IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

[Rag_hater]

You say "that youre making no assumptions just anticipating" that if we dont make the CL this year we will not be able to get the money from it on the books.For a cerebrally challenged awkward b*****d like me that infers that youre trying to tell me with your mighty intellect, that by assuming you mean you are taking for granted and expecting (by anticipating) that we will not be allowed in the CL unless we make it this year.Then you go on to say that because we now have Mancini top 4 is not a priority this year because the Chosen one has to be given as much time as he needs.The emerency to get in the CL this year has somehow dissappated.
So dont lie Bastard.

Oh for Sky Fairies sake you are just too fucking thick for me to waste my time on. Happily our owners do understand these issues that are so obviously beyond you. You cannot understand a concept as simple as recognising a threat and responding by preparing for the worst case scenario that that threat could produce. I am embarrassed for you.

The feelings mutual.
A threat that doesn't exist, at the moment and is not going to be around for years.
A threat that can be easily overcome.So easily overcome that you want your Chosen one to be given as much time as it takes for him to be a success,because the threat is so minor.

Mate I think what Socrates is trying to say is that although it is of great importance we get in the Champions League this year if for any reason we didn't Mancini may well still be one of (if not the) the best managers we could have to go into next season with.

It may well be the case that Mancini is the best thing since sliced bread and if we dont get in the CL this year he will be best equipped to take us there.However some of us might not think that especially as he will have failed to do the job he was brought into do.
Now Mr. Socs is back to saying there is a threat.A threat that he can see along with the Sheikh.A threat it seems Mancini was brought into address.A threat that it seems Hughes was failing to address(the reason for his sacking,apparently).A threat that will be nullified if we make 4th this year.A threat that could stop us spending any money if it not addressed.I'm sure Mr.Socs can see and tell us more of the threat but I'm sure you get the gist.
However the threat can be ignored if the Chosen one fails in addressing it, because although it seems that what he was hired for everything will be ok because the threat will somehow not be as serious if he fails.

[wolfcity]

It's a good start from Mancini because we're looking at 4 wins and 4 clean sheets so far - but it's Games that any Manager with such a Squad would be expected to win.

Can he win the League with City? I honestly don't know. Arsenal haven't won a Pot in 5 seasons and Liverpool are yet to lift the Premiership. Will our Club ever have the patience to stick with a Man? I honestly don't know!

[Original Dub]

He's passed the first test - how to do away with the stubborn clogger types without having to break a sweat.

If we perform against the top four sides like we did this season under hughes, then we can win the league with this man, no doubt about it.

I'm starting to believe we are going to at least go toe for toe with united all the way.... chelsea might be a bridge to far, but I refuse to discount anything. So fucking excited and genuinely convinced we are a top side for the first time in my whole life.

And I could get used to this! :)))))))

[Chopper]

Amen to that. I think we will get some sort of silverware this year.

[john@staustell]

It's a good start from Mancini because we're looking at 4 wins and 4 clean sheets so far - but it's Games that any Manager with such a Squad would be expected to win.

You've been listening to too many media goons wolfie. You could say the same about the Hull, Bolton and Burnley games, to name just a few, plus our winning positions against Liverpool and Fulham. Our last manager couldn't. Surely you can see the difference in the way the team is being set out and performing?

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

Wil JF be calling him WWWWoberto?

[eastlandsblue]

This thread was given a big mention on Blue Tuesday (gmr) Edge also got a special mention. Ian Cheeseman wants those who voted no to text the show and explain yourselfs

[edge275]

This thread was given a big mention on Blue Tuesday (gmr) Edge also got a special mention. Ian Cheeseman wants those who voted no to text the show and explain yourselfs

Can you elaborate further please?

[Socrates]

Wil JF be calling him WWWWoberto?

Ranker ;o)

[eastlandsblue]

This thread was given a big mention on Blue Tuesday (gmr) Edge also got a special mention. Ian Cheeseman wants those who voted no to text the show and explain yourselfs

Can you elaborate further please?

Jenny quoted what your wrote mate, after your'e vote. They were bemused with the 23 who voted NO

[Original Dub]

Everton will be a serious test for Mancini I think. They're hitting good form, they're not quite "big" enough for us to automatically raise our game for and they are tough to break down.

I really don't know what way this will go and I can't say I'm comfortable these days ever saying I'd be happy with a draw before any game, but we'll have our work cut out and it could be the typical game that is won on tactics, rather than players on paper.

On a side note, our attacking football doesn't seem to be suffering so far and I hope its not like the early Sven days, where I felt like we were a fluid, passing side, but as time went on, Sven's influence took hold and we became more negative.

I know Mancini has a rep for playing attack minded football and that's great news for me, but what I'm trying to get at is that three games in is too early to say we are now witnessing Mancini's style in all its glory.

Onwards and upwards I hope!!

[CityFanFromRome]

I know Mancini has a rep for playing attack minded football and that's great news for me, but what I'm trying to get at is that three games in is too early to say we are now witnessing Mancini's style in all its glory.

