Players out of position

[Socrates]

Petrov right wing and Weiss left wing is just wrong, I don't mind switching play for 5/10 mins play but to spend the entire match in those positions just makes us far too narrow. When Bellamy came on he instantly went down the line instead of cutting inside and set up 2 clear cut chances which should have been buried.

You do know Bellamy is right footed?

you do know that bellamy is both footed and uses his left to cross just as much as his right?

yes, you already said that once, he uses his right more than his left by some way.

[Socrates]

Petrov can cut in comfortably off either wing, Weiss looked lost on the left though.

Got to say we scraped it, but had Hughes picked Benjani and 46 defenders he would have been verbally axe murdered on here.

Weiss looked just as lost out on the right mate, he at least got into the game once he switched albeit with little impact. The squad is very thin, Hughes put the squad together so he would rightly have been slaughtered for having too thin a squad after signing too many "favourite" players that are always crocked.

I think people are being very unfair to Weiss: the important thing is that he's developing gradually and its a huge step up from being a star in the Youths set-up to being at ease in the big leagues.
Especially for a young lad who's still growing.
Today was one of the most encouraging displays I've seen him give because he tried a lot in different areas of the park and kept on trying and didn't hide away.
One delicious back heel , which will catch many better defences on the hop, almost let in, I think, Tevez in the second half: all it takes is for his teammates to be that much more familiar with what he can do.

Ireland was the same three seasons ago: he was often thinking three moves ahead of his teammates, but once people cottoned on to what he could do, everybody was raving about him

Agree. I already complained that people were comparing him to Johnson who has over a hundred professional appearances behind him including 70 in the Prem. I was merely stating that he was already struggling before he was switched.

[Wonderwall]

We have been lucky at just the right time IMO. Stoke, Wolves and Boro were all shit. I dont think they had 4 shots on target between them. Given made two good saves at wolves but thats about it. Playing these players out of position will catch us out soon if we dont get some of the crocks back soon.

Petrov on the right is an absolute joke. A quality LB would have him in his pocket all day long, he is so one footed its scary. Its obvious that Petrov will cut inside at every opportunity and a good LB will show him down the outside every time.

[Mr Miyagi]

Why? The results so far have been good, defence looks A LOT better but the general play has been very average (bar second half at Wolves). I don't think playing so many players out of position is helping. Today, in the second half our wingers got a lot of space but they didn't attack the full-backs cos they kept having to turn inside or go backwards to get the ball on their stronger foot. So why insist on playing them out of position?

Interesting point. But consider Messi at Barca. He is mostly left footed but plays wide right. When Ronaldino was there he was playing wide left despite being mostly right footed. Does this mean Barca have it wrong?

Continental managers don't think of the traditional "get to the byeline" winger. That comes from a very English tradition. Stanley Matthews etc. The media told Alf Ramsey he would never win anything without wingers.

Continental managers view it as one dimensional i.e. the full back knows what the winger is going to try and do. Despite all the dribbling the full back knows that the winger try and get to the byeline.

[Fidel Castro]

Why? The results so far have been good, defence looks A LOT better but the general play has been very average (bar second half at Wolves). I don't think playing so many players out of position is helping. Today, in the second half our wingers got a lot of space but they didn't attack the full-backs cos they kept having to turn inside or go backwards to get the ball on their stronger foot. So why insist on playing them out of position?

Interesting point. But consider Messi at Barca. He is mostly left footed but plays wide right. When Ronaldino was there he was playing wide left despite being mostly right footed. Does this mean Barca have it wrong?

Continental managers don't think of the traditional "get to the byeline" winger. That comes from a very English tradition. Stanley Matthews etc. The media told Alf Ramsey he would never win anything without wingers.

Continental managers view it as one dimensional i.e. the full back knows what the winger is going to try and do. Despite all the dribbling the full back knows that the winger try and get to the byeline.

And now the fullback knows the winger will cut inside. Only difference is, by cutting inside all the time, the winger makes the pitch a lot smaller.

[Socrates]

Why? The results so far have been good, defence looks A LOT better but the general play has been very average (bar second half at Wolves). I don't think playing so many players out of position is helping. Today, in the second half our wingers got a lot of space but they didn't attack the full-backs cos they kept having to turn inside or go backwards to get the ball on their stronger foot. So why insist on playing them out of position?

Interesting point. But consider Messi at Barca. He is mostly left footed but plays wide right. When Ronaldino was there he was playing wide left despite being mostly right footed. Does this mean Barca have it wrong?

Continental managers don't think of the traditional "get to the byeline" winger. That comes from a very English tradition. Stanley Matthews etc. The media told Alf Ramsey he would never win anything without wingers.

Continental managers view it as one dimensional i.e. the full back knows what the winger is going to try and do. Despite all the dribbling the full back knows that the winger try and get to the byeline.

