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Postby nottsblue » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:26 pm

If he's playing at the weekend, what chance an injury? My money is on a move to Bayern next season as it goes. We shall see
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Postby trueblue64 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:28 pm

Its just been changed it was suspended.
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Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:57 pm

And Bet Fred have ready paid out on him signing for the rags.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby blues2win » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:30 pm

Sport Bild say the move to City is imminent. De Bruyne's agent says he's spoken to Aloffs and a solution is being sought between the Clubs. I really don't think there's much doubt this will happen and I doubt it will go right to the wire because Wolfsburg need time to spend the cash. De Bruyne at least through his agent has made it very clear to Wolfsburg he wants to make the move.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby Tim777 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:33 pm

blues2win wrote:Sport Bild say the move to City is imminent. De Bruyne's agent says he's spoken to Aloffs and a solution is being sought between the Clubs. I really don't think there's much doubt this will happen and I doubt it will go right to the wire because Wolfsburg need time to spend the cash. De Bruyne at least through his agent has made it very clear to Wolfsburg he wants to make the move.


But correct me if I'm wrong - the payment would be spread over the period of his contract according to this thread article viewtopic.php?f=119&t=50468 (refer to the point re. "amortisation") so Wolfsburg would have to wait a mighty long time to spend it all.
Unless it's done in such a way that, either it's taken as a full payment to Wolfsburg and CFG settles over the contract period but reflects on both parties' books as a full credit and debit respectively, or Wolfsburg is able to make deals with CFG's pro-rata money to another club with the same payment arrangement as the preceding deal.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby Socrates » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:36 am

Tim777 wrote:
blues2win wrote:Sport Bild say the move to City is imminent. De Bruyne's agent says he's spoken to Aloffs and a solution is being sought between the Clubs. I really don't think there's much doubt this will happen and I doubt it will go right to the wire because Wolfsburg need time to spend the cash. De Bruyne at least through his agent has made it very clear to Wolfsburg he wants to make the move.


But correct me if I'm wrong - the payment would be spread over the period of his contract according to this thread article viewtopic.php?f=119&t=50468 (refer to the point re. "amortisation") so Wolfsburg would have to wait a mighty long time to spend it all.
Unless it's done in such a way that, either it's taken as a full payment to Wolfsburg and CFG settles over the contract period but reflects on both parties' books as a full credit and debit respectively, or Wolfsburg is able to make deals with CFG's pro-rata money to another club with the same payment arrangement as the preceding deal.


I have no idea what you are getting at? Amortisation is spread over the contract regardless of when or how actual payments are made. The cost of acquiring the "asset" is spread over it's useful life when it comes to calculating profit and loss. This is the same whether you pay cash upfront or buy on credit. Is kind of irrelevant anyway as even if we paid instalments so could they on buying a replacement.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:42 am

Wolfsburg are looking to bang a 30 millions offer in for Mertens at Napoli.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby blues2win » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:56 am

I imagine City can book the payments to Wolfsburg over the life of the contract for FFP purposes but I cant imagine Wolfsburg themselves would accept anything less than a very significant amount up front. However the negotiations aren't just a question of a particular amount of money but also bonus payments and what conditions would apply to them as well as how much up front and when the balance would be paid.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby ruralblue » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:58 am

I am not giving second thought to the the ffp or financial side of things. A. I'm thick and b. I am sure the bean counters have everything covered and working well within our means.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby mr_nool » Fri Aug 21, 2015 8:03 am

lets all have a disco wrote:Wolfsburg are looking to bang a 30 millions offer in for Mertens at Napoli.


Hmm ... No better than Navas in my opinion.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:17 am

mr_nool wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Wolfsburg are looking to bang a 30 millions offer in for Mertens at Napoli.


Hmm ... No better than Navas in my opinion.



I dont care how they spend it as long as this saga gets wrapped up.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby mr_nool » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:45 am

lets all have a disco wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Wolfsburg are looking to bang a 30 millions offer in for Mertens at Napoli.


