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IS ROBERTO MANCINI THE MAN TO LEAD CITY TO THE TITLE?

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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby The Man In Blue » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:06 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:hmmm.


i firmly believe Hughes would have got us through that tie.

before i am pilloried, look at the last derby there. at least we got in their faces and the whole team were positive.

and scored three goals.


how many derby games did Hughes win? How many? Here he would've needed result on two games. Tell me what was his record over the rags.



at least he knew that to get anywhere against the cunts we need to attack. not sit off them like frightened fucking rabbits.

mancini has a hell of a lot to prove to me - obviously not to you.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:09 am

The Man In Blue wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:hmmm.


i firmly believe Hughes would have got us through that tie.

before i am pilloried, look at the last derby there. at least we got in their faces and the whole team were positive.

and scored three goals.


how many derby games did Hughes win? How many? Here he would've needed result on two games. Tell me what was his record over the rags.



at least he knew that to get anywhere against the cunts we need to attack. not sit off them like frightened fucking rabbits.
mancini has a hell of a lot to prove to me - obviously not to you.


Are you kidding? Derbies last season? Headlights+deer+caught

Of course he has lot to prove to lot of people. YES, I do still think he is the right man to take us forward but all this bollocks about Hughes is ridiculous. Why not go all the way and say Pearce would've won that tie. Or Alan Ball.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Kladze » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:31 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:hmmm.


i firmly believe Hughes would have got us through that tie.

before i am pilloried, look at the last derby there. at least we got in their faces and the whole team were positive.

and scored three goals.


how many derby games did Hughes win? How many? Here he would've needed result on two games. Tell me what was his record over the rags.



at least he knew that to get anywhere against the cunts we need to attack. not sit off them like frightened fucking rabbits.
mancini has a hell of a lot to prove to me - obviously not to you.


Are you kidding? Derbies last season? Headlights+deer+caught

Of course he has lot to prove to lot of people. YES, I do still think he is the right man to take us forward but all this bollocks about Hughes is ridiculous. Why not go all the way and say Pearce would've won that tie. Or Alan Ball.


I didn't want Hughes sacked but he's gone. Why keep on going over old ground? Pointless - move on.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:35 am

Kladze wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:hmmm.


i firmly believe Hughes would have got us through that tie.

before i am pilloried, look at the last derby there. at least we got in their faces and the whole team were positive.

and scored three goals.


how many derby games did Hughes win? How many? Here he would've needed result on two games. Tell me what was his record over the rags.



at least he knew that to get anywhere against the cunts we need to attack. not sit off them like frightened fucking rabbits.
mancini has a hell of a lot to prove to me - obviously not to you.


Are you kidding? Derbies last season? Headlights+deer+caught

Of course he has lot to prove to lot of people. YES, I do still think he is the right man to take us forward but all this bollocks about Hughes is ridiculous. Why not go all the way and say Pearce would've won that tie. Or Alan Ball.


I didn't want Hughes sacked but he's gone. Why keep on going over old ground? Pointless - move on.


For once I agree with you.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Kladze » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:41 am

There's a first time for everything Antii ;-)
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby CityFanFromRome » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:05 am

I'm amazed at people thinking we would even have had a chance with Hughes in charge, considering who was available for the first leg. With Hughes in charge we would have lost at home, and thus made the trip to the swamp useless. With Mancini we won the first leg (Hughes didn't win a derby as our manager, did he?) and looked the best team for half of the second, and probably we should have put it to bed last night in the first half. I really can't understand why people keep complaining about sitting back in the first leg, or about anything done by Mancini last night, to be honest. What would have you done in the first leg with SWP just back from injury and thus unable to last 90 minutes, and only Benjani on the bench as an attacking sub for Tevez who was barely standing on his feet so much he was tired when he was subbed? Who would have you played in midfield with Ireland out for injury (and it's not like he turned the world on fire last night when he came on, anyway)?

What would have you done last night different from what he did, apart maybe playing Nedum instead of Boyata, who anyway did his job quite well imho? I've read someone claiming we should have put Petrov on. Maybe, but was a game like last night one where Petrov would have done well, considering how physical it was? He would have disappeared after the first tackle by a rag, I'm positive of it, so I really don't see many alternatives there either.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby dikdik » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:20 am

Good post cfr.
People don't appreciate the task Mancini had last night with all our injuries, physical and emotional.
The fact that we took them right to the wire with all their A team and, let's be honest only about half of ours, speaks volumes for the progress we have made and are making.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:22 am

After a night to sleep on it, and after the beers wore off, I have changed my view back to 'Not Sure'. Being a City supporter, we always have hope, but from the tactics again last night, I am still very unsure about the way he sets the team up. To sit back so deep allowing teams to stream into our half unopposed, does not sit to well with me. Last night, United could have had the game sewn up with 20 minutes to play after the numerous chances they had (Rooney, Carrick etc), and it was only their poor finishing that kept us in it.