Excellent post but you are wasting your time. It mustn't work that way in computer games...

[CityFanFromRome]

Why? The results so far have been good, defence looks A LOT better but the general play has been very average (bar second half at Wolves). I don't think playing so many players out of position is helping. Today, in the second half our wingers got a lot of space but they didn't attack the full-backs cos they kept having to turn inside or go backwards to get the ball on their stronger foot. So why insist on playing them out of position?

Interesting point. But consider Messi at Barca. He is mostly left footed but plays wide right. When Ronaldino was there he was playing wide left despite being mostly right footed. Does this mean Barca have it wrong?

Continental managers don't think of the traditional "get to the byeline" winger. That comes from a very English tradition. Stanley Matthews etc. The media told Alf Ramsey he would never win anything without wingers.

Continental managers view it as one dimensional i.e. the full back knows what the winger is going to try and do. Despite all the dribbling the full back knows that the winger try and get to the byeline.

And now the fullback knows the winger will cut inside. Only difference is, by cutting inside all the time, the winger makes the pitch a lot smaller.

Not necessarily true, unless we have seriously one-footed players they can always get to the byeline, or they could cut inside and have the full back get to the byeline so the opposing full back will have two players to handle, thus leaving one of them free to act.

[Fidel Castro]

Why? The results so far have been good, defence looks A LOT better but the general play has been very average (bar second half at Wolves). I don't think playing so many players out of position is helping. Today, in the second half our wingers got a lot of space but they didn't attack the full-backs cos they kept having to turn inside or go backwards to get the ball on their stronger foot. So why insist on playing them out of position?

Interesting point. But consider Messi at Barca. He is mostly left footed but plays wide right. When Ronaldino was there he was playing wide left despite being mostly right footed. Does this mean Barca have it wrong?

Continental managers don't think of the traditional "get to the byeline" winger. That comes from a very English tradition. Stanley Matthews etc. The media told Alf Ramsey he would never win anything without wingers.

Continental managers view it as one dimensional i.e. the full back knows what the winger is going to try and do. Despite all the dribbling the full back knows that the winger try and get to the byeline.

Excellent post but you are wasting your time. It mustn't work that way in computer games...

You're right, I've heard Messi is fuckin shit in computer games.
I stopped playing them a few years ago and started buying foreign brides instead

[Socrates]

Why? The results so far have been good, defence looks A LOT better but the general play has been very average (bar second half at Wolves). I don't think playing so many players out of position is helping. Today, in the second half our wingers got a lot of space but they didn't attack the full-backs cos they kept having to turn inside or go backwards to get the ball on their stronger foot. So why insist on playing them out of position?

Interesting point. But consider Messi at Barca. He is mostly left footed but plays wide right. When Ronaldino was there he was playing wide left despite being mostly right footed. Does this mean Barca have it wrong?

Continental managers don't think of the traditional "get to the byeline" winger. That comes from a very English tradition. Stanley Matthews etc. The media told Alf Ramsey he would never win anything without wingers.

Continental managers view it as one dimensional i.e. the full back knows what the winger is going to try and do. Despite all the dribbling the full back knows that the winger try and get to the byeline.

Excellent post but you are wasting your time. It mustn't work that way in computer games...

You're right, I've heard Messi is fuckin shit in computer games.
I stopped playing them a few years ago and started buying foreign brides instead

Racism or xenophobia? You decide...

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Petrov can cut in comfortably off either wing, Weiss looked lost on the left though.

Got to say we scraped it, but had Hughes picked Benjani and 46 defenders he would have been verbally axe murdered on here.

no one will ever be slaughtered for winning games for us. Problem is, Hughes would've delivered another Nottinhham Forest.

[Wonderwall]

Petrov can cut in comfortably off either wing, Weiss looked lost on the left though.

Got to say we scraped it, but had Hughes picked Benjani and 46 defenders he would have been verbally axe murdered on here.

no one will ever be slaughtered for winning games for us. Problem is, Hughes would've delivered another Nottinhham Forest.

Jesus, why cant you just let it drop. You are talking utter bollox

[edge275]

Petrov can cut in comfortably off either wing, Weiss looked lost on the left though.

Got to say we scraped it, but had Hughes picked Benjani and 46 defenders he would have been verbally axe murdered on here.

no one will ever be slaughtered for winning games for us. Problem is, Hughes would've delivered another Nottinhham Forest.

I agree. He was absolutely dogshit.

[Fidel Castro]

Why? The results so far have been good, defence looks A LOT better but the general play has been very average (bar second half at Wolves). I don't think playing so many players out of position is helping. Today, in the second half our wingers got a lot of space but they didn't attack the full-backs cos they kept having to turn inside or go backwards to get the ball on their stronger foot. So why insist on playing them out of position?