Definitely, also because he doesn't have all the players available so maybe his tactics could change a bit from what we've seen so far when he does.

I agree that Everton is going to be a tough test, but I'm confident we can snatch the win once again, as long as we can keep Cahill and Fellaini quiet (this last one on the headers most of all). Is Arteta back for them? If he is, he's another one we need to watch closely.

[wolfcity]

You've been listening to too many media goons wolfie. You could say the same about the Hull, Bolton and Burnley games, to name just a few, plus our winning positions against Liverpool and Fulham. Our last manager couldn't. Surely you can see the difference in the way the team is being set out and performing?

Surely the media told us that Hughes was sacked due to the "trajectory of recent results" etc? Horses mouth. For what it's worth, I was frustrated with all the draws and was ultimately not surprised when the change of Manager was made. However, my point was that Mancini has achieved the basics in getting results that the Squad should be delivering (with some great performances) and we now look forwards to a legendary Carling Cup Semi and tougher Matches at Everton etc.

I do actually agree with you.

p.s. I also see you posting on the Manchester Online City section. You must get around.

[john@staustell]

You've been listening to too many media goons wolfie. You could say the same about the Hull, Bolton and Burnley games, to name just a few, plus our winning positions against Liverpool and Fulham. Our last manager couldn't. Surely you can see the difference in the way the team is being set out and performing?

Surely the media told us that Hughes was sacked due to the "trajectory of recent results" etc? Horses mouth. For what it's worth, I was frustrated with all the draws and was ultimately not surprised when the change of Manager was made. However, my point was that Mancini has achieved the basics in getting results that the Squad should be delivering (with some great performances) and we now look forwards to a legendary Carling Cup Semi and tougher Matches at Everton etc.

I do actually agree with you.

p.s. I also see you posting on the Manchester Online City section. You must get around.

I understand your points mate.

Yes I get around, same username more or less on MUEN, TEAMTALK, Bluemoan(only when our site is down), SKY 459 letters page, the now-defunct ITV letters page, 'keeping our end up' so to speak. I dont skulk about and change usernames like some, and anyone who wants a chat can usually ask for me at the Britannia Inn, near St Austell when they're on holiday! If I'm not working I can sometimes be found there of an afternoon, or on request! :)

But Mancityfans is the only one I use all the time, the others I'm just passing through to attack any bollox!! By far the best. By a long, long way.

[Original Dub]

You've been listening to too many media goons wolfie. You could say the same about the Hull, Bolton and Burnley games, to name just a few, plus our winning positions against Liverpool and Fulham. Our last manager couldn't. Surely you can see the difference in the way the team is being set out and performing?

Surely the media told us that Hughes was sacked due to the "trajectory of recent results" etc? Horses mouth. For what it's worth, I was frustrated with all the draws and was ultimately not surprised when the change of Manager was made. However, my point was that Mancini has achieved the basics in getting results that the Squad should be delivering (with some great performances) and we now look forwards to a legendary Carling Cup Semi and tougher Matches at Everton etc.

I do actually agree with you.

p.s. I also see you posting on the Manchester Online City section. You must get around.

I understand your points mate.

Yes I get around, same username more or less on MUEN, TEAMTALK, Bluemoan(only when our site is down), SKY 459 letters page, the now-defunct ITV letters page, 'keeping our end up' so to speak. I dont skulk about and change usernames like some, and anyone who wants a chat can usually ask for me at the Britannia Inn, near St Austell when they're on holiday! If I'm not working I can sometimes be found there of an afternoon, or on request! :)

But Mancityfans is the only one I use all the time, the others I'm just passing through to attack any bollox!! By far the best. By a long, long way.

Jesus John you ARE a right forum slut, aren't ya? ;)

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Everton will be a serious test for Mancini I think. They're hitting good form, they're not quite "big" enough for us to automatically raise our game for and they are tough to break down.

I really don't know what way this will go and I can't say I'm comfortable these days ever saying I'd be happy with a draw before any game, but we'll have our work cut out and it could be the typical game that is won on tactics, rather than players on paper.

On a side note, our attacking football doesn't seem to be suffering so far and I hope its not like the early Sven days, where I felt like we were a fluid, passing side, but as time went on, Sven's influence took hold and we became more negative.
I know Mancini has a rep for playing attack minded football and that's great news for me, but what I'm trying to get at is that three games in is too early to say we are now witnessing Mancini's style in all its glory.

Onwards and upwards I hope!!

Yeah, because before Sven we were witnessing attacking and fluid football under Pearce.

[Original Dub]

Everton will be a serious test for Mancini I think. They're hitting good form, they're not quite "big" enough for us to automatically raise our game for and they are tough to break down.

I really don't know what way this will go and I can't say I'm comfortable these days ever saying I'd be happy with a draw before any game, but we'll have our work cut out and it could be the typical game that is won on tactics, rather than players on paper.

