ayrshireblue wrote:Agree completely. Our team should be
Hart
Zaba Kompany Mangala Kolarov
Fernando Fernandinho
Milner Silva Jovetic
Aguero
I think we have to persist with Mangala for the time being and just play him into form, just like Kompany had to do years ago. No place for Yaya on current form, he's a liability just as much as Clichy
Beefymcfc wrote:We won the league with these tactics last season and not too many complained, in fact some were lambasted for mentioning it. What's the change?
ayrshireblue wrote:Agree completely. Our team should be
Hart
Zaba Kompany Mangala Kolarov
Fernando Fernandinho
Milner Silva Jovetic
Aguero
I think we have to persist with Mangala for the time being and just play him into form, just like Kompany had to do years ago. No place for Yaya on current form, he's a liability just as much as Clichy
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:ayrshireblue wrote:Agree completely. Our team should be
Hart
Zaba Kompany Mangala Kolarov
Fernando Fernandinho
Milner Silva Jovetic
Aguero
I think we have to persist with Mangala for the time being and just play him into form, just like Kompany had to do years ago. No place for Yaya on current form, he's a liability just as much as Clichy
Accepting, for the moment, your thoughts about persevering with Mangala, I think that's just about the best and most balanced line-up we could put out at this point in time.
However, it's flexible enough to be considered a 4-3-3 formation (which I really like), with Silva and Jovetic supporting Aguero up front and which would provide a fairly fluid arrangement. Milner might even be viable, more centrally, for the longed for 'box-to-box' role.
The concern I would have, however, would be that when injuries, loss of form and squad rotation come into play, the replacements who would be drafted in, just because they have different attributes, might nullify, to some extent, the flexibility and effectiveness of that formation. I also don't see Yaya fitting in very easily without some disruption, as it were.
On the plus side of things, that formation might make it easier for the EDS youngsters to immediately slot in to the first team, when they start to come through the system (hopefully very soon).
At the end of the day, although he might become a very fine player for us in time, I still wish that we hadn't bought Mangala in the summer, opting instead, with our FFP budgetary limitations, for another attacker. I also prefer DeMichelis and I still think he has a useful one or two seasons left in him, for us, which would have deferred the centre-back issue for a little time.
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:I've no problem with two strikers, but it requires a few things we are not seeing.
Pressing. West Ham did it, we didn't. Can't have two bodies up top and neither shutting down. Tevez would have worked a treat in this system.
Midfielders to either press or take turns holding. Yes I know Fernando does it, but if we commit 2 strikers, 3 mids and a fb or 2 and don't make anything of it, the sucker punch tends to be waiting to happen.
Or lastly play Fernando as we thought he would in a mid 3 with fern and yaya and that way we have protection. Or sad as it makes ne to say it stop letting the fullbacks go forward so much.
Can't do none of the above, not be ruthless and win games.
Ted Hughes wrote:I haven't even seen the game yet, but I've seen the others & imo, no matter how they are playing right now, Mangala, Fernando & Jovetic are fucking good players who can be a fantastic asset to the club.
I said when we signed Mangala though, that it could take a few seasons to adapt to the Prem & as we already had strong cb partnerships, we should use them & ease him in. I already know Jovetic is a great player through watching him previously & Fernando showed enough earlier that he can be a force. So far neither him nor Fernandinho have been match fit when I've seen them this season.
I have rarely seen Aguero & Dzeko link up since we signed them. The Beast was a great influence in improving that & they showed signs but if they are slipping back to their old ways, then either rotate them or one will have to go.
Dzeko was working harder than Aguero but if they are both back to loafing then the team can't carry both plus Silva Yaya unless all are on top form.
And that's been the problem imo. Post title, post World Cup they are all not quite there. It happens & it may just be a slightly off the pace season. If we haven't blown it by Jan, some fresh legs may boost it back up.
As for Fat Sam's comments; tell it to Real Madrid you fat cunt. Easy to play, my fucking arse. Let's see how his record head to head compares with Pellegrinis over the coming seasons.
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