Interesting point. But consider Messi at Barca. He is mostly left footed but plays wide right. When Ronaldino was there he was playing wide left despite being mostly right footed. Does this mean Barca have it wrong?

Continental managers don't think of the traditional "get to the byeline" winger. That comes from a very English tradition. Stanley Matthews etc. The media told Alf Ramsey he would never win anything without wingers.

Continental managers view it as one dimensional i.e. the full back knows what the winger is going to try and do. Despite all the dribbling the full back knows that the winger try and get to the byeline.

Excellent post but you are wasting your time. It mustn't work that way in computer games...

You're right, I've heard Messi is fuckin shit in computer games.
I stopped playing them a few years ago and started buying foreign brides instead

Racism or xenophobia? You decide...

Please explain how that can be judged either racist or xenophobic??????

[Socrates]

Interesting point. But consider Messi at Barca. He is mostly left footed but plays wide right. When Ronaldino was there he was playing wide left despite being mostly right footed. Does this mean Barca have it wrong?

Continental managers don't think of the traditional "get to the byeline" winger. That comes from a very English tradition. Stanley Matthews etc. The media told Alf Ramsey he would never win anything without wingers.

Continental managers view it as one dimensional i.e. the full back knows what the winger is going to try and do. Despite all the dribbling the full back knows that the winger try and get to the byeline.

Excellent post but you are wasting your time. It mustn't work that way in computer games...

You're right, I've heard Messi is fuckin shit in computer games.
I stopped playing them a few years ago and started buying foreign brides instead

Racism or xenophobia? You decide...

Please explain how that can be judged either racist or xenophobic??????

Because it was aimed at myself and my wife and referred to a racial or national stereotype rather than the facts of the matter...

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Petrov can cut in comfortably off either wing, Weiss looked lost on the left though.

Got to say we scraped it, but had Hughes picked Benjani and 46 defenders he would have been verbally axe murdered on here.

no one will ever be slaughtered for winning games for us. Problem is, Hughes would've delivered another Nottinhham Forest.

Does the site shut down during the pre game and 90 mins prior to full time? If not please don't be so full of shit in future.

[daveh1962]

I think that we should ALL move on from the Hughes era and embrace the new one. To try and discuss what Hughes would have done and how that would have gone down with supporters is totally pointless and just raises arguments. None of us know what team Hughes would have put out in view of the injuries and none of know what the last 3 results would have been.

Why cant we just discuss what we are seeing on the pitch rather than constantly trying to disect what our previous manager would have done

[Original Dub]

I think that we should ALL move on from the Hughes era and embrace the new one. To try and discuss what Hughes would have done and how that would have gone down with supporters is totally pointless and just raises arguments. None of us know what team Hughes would have put out in view of the injuries and none of know what the last 3 results would have been.

Why cant we just discuss what we are seeing on the pitch rather than constantly trying to disect what our previous manager would have done

I think its becoming quite clear who actually is obsessed with Mark Hughes.

I choose not to talk about him because as I always stated, if/when he is no longer part of the club, he holds no interest for me whatsoever.

Put your full support behind Mancini because he is our manager and that's what's always gonna be best for the club.... let Mark Hughes go....

[Buffalo Soldier]

I think that we should ALL move on from the Hughes era and embrace the new one. To try and discuss what Hughes would have done and how that would have gone down with supporters is totally pointless and just raises arguments. None of us know what team Hughes would have put out in view of the injuries and none of know what the last 3 results would have been.

Why cant we just discuss what we are seeing on the pitch rather than constantly trying to disect what our previous manager would have done

Because it's quite clear that the ones who were most vocal about Hughes going were 100 times more obssessed with the man than any of the so called "lickers".

[edge275]

I think that we should ALL move on from the Hughes era and embrace the new one. To try and discuss what Hughes would have done and how that would have gone down with supporters is totally pointless and just raises arguments. None of us know what team Hughes would have put out in view of the injuries and none of know what the last 3 results would have been.

Why cant we just discuss what we are seeing on the pitch rather than constantly trying to disect what our previous manager would have done

Because it's quite clear that the ones who were most vocal about Hughes going were 100 times more obssessed with the man than any of the so called "lickers".

The lickers were crazy for Hughes. Always rimming his anus.

[Buffalo Soldier]

I think that we should ALL move on from the Hughes era and embrace the new one. To try and discuss what Hughes would have done and how that would have gone down with supporters is totally pointless and just raises arguments. None of us know what team Hughes would have put out in view of the injuries and none of know what the last 3 results would have been.

Why cant we just discuss what we are seeing on the pitch rather than constantly trying to disect what our previous manager would have done

Because it's quite clear that the ones who were most vocal about Hughes going were 100 times more obssessed with the man than any of the so called "lickers".

The lickers were crazy for Hughes. Always rimming his anus.

Haven't you got some 'facts' on our new manager and potential signings to be wikipediaing and then passing the info off as your own opinion?