On a side note, our attacking football doesn't seem to be suffering so far and I hope its not like the early Sven days, where I felt like we were a fluid, passing side, but as time went on, Sven's influence took hold and we became more negative.
I know Mancini has a rep for playing attack minded football and that's great news for me, but what I'm trying to get at is that three games in is too early to say we are now witnessing Mancini's style in all its glory.

Onwards and upwards I hope!!

Yeah, because before Sven we were witnessing attacking and fluid football under Pearce.

What exactly has Pearce got to do with anything I said?

I feel I can analyse the beautful game as much as the next lad and in my honest opinion, Sven's teams were always negative and cagey. However, in his first couple of months at city, I found our style to be a lot more fluid than I had expected.... but as time wore on I began to see the Sven's real style take hold and I didn't particularly enjoy it.

That is not a stab at Sven, because his style won him and his teams plenty of trophies.... but I think its a fair observation.

As for Pearce, well I commented on what I thought of our stuart and although I'll agree they were most definitely the dark days, I don't hold him solely responsible because out of the last four managers, he's the one who wasn't given a pot to piss in to be able to purchase decent signings that could fit inot his system.

I don't think he would have been the answer by any stretch. but he kept a pretty shitty city (d'ya like that?!) team in the prem and I'm grateful to him for that.

ALL of that aside, like I said, I didn't want to open a debate on Sven etc, it was just that I was trying to say it takes a good few games before the REAL style of a manager comes shining through.

Would you agree with that?

[Colin the King]

What exactly has Pearce got to do with anything I said?

I feel I can analyse the beautful game as much as the next lad and in my honest opinion, Sven's teams were always negative and cagey. However, in his first couple of months at city, I found our style to be a lot more fluid than I had expected.... but as time wore on I began to see the Sven's real style take hold and I didn't particularly enjoy it.

That is not a stab at Sven, because his style won him and his teams plenty of trophies.... but I think its a fair observation.

As for Pearce, well I commented on what I thought of our stuart and although I'll agree they were most definitely the dark days, I don't hold him solely responsible because out of the last four managers, he's the one who wasn't given a pot to piss in to be able to purchase decent signings that could fit inot his system.

I don't think he would have been the answer by any stretch. but he kept a pretty shitty city (d'ya like that?!) team in the prem and I'm grateful to him for that.

ALL of that aside, like I said, I didn't want to open a debate on Sven etc, it was just that I was trying to say it takes a good few games before the REAL style of a manager comes shining through.

Would you agree with that?

The difference is that Sven had a reputation for cautious and fairly defensive football so there was always a likelihood of that prevailing, whereas Mancini has built up a reputation for a creative, attack-minded approach. I don't think he'll be playing 4-5-1 and have us passing in triangles around our own six yard box any time soon, somehow.

[Original Dub]

What exactly has Pearce got to do with anything I said?

I feel I can analyse the beautful game as much as the next lad and in my honest opinion, Sven's teams were always negative and cagey. However, in his first couple of months at city, I found our style to be a lot more fluid than I had expected.... but as time wore on I began to see the Sven's real style take hold and I didn't particularly enjoy it.

That is not a stab at Sven, because his style won him and his teams plenty of trophies.... but I think its a fair observation.

As for Pearce, well I commented on what I thought of our stuart and although I'll agree they were most definitely the dark days, I don't hold him solely responsible because out of the last four managers, he's the one who wasn't given a pot to piss in to be able to purchase decent signings that could fit inot his system.

I don't think he would have been the answer by any stretch. but he kept a pretty shitty city (d'ya like that?!) team in the prem and I'm grateful to him for that.

ALL of that aside, like I said, I didn't want to open a debate on Sven etc, it was just that I was trying to say it takes a good few games before the REAL style of a manager comes shining through.

Would you agree with that?

The difference is that Sven had a reputation for cautious and fairly defensive football so there was always a likelihood of that prevailing, whereas Mancini has built up a reputation for a creative, attack-minded approach. I don't think he'll be playing 4-5-1 and have us passing in triangles around our own six yard box any time soon, somehow.

I agree fully mate. I was saying that in my OP on this part of the subject... my point was that if we are seeing Mancini's style football its probably more coincidental and a little lucky so far because it generally takes a couple of months before the manager has his full influence on the team.

That's why I used Sven as an example... but I didn't for one second think Mancini will end up having us play that negatively. Please God no!

[Original Dub]

I said this in the other thread and I know he's trying to find out who his best players are and where to play them.

But playing right wingers on the left and left wingers on the right when they're both around the 30 years old mark is not going to uncover a gem that should have been played there all along.

SWP is a right winger that CAN be played in the middle if need be. Petrov is a left winger.

I hope this is sorted for tuesday I really do. I want Mancini to be with us for 20 years because that'll mean we're dominating.

But if we lose in the same manner on Tuesday its going to be hard to justify why Hughes was replaced.

That's not as a "hughes lover", because if you read above I'm now a Mancini lover... its just rational thinking.

Fingers crossed!