Hmm ... No better than Navas in my opinion.



I dont care how they spend it as long as this saga gets wrapped up.


Sorry mate, I read that completely wrong. I though we were in for Mertens as a back up plan if the the KDB deal wouldn't go through.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:44 pm

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/9959569/manchester-city-close-on-163504m-kevin-de-bruyne-sky-germany


Manchester City reportedly agree £50.4m fee for Kevin De Bruyne

Last Updated: 21/08/15 4:19pm

Kevin De Bruyne may be heading to Manchester City for a fee in excess of £50m
Kevin De Bruyne may be heading to Manchester City for a fee in excess of £50m

Bild newspaper are reporting that Manchester City have reached agreement on a fee for Wolfsburg's Belgium international attacking midfielder Kevin De Bruyne.

The 24-year-old is said to be on his way to Manchester for a fee believed to be 70m euros (£50.4m).

Bild added that De Bruyne trained with his current club on Friday morning and is in their squad for the Bundesliga match at Cologne on Saturday.

Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini was asked about the potential deal on Friday but refused to be drawn.

"I don't talk about rumours," he said. "I have to talk about so many players, it is impossible. When things are finished, then I can talk about them.

"The window closes on 1 September. Before that, nobody knows what happens."

City are understood to have made a £47m offer for the former Chelsea player last week but there have been no developments since then.

Pellegrini's men have made a good start to the season, winning both of their first two Premier League matches 3-0.

And City have been big players in the transfer market this summer, as they look to recapture the Premier League title, having acquired forward Raheem Sterling from Liverpool, defender Nicolas Otamendi from Valencia, and midfielder Fabian Delph from Aston Villa, among others.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby blues2win » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:48 pm

I think talk of a deal is a little premature. He hasn't been pulled from the squad for Cologne yet at any rate. Wolfsburg are playing hardball to get the maximum but I'd be surprised if a fee isn't agreed at the beginning of next week.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby KinkyKinkladze » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:02 pm

Fifty fucking mill. Outrageous we've agreed to pay that.

I know I've been negative over this transfer since the beginning but I really do not see him being worth even half that.

I really would love to be proved wrong though so over to you kev, show me up to be a mong, I beg thee.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby CTID Hants » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:08 pm

Cocacolajojo wrote:http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/9959569/manchester-city-close-on-163504m-kevin-de-bruyne-sky-germany


Manchester City reportedly agree £50.4m fee for Kevin De Bruyne

Last Updated: 21/08/15 4:19pm

Kevin De Bruyne may be heading to Manchester City for a fee in excess of £50m
Kevin De Bruyne may be heading to Manchester City for a fee in excess of £50m

Bild newspaper are reporting that Manchester City have reached agreement on a fee for Wolfsburg's Belgium international attacking midfielder Kevin De Bruyne.

The 24-year-old is said to be on his way to Manchester for a fee believed to be 70m euros (£50.4m).

Bild added that De Bruyne trained with his current club on Friday morning and is in their squad for the Bundesliga match at Cologne on Saturday.

Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini was asked about the potential deal on Friday but refused to be drawn.

"I don't talk about rumours," he said. "I have to talk about so many players, it is impossible. When things are finished, then I can talk about them.

"The window closes on 1 September. Before that, nobody knows what happens."

City are understood to have made a £47m offer for the former Chelsea player last week but there have been no developments since then.

Pellegrini's men have made a good start to the season, winning both of their first two Premier League matches 3-0.

And City have been big players in the transfer market this summer, as they look to recapture the Premier League title, having acquired forward Raheem Sterling from Liverpool, defender Nicolas Otamendi from Valencia, and midfielder Fabian Delph from Aston Villa, among others.


I was going to report that earlier, but if you track down the article to Bild's web site it was written yesterday evening @ 20:12 and it is tenuous at best, hence Sky and everyone else citing Bild as the source...........

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/nachg ... .bild.html should auto translate, but if not...

