opportunity to deploy your resources in the best way possible, and try to either overwhelm (as top teams do) or surprise your opposition (as bottom teams do). We do neither. For the last 3/4 weeks, assuming out players are superior in talent to the opposition, clearly both tactics AND motivation have been missing.

The win against Portsmouth last week almost took me back to the Stoke home game last season when Robbie got a hat-trick. That was the game I realised that Hughes wasnt the right person for the job as despite the win, you could see quite clearly the disorganisation in the defence was not just a 1 off, and on a different day we could have been 2 down by half time. Based on this, and the tactical ineptitude of the Liverpool defeat, you could see that the manager's organisation was going to cost us. I was hammered for this at the time, by Socrates amongst others if I remember correctly. We didnt win for the next 2 months, because what I could see through a victory, clearly the opposition management saw, and were more shrewd than Hughes.

The pompey game last week set those same alarm bells ringing that we are off down the same path, and the Hull game has ramped that up for me now to a siren. I know someone has taken the piss earlier in the thread about what ifs in the pompey game, but if you are only papering over cracks, sooner or later those cracks will open up and swallow you - the cracks referred to in the pompey game came and fucked us good and proper in the arse today.

I feel a cunt for saying it, but he has it all to do from here. It took me 12-14 games to decide that Hughes would never have what it takes, helped greatly by some crass stupidity. Amazingly, although we have not had a "Gelson at left back" situation yet, I am starting to have doubts even earlier this time based purely on motivation and tactics.

The signs are ominous, and Mancini has it all to do from here. I'm right behind him for now, but he asked to be judged on results, and any more repeats of the dross served up in the last few weeks, and I will happily drive him back to Italy.


Top post, that's exactly where I'm at now.

But if 2 managers are experiencing the same problems perhaps our players are not as good aswe and they think.Just a thought.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:26 pm

btajim wrote:Everton Away and Man Ure Away were his two big tests so far - and we lost both. But City losing to scappy sides like Hull is nothing new. We can't be afraid to get stuck in at tough Away Games. Something we lacked last season when the likes of Robinho went missing.


Aside from Mancini for a moment, many of our first team have come from clubs like Arsenal, Chelsea, United, Liverpool who have little trouble with these teams, yet we let these teams outmuscle and outeffort us every time, amlost as if our mamagement and players have never seen them play before.

Its criminal, and I'm not getting specifically at Mancini here, the players know the score - and the attitude shown in recent weeks, spurs, hull, everton, has been a disgrace to their club, and letting the manager and the club down.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby btajim » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:37 pm

johnpb78 wrote:Aside from Mancini for a moment, many of our first team have come from clubs like Arsenal, Chelsea, U***d, Liverpool who have little trouble with these teams, yet we let these teams outmuscle and outeffort us every time, amlost as if our mamagement and players have never seen them play before.

Its criminal, and I'm not getting specifically at Mancini here, the players know the score - and the attitude shown in recent weeks, spurs, hull, everton, has been a disgrace to their club, and letting the manager and the club down.


I liked what Hughes did in the transfer market because he brought in established Premiership talent. It was fairly obvious that they were going to have to hit the ground running as Hughes didn't have time on his side. Expectation had gone up ten fold. As patient as I tried to be, it was becoming clearer that he never really knew what his best side was and he was struggling with what to do with certain players. His sacking dismayed me but it wasn't a shock.

We need stability from top to bottom. Let things progress naturally and results will come. If Mancini has the character then we'll bounce back.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:48 pm

btajim wrote:
johnpb78 wrote:Aside from Mancini for a moment, many of our first team have come from clubs like Arsenal, Chelsea, U***d, Liverpool who have little trouble with these teams, yet we let these teams outmuscle and outeffort us every time, amlost as if our mamagement and players have never seen them play before.

Its criminal, and I'm not getting specifically at Mancini here, the players know the score - and the attitude shown in recent weeks, spurs, hull, everton, has been a disgrace to their club, and letting the manager and the club down.


I liked what Hughes did in the transfer market because he brought in established Premiership talent. It was fairly obvious that they were going to have to hit the ground running as Hughes didn't have time on his side. Expectation had gone up ten fold. As patient as I tried to be, it was becoming clearer that he never really knew what his best side was and he was struggling with what to do with certain players. His sacking dismayed me but it wasn't a shock.

We need stability from top to bottom. Let things progress naturally and results will come. If Mancini has the character then we'll bounce back.


Amen to that, just as with Hughes, even to the end of his tenure, nothing would make me more happy than to see that happen with the current manager. There were encouraging signs today, but like under Hughes, not until we went behind.

I think the mentality of the playing staff is a big issue, and someone steps upto the plate to motivate them, I think the problems will continue.

One thing for sure, again he will have found out a lot about certain of his players today.
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:35 pm

MaineRoadMemories wrote:There's no difference under Mancini as there was under Hughes, apart from a nice scarf that is. Our football as a form of entertainment has gone right down the drain.

Are you being serious there mate? I was actually enjoying the football under Hughes, even the endless draws were like a soap opera. Since Hughes, and I've mentioned this many times previously, we do not entertain, simply try to win at all costs.

If we cannot win a game, at least let the players show some creativity, let them play their natural game. I'm starting to think that Mancio is here to get us in shape for 'The Special One' type of football!?!
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Re: IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:39 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
MaineRoadMemories wrote:There's no difference under Mancini as there was under Hughes, apart from a nice scarf that is. Our football as a form of entertainment has gone right down the drain.

Are you being serious there mate? I was actually enjoying the football under Hughes, even the endless draws were like a soap opera. Since Hughes, and I've mentioned this many times previously, we do not entertain, simply try to win at all costs.

If we cannot win a game, at least let the players show some creativity, let them play their natural game. I'm starting to think that Mancio is here to get us in shape for 'The Special One' type of football!?!


If swapping Mancini for Jose was on the table at the end of the season, we would all take it now. FACT
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