Can I add though, that their first 2 goals came from 2 very dubious incidents. The first was obviously when Bellers got pelted, where the team switched off and the ball was in our net straight from the corner. The second came as a result of the Micah/Fletcher tussle, again the team switching off. That is something I don't put down to Mancio, but down to the players on the pitch.

Hopefully with players coming back, the tactics will change, or maybe we'll just see very defensive minded displays. As long as we get the points though.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Original Dub » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:53 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:hmmm.


i firmly believe Hughes would have got us through that tie.

before i am pilloried, look at the last derby there. at least we got in their faces and the whole team were positive.

and scored three goals.


how many derby games did Hughes win? How many? Here he would've needed result on two games. Tell me what was his record over the rags.



at least he knew that to get anywhere against the cunts we need to attack. not sit off them like frightened fucking rabbits.
mancini has a hell of a lot to prove to me - obviously not to you.


Are you kidding? Derbies last season? Headlights+deer+caught

Of course he has lot to prove to lot of people. YES, I do still think he is the right man to take us forward but all this bollocks about Hughes is ridiculous. Why not go all the way and say Pearce would've won that tie. Or Alan Ball.


I'm for Mancini as I said, but comparing our team from last season to the one from this season is fucking daft.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:56 am

Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:hmmm.


i firmly believe Hughes would have got us through that tie.

before i am pilloried, look at the last derby there. at least we got in their faces and the whole team were positive.

and scored three goals.


how many derby games did Hughes win? How many? Here he would've needed result on two games. Tell me what was his record over the rags.



at least he knew that to get anywhere against the cunts we need to attack. not sit off them like frightened fucking rabbits.
mancini has a hell of a lot to prove to me - obviously not to you.


Are you kidding? Derbies last season? Headlights+deer+caught

Of course he has lot to prove to lot of people. YES, I do still think he is the right man to take us forward but all this bollocks about Hughes is ridiculous. Why not go all the way and say Pearce would've won that tie. Or Alan Ball.


I'm for Mancini as I said, but comparing our team from last season to the one from this season is fucking daft.


To be fair, any comparison between Hughes and Mancini at this stage is fucking daft. Hughes is gone and he is not coming back.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Original Dub » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:04 pm

He certainly isn't coming back.

However, if we can't draw comparrisons between performances under our last manager to those under our current manager... can you tell me how it is that we CAN draw comparrisons at all?

Its not daft to compare your current manager to the last, but it is daft to compare the team we had from last season to the one we have now. fucking CRAZY!
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:14 pm

Original Dub wrote:He certainly isn't coming back.

However, if we can't draw comparrisons between performances under our last manager to those under our current manager... can you tell me how it is that we CAN draw comparrisons at all?

Its not daft to compare your current manager to the last, but it is daft to compare the team we had from last season to the one we have now. fucking CRAZY!


Mate, let's have this argument some other day. I feel so emotionally drained that I'm simply not up for it. Doesn't happen often that, does it?
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Original Dub » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:26 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Original Dub wrote:He certainly isn't coming back.

However, if we can't draw comparrisons between performances under our last manager to those under our current manager... can you tell me how it is that we CAN draw comparrisons at all?

Its not daft to compare your current manager to the last, but it is daft to compare the team we had from last season to the one we have now. fucking CRAZY!


Mate, let's have this argument some other day. I feel so emotionally drained that I'm simply not up for it. Doesn't happen often that, does it?


That's fucking crazy, I swear to God I was about to post the same thing when I saw you'd added to the thread!

Its so tough today. The sooner we get to the Pompey game the better.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Fidel Castro » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:53 pm

All this bollocks about us missing too many players. Leeds (FUCLIN LEEDS!!) beat scum at the swamp. How? They got in their faces, weren't scared and didn't let them steam through midfield unopposed.

We show those cunts far too much respect
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby The Man In Blue » Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:03 pm

look lads, sorry bout the earlier posts on this page. when i posted last night i was drunk and furious, this morning i was hungover and gutted.

forget Hughes - but the issue of sitting off the fuckers stands for me. that is what cost us the tie, the reluctance to attack them in the home leg. it was so frustrating watching us sit off and continually gift them posession. maybe some of the players we have are not as good as we thought they were, or maaybe Mancini just ain't got through to them yet.

on the plus side, i thought micah was immense last night, and Boyata looks like he's not around just to be backup. Tbh i hope Mancio sticks with him.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby ronk » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:02 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:After a night to sleep on it, and after the beers wore off, I have changed my view back to 'Not Sure'. Being a City supporter, we always have hope, but from the tactics again last night, I am still very unsure about the way he sets the team up. To sit back so deep allowing teams to stream into our half unopposed, does not sit to well with me. Last night, U***d could have had the game sewn up with 20 minutes to play after the numerous chances they had (Rooney, Carrick etc), and it was only their poor finishing that kept us in it.