It indicates just about everything out that Wolfsburg's super-star Kevin De Bruyne to Manchester City will change. And that with 70 million euros plus X, a new Bundesliga record transfer will go on the stage.
Since many questions: Did I clicked not just a video on the Internet, on the De Bruyne has filed a loyalty commitment per Wolfsburg at SPORT BILD Award in Hamburg as the winner ("Star of the Year")?
"I, Kevin De Bruyne will, definitely stay at VfL Wolfsburg this season," he said, according to the sentence of the moderator Alexander Bommes. He had been lured into a trap, it was said afterwards of some who were not even there.
The truth is: In this sentence there had been a classic interview. They talked about the cup-Los Wolfsburg vs. Bayern. And as Bommes asked if he would still be in this game, because in October it replied De Bruyne: "Of course!" So no more questions ...
Could he say anything else because an agreement was still miles away with Manchester City? Does he really know what is happening to him and around him?
His advisers De Koster (of fears for at least 7 million at 70 million transfer fee) made ​​by the loyalty commitment in any case a huge uprising. In football it is now like in the stock market: One wrong word can crash the market value and allow burst transfers.
Also Wolfsburg manager Klaus Allofs told later that there had been no reason for a loyalty commitment. He has become wise by experience. The change of world champion Schürrle to Wolfsburg (who later went on stage) he denied with a word of honor. And quipped ironically: "A word of honor in football, that's such a thing ..."
He's right, unfortunately, right! The market in professional football is so overheated, the sums have become so ludicrous and the interlocutors as unpredictable - who knows there already, what about tomorrow?
Manchester City has purchased yesterday the Argentine defender Otamendi Valencia for 45 million euros. John Stones (21) Everton is on the wish list. The has a market value of 13 million euros. The bids increase just from 28 36 to 42 million. Everton insists on 58th
Who knows already this wrong business, whether Manchester oil billionaire Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan of Abu Dhabi tomorrow not everything again changed his mind and the following sentence suddenly stands again as a one: "I, Kevin De Bruyne, will definitely this season stay at VfL Wolfsburg! "
Klaus Allofs must take into account both possibilities ...
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby Tim777 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:10 pm

Socrates wrote:
Tim777 wrote:
blues2win wrote:Sport Bild say the move to City is imminent. De Bruyne's agent says he's spoken to Aloffs and a solution is being sought between the Clubs. I really don't think there's much doubt this will happen and I doubt it will go right to the wire because Wolfsburg need time to spend the cash. De Bruyne at least through his agent has made it very clear to Wolfsburg he wants to make the move.


But correct me if I'm wrong - the payment would be spread over the period of his contract according to this thread article viewtopic.php?f=119&t=50468 (refer to the point re. "amortisation") so Wolfsburg would have to wait a mighty long time to spend it all.
Unless it's done in such a way that, either it's taken as a full payment to Wolfsburg and CFG settles over the contract period but reflects on both parties' books as a full credit and debit respectively, or Wolfsburg is able to make deals with CFG's pro-rata money to another club with the same payment arrangement as the preceding deal.


I have no idea what you are getting at? Amortisation is spread over the contract regardless of when or how actual payments are made. The cost of acquiring the "asset" is spread over it's useful life when it comes to calculating profit and loss. This is the same whether you pay cash upfront or buy on credit. Is kind of irrelevant anyway as even if we paid instalments so could they on buying a replacement.


You are basically repeating what I had said in my last paragraph but in a different way. If you indeed had no idea what I was asking, why attempt to answer anyway? That's cuntish.
What the hell is that dude?
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:21 pm

KinkyKinkladze wrote:Fifty fucking mill. Outrageous we've agreed to pay that.

I know I've been negative over this transfer since the beginning but I really do not see him being worth even half that.

I really would love to be proved wrong though so over to you kev, show me up to be a mong, I beg thee.

