Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I believe MP when he says we need four strikers. That was the aim last season, he's tried three and found it a struggle, so Bony, if he comes brings us back to full strength. It doesn't mean one of the others is going. It's true someone will miss out on CL this year, but in the worst case scenario that is only two games.
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I believe MP when he says we need four strikers. That was the aim last season, he's tried three and found it a struggle, so Bony, if he comes brings us back to full strength. It doesn't mean one of the others is going. It's true someone will miss out on CL this year, but in the worst case scenario that is only two games.
Ted Hughes wrote:I can take various criticisms of Jovetic, but not the idea that Samir Nasri is better at shooting than him.
And if he was, how would we know, seeing as Nasri only actually tries to shoot once a month ?
Ted Hughes wrote:I can take various criticisms of Jovetic, but not the idea that Samir Nasri is better at shooting than him.
And if he was, how would we know, seeing as Nasri only actually tries to shoot once a month ?
Slim wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I can take various criticisms of Jovetic, but not the idea that Samir Nasri is better at shooting than him.
And if he was, how would we know, seeing as Nasri only actually tries to shoot once a month ?
Well Sami has scored 23 goals for us, JoJo has not. If you were unsure of one of their shooting ability, are you sure you're questioning the right one?
Ted Hughes wrote:Slim wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I can take various criticisms of Jovetic, but not the idea that Samir Nasri is better at shooting than him.
And if he was, how would we know, seeing as Nasri only actually tries to shoot once a month ?
Well Sami has scored 23 goals for us, JoJo has not. If you were unsure of one of their shooting ability, are you sure you're questioning the right one?
I'd have to question us signing Bony then, seeing as Jovetic's minutes to goals ratio for City in the past year is miles better than his for Swansea (don't think people even bother printing Nasri's).
But the answer would be 'yes' I am sure I'm questioning the right one.
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Slim wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I can take various criticisms of Jovetic, but not the idea that Samir Nasri is better at shooting than him.
And if he was, how would we know, seeing as Nasri only actually tries to shoot once a month ?
Well Sami has scored 23 goals for us, JoJo has not. If you were unsure of one of their shooting ability, are you sure you're questioning the right one?
I'd have to question us signing Bony then, seeing as Jovetic's minutes to goals ratio for City in the past year is miles better than his for Swansea (don't think people even bother printing Nasri's).
But the answer would be 'yes' I am sure I'm questioning the right one.
Goals to minutes don't mean much if you're only fit half an hour per month.
DoomMerchant wrote:Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I believe MP when he says we need four strikers. That was the aim last season, he's tried three and found it a struggle, so Bony, if he comes brings us back to full strength. It doesn't mean one of the others is going. It's true someone will miss out on CL this year, but in the worst case scenario that is only two games.
We've lost already?
Great.
Cheers
Ted Hughes wrote:Slim wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I can take various criticisms of Jovetic, but not the idea that Samir Nasri is better at shooting than him.
And if he was, how would we know, seeing as Nasri only actually tries to shoot once a month ?
Well Sami has scored 23 goals for us, JoJo has not. If you were unsure of one of their shooting ability, are you sure you're questioning the right one?
I'd have to question us signing Bony then, seeing as Jovetic's minutes to goals ratio for City in the past year is miles better than his for Swansea (don't think people even bother printing Nasri's).
But the answer would be 'yes' I am sure I'm questioning the right one.
Slim wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Slim wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I can take various criticisms of Jovetic, but not the idea that Samir Nasri is better at shooting than him.
And if he was, how would we know, seeing as Nasri only actually tries to shoot once a month ?
Well Sami has scored 23 goals for us, JoJo has not. If you were unsure of one of their shooting ability, are you sure you're questioning the right one?
I'd have to question us signing Bony then, seeing as Jovetic's minutes to goals ratio for City in the past year is miles better than his for Swansea (don't think people even bother printing Nasri's).
But the answer would be 'yes' I am sure I'm questioning the right one.
I guess we can compare the creative midfield of City's to Swansea's. We could compare the possession stats or anything else you'd like to arbitrary select as your reason to choose one player over another. How about goals scored, how does Bony stand up against JoJo then? Or Aguero? Or anyone in the league for the last 12 months?
And yes, it matters is JoJo is fit for 1 match out of every 6. Because one game is only worth 3 points, no matter of how many goals we win by with our magical goals/minute ratio striker.
Blue Since 76 wrote:Regardless of CL, someone's got to go to balance the books. We had an allowed net spend of £49m. I'm still not clear what happens in regard to add ons ie is Bony £25m or £28m for FFP purposes?
From my poor memory, below are what we spent and recouped in summer and so far in January.
Mangala 40
Willy 3
Fernando 12
Zuccelini 1.5
Bony 25
Total 81.5
Negredo 25
Nastasic 1.5 (loan)
Total 26.5
Net 55
If that's right, it means raising a further £6m. Sinclair will be a couple of million, so the rest is needed from somewhere. Maybe another loan fee or a loan with commitment to buy for someone like Jovetic?
Slim wrote:See, my thinking is the other way, Dzonkey is a proven striker and worth money, also he has earned the right to play as a team's first striker rather than it's third, hell he practically dragged us to the title at the end last season.
JoJo needs to turn his shit around, most players aren't 100% all the time but they manage to play on anyway, I get the feeling he needs to toughen the fuck up. If we let him go now, it'll be another Adebayor farce with loans where we pay his wages, transfer fees where we continue to pay him after he leaves, all manner of shit I'd rather we not deal with.
Slim wrote:See, my thinking is the other way, Dzonkey is a proven striker and worth money, also he has earned the right to play as a team's first striker rather than it's third, hell he practically dragged us to the title at the end last season.
JoJo needs to turn his shit around, most players aren't 100% all the time but they manage to play on anyway, I get the feeling he needs to toughen the fuck up. If we let him go now, it'll be another Adebayor farce with loans where we pay his wages, transfer fees where we continue to pay him after he leaves, all manner of shit I'd rather we not deal with.
Ted Hughes wrote:Slim wrote:See, my thinking is the other way, Dzonkey is a proven striker and worth money, also he has earned the right to play as a team's first striker rather than it's third, hell he practically dragged us to the title at the end last season.
JoJo needs to turn his shit around, most players aren't 100% all the time but they manage to play on anyway, I get the feeling he needs to toughen the fuck up. If we let him go now, it'll be another Adebayor farce with loans where we pay his wages, transfer fees where we continue to pay him after he leaves, all manner of shit I'd rather we not deal with.
I think he'll go, as he doesn't fit.
But he'll be a better finisher than Nasri, whether he goes or stays & anyone who says otherwise, is a tit.
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:DoomMerchant wrote:Hutch's Shoulder wrote:I believe MP when he says we need four strikers. That was the aim last season, he's tried three and found it a struggle, so Bony, if he comes brings us back to full strength. It doesn't mean one of the others is going. It's true someone will miss out on CL this year, but in the worst case scenario that is only two games.
We've lost already?
Great.
Cheers
I didn't say that, I said it was the worst case.
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