Tokyo Blue wrote:Whatever happens tomorrow night, we need to play our best team v arse on Sunday. Beat them and we are third going into the final round of games.
johnny99 wrote:We need to beat arsenal
Don't give a fuck about anything else to be honest
PrezIke wrote:johnny99 wrote:We need to beat arsenal
Don't give a fuck about anything else to be honest
Not trying to be a pain, but this logic strikes me as a bit odd if I am understanding correctly.
So, one doesn't care about the CL, but does care about winning games that have no effect on actually winning the league, and can only help the team get back into the CL, a competition you don't care for?
Is getting 3rd or 4th really something that is more important? Or is it just to not finish below United? If that's all that it's about, I guess I can understand that, but that's not the primary motivating factor for the players or manager if they are in the Semis of the CL with a chance to make the Final with a scoring draw.
I get that it's in fans' interest for top players to want to join us, which being in the CL allows for. However, the players and manager (not just the board) want to win that competition, so seems like some of us are okay with the club hoodwinking players into joining us, but then become upset when they care about winning a competition that we want to be in to attract their interest in joining the club.
This is why I am not down with the CL haterade, other than the legitimate resentment towards UEFA from our fans for how we have been treated via FFP, refereeing in some games, and of course the stadium ban fiasco. Other than those reasons, not caring about how we perform in CL feels like not respecting what our own players want, who are competitors at the highest level, and are happy to "trick" them into joining our club.
PrezIke wrote:johnny99 wrote:We need to beat arsenal
Don't give a fuck about anything else to be honest
Not trying to be a pain, but this logic strikes me as a bit odd if I am understanding correctly.
So, one doesn't care about the CL, but does care about winning games that have no effect on actually winning the league, and can only help the team get back into the CL, a competition you don't care for?
Is getting 3rd or 4th really something that is more important? Or is it just to not finish below United? If that's all that it's about, I guess I can understand that, but that's not the primary motivating factor for the players or manager if they are in the Semis of the CL with a chance to make the Final with a scoring draw.
I get that it's in fans' interest for top players to want to join us, which being in the CL allows for. However, the players and manager (not just the board) want to win that competition, so seems like some of us are okay with the club hoodwinking players into joining us, but then become upset when they care about winning a competition that we want to be in to attract their interest in joining the club.
This is why I am not down with the CL haterade, other than the legitimate resentment towards UEFA from our fans for how we have been treated via FFP, refereeing in some games, and of course the stadium ban fiasco. Other than those reasons, not caring about how we perform in CL feels like not respecting what our own players want, who are competitors at the highest level, and are happy to "trick" them into joining our club.
london blue 2 wrote:How are we positioned in the fairplay league?
johnny99 wrote:We need to beat arsenal
Don't give a fuck about anything else to be honest
nottsblue wrote:Massive game on Sunday now. Regretfully, i think we will be outplayed and the best we can hope for is a draw. Arsenal know a win guarantees third and they can still catch spurs which they will want to do.
Our boys looked fucked at the end last night. The season has really caught up with a few of them. I am usually awful at predictions so hopefully we get the result but i would be surprised
Tokyo Blue wrote:Apparently it is anthony taylor, the "altrincham" fan.
Well, that puts a very different perspective on it.
If any of you read the article on the BBC about who the refs support, it was noticeable that not one of them claims to support any of the six or seven best supported clubs in the country except gamblingdebttenburg who supports the barcodes. Are we to believe there is not one manchester united fan among the lot of them? Not one arsenal, chelsea, everton or tottenham fan? Or even a City fan?
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36075347
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