These are the prices you have to pay to move players out of top clubs when the club doesn't want them to leave and doesn't need the money.
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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby DoomMerchant » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:12 pm

Tim777 wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Tim777 wrote:
blues2win wrote:Sport Bild say the move to City is imminent. De Bruyne's agent says he's spoken to Aloffs and a solution is being sought between the Clubs. I really don't think there's much doubt this will happen and I doubt it will go right to the wire because Wolfsburg need time to spend the cash. De Bruyne at least through his agent has made it very clear to Wolfsburg he wants to make the move.


But correct me if I'm wrong - the payment would be spread over the period of his contract according to this thread article viewtopic.php?f=119&t=50468 (refer to the point re. "amortisation") so Wolfsburg would have to wait a mighty long time to spend it all.
Unless it's done in such a way that, either it's taken as a full payment to Wolfsburg and CFG settles over the contract period but reflects on both parties' books as a full credit and debit respectively, or Wolfsburg is able to make deals with CFG's pro-rata money to another club with the same payment arrangement as the preceding deal.


I have no idea what you are getting at? Amortisation is spread over the contract regardless of when or how actual payments are made. The cost of acquiring the "asset" is spread over it's useful life when it comes to calculating profit and loss. This is the same whether you pay cash upfront or buy on credit. Is kind of irrelevant anyway as even if we paid instalments so could they on buying a replacement.


You are basically repeating what I had said in my last paragraph but in a different way. If you indeed had no idea what I was asking, why attempt to answer anyway? That's cuntish.
What the hell is that dude?
Blues2win provided some insight to the above that I was looking for.


Soccs is right. Unless you're fucking 8 years old you're talking about this shit like it's fucking Monopoly.

You get these two fundamentals, right:

We pay for a player in whatever way clubs agree -- cash, players, payment plans, etc
A club can amortize said players costs over a contract term for the management of their finances.

What the fuck else are you curious about exactly?

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Re: Kevin De Bruyne bookies slash wrists

Postby Tim777 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:57 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:
Tim777 wrote:
Socrates wrote:
Tim777 wrote:
blues2win wrote:Sport Bild say the move to City is imminent. De Bruyne's agent says he's spoken to Aloffs and a solution is being sought between the Clubs. I really don't think there's much doubt this will happen and I doubt it will go right to the wire because Wolfsburg need time to spend the cash. De Bruyne at least through his agent has made it very clear to Wolfsburg he wants to make the move.


But correct me if I'm wrong - the payment would be spread over the period of his contract according to this thread article viewtopic.php?f=119&t=50468 (refer to the point re. "amortisation") so Wolfsburg would have to wait a mighty long time to spend it all.
Unless it's done in such a way that, either it's taken as a full payment to Wolfsburg and CFG settles over the contract period but reflects on both parties' books as a full credit and debit respectively, or Wolfsburg is able to make deals with CFG's pro-rata money to another club with the same payment arrangement as the preceding deal.


I have no idea what you are getting at? Amortisation is spread over the contract regardless of when or how actual payments are made. The cost of acquiring the "asset" is spread over it's useful life when it comes to calculating profit and loss. This is the same whether you pay cash upfront or buy on credit. Is kind of irrelevant anyway as even if we paid instalments so could they on buying a replacement.


You are basically repeating what I had said in my last paragraph but in a different way. If you indeed had no idea what I was asking, why attempt to answer anyway? That's cuntish.
What the hell is that dude?
Blues2win provided some insight to the above that I was looking for.


Soccs is right. Unless you're fucking 8 years old you're talking about this shit like it's fucking Monopoly.

You get these two fundamentals, right:

We pay for a player in whatever way clubs agree -- cash, players, payment plans, etc
A club can amortize said players costs over a contract term for the management of their finances.

What the fuck else are you curious about exactly?

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Doomie, woah?? - read my original post and see what I highlighted from blues2win's post.
I didn't need an explanation about amortisation because I understand that concept.
I needed clarity on what blues2win said about Wolfsburg waiting to spending the cash whereas it would be amortised but they could buy anyway based on that concept.
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