Can I add though, that their first 2 goals came from 2 very dubious incidents. The first was obviously when Bellers got pelted, where the team switched off and the ball was in our net straight from the corner. The second came as a result of the Micah/Fletcher tussle, again the team switching off. That is something I don't put down to Mancio, but down to the players on the pitch.

Hopefully with players coming back, the tactics will change, or maybe we'll just see very defensive minded displays. As long as we get the points though.


I had noticed that. Hopefully, we'll learn a lesson from this and be better prepared for that trick next time.

They rattled us for 10 minutes and punished us. Then at the end they upped their game and we didn't soak the pressure effectively. All that said it was a game that could have gone either way. We had the better chances in the first half and they really only hurt us from half chances.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby CityFanFromRome » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:41 pm

Fidel Castro wrote:All this bollocks about us missing too many players. Leeds (FUCLIN LEEDS!!) beat scum at the swamp. How? They got in their faces, weren't scared and didn't let them steam through midfield unopposed.

We show those cunts far too much respect

It's not only a matter of missing players though, it's a matter of missing players all in the same role. You can't play attacking players if you don't have them, and you can't attack the other team if you don't play attacking players. It's simple, and it is exactly what forced us to sit back in the first leg. We only had Tevez, Bellamy and Benjani as fully fit attacking players, unless we count Petrov and Robinho who for different but clear reasons couldn't be used that night (one is a bit of a pussy and the other is not interested, so you surely didn't want him on the pitch in that game?).

Leeds might have less quality, but they didn't miss so many attacking players to leave them without options up front. At least, this is how I see it, but of course anyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Original Dub » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:53 pm

CityFanFromRome wrote:
Fidel Castro wrote:All this bollocks about us missing too many players. Leeds (FUCLIN LEEDS!!) beat scum at the swamp. How? They got in their faces, weren't scared and didn't let them steam through midfield unopposed.

We show those cunts far too much respect

It's not only a matter of missing players though, it's a matter of missing players all in the same role. You can't play attacking players if you don't have them, and you can't attack the other team if you don't play attacking players. It's simple, and it is exactly what forced us to sit back in the first leg. We only had Tevez, Bellamy and Benjani as fully fit attacking players, unless we count Petrov and Robinho who for different but clear reasons couldn't be used that night (one is a bit of a pussy and the other is not interested, so you surely didn't want him on the pitch in that game?).

Leeds might have less quality, but they didn't miss so many attacking players to leave them without options up front. At least, this is how I see it, but of course anyone is entitled to their opinion.


Transfer window is running out.... if its that glaringly obvious, I'm sure Mancini is trying his best to get in top top quality attacking players...
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby CityFanFromRome » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:13 pm

Original Dub wrote:
CityFanFromRome wrote:
Fidel Castro wrote:All this bollocks about us missing too many players. Leeds (FUCLIN LEEDS!!) beat scum at the swamp. How? They got in their faces, weren't scared and didn't let them steam through midfield unopposed.

We show those cunts far too much respect

It's not only a matter of missing players though, it's a matter of missing players all in the same role. You can't play attacking players if you don't have them, and you can't attack the other team if you don't play attacking players. It's simple, and it is exactly what forced us to sit back in the first leg. We only had Tevez, Bellamy and Benjani as fully fit attacking players, unless we count Petrov and Robinho who for different but clear reasons couldn't be used that night (one is a bit of a pussy and the other is not interested, so you surely didn't want him on the pitch in that game?).

Leeds might have less quality, but they didn't miss so many attacking players to leave them without options up front. At least, this is how I see it, but of course anyone is entitled to their opinion.


Transfer window is running out.... if its that glaringly obvious, I'm sure Mancini is trying his best to get in top top quality attacking players...

The rumours about Johnson and Moses hopefully will come true, those are two option it can't hurt us to have now that Robson is officially gone to Santos for six months.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Renato_CTID » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:19 pm

Not sure Ireland on the bench was a good option yesterday at the swamp.
And not sure too Garrido was the right man to be replaced by Superman!
Apart for this we only have to thank Mancio for the correct mentality he's giving to our squad.
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