Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Silva has long had Immunity on here. He is imo one of the best creative players in the world but he has his weaknesses, he isn't ruthless enough. He's easily capable of getting 20 goals a season and being regarded in the tranny/Messi class and he has shown that he can shoot, but he'd still normally try and pass with an open net.
Great player, but if he sorts that side of his game out he'd be on another level.
Ted Hughes wrote:He doesn't have to if he plays to the standard he has for City, but the team has to balance around him & we are trying to balance it around him AND Yaya.
Both players are equally to blame for both our successes & our failures imo.
gmercer1 wrote:Someone mentioned it in another thread. We seem to be so slow at getting the ball forward that teams have loads of time to get men behind the ball and organise themselves.
When we played the rags last season we ripped them 3 new arseholes with the pace we played at. Everyone closing down fast. Problem is we seem to do it for a game or two then we fall back in to this tippy tappy football where 30 passes we end up closer to our own goal.
Don't get me wrong possession football is good but we are at our most scary when we play with pace.
Now look at the rags, they have been playing shite for a long time now and a few people I know we're moaning about how slow they were at getting the ball forward. They sign Di Maria and all of a sudden they look a faster more attacking team.
So do we need to make a new signing to get back to the fast pace of football? If so who would you sign? Reus?
gmercer1 wrote:Someone mentioned it in another thread. We seem to be so slow at getting the ball forward that teams have loads of time to get men behind the ball and organise themselves.
When we played the rags last season we ripped them 3 new arseholes with the pace we played at. Everyone closing down fast. Problem is we seem to do it for a game or two then we fall back in to this tippy tappy football where 30 passes we end up closer to our own goal.
Don't get me wrong possession football is good but we are at our most scary when we play with pace.
Now look at the rags, they have been playing shite for a long time now and a few people I know we're moaning about how slow they were at getting the ball forward. They sign Di Maria and all of a sudden they look a faster more attacking team.
So do we need to make a new signing to get back to the fast pace of football? If so who would you sign? Reus?
blues2win wrote:The funny thing is that Pellegrini wants to see his players pressing high up the pitch but he hasn't really got the personnel to play like that. It's not Dzeko's natural game even if there are games when he does work harder. Second half he was losing possession far too easily and not looking particularly arsed. Aguero does it in fits and starts but nowhere near consistently enough. The two forwards we've had who were perfect for this style would be Tevez ( nowhere near as lethal as Sergio though) and the Beast who wanted out to be fair probably for family reasons. Then look at Silva and Nasri. Neither press anywhere near enough when we haven't got the ball.
The problem with Yaya this season is twofold. He plays deep so he's expected to close down midfield runners but he just doesn't do it. Time and again you seem him close to an opposition midfielder and he just waves them goodbye. No attempt to close them down at all. I'm not talking about chasing back 30 yards but moving three yards to confront another player. There's really no excuse for that. Yesterday when he came on Fernandinho was hopeless too. Fernando absolutely gets it and looks a really good buy but he's asked to do a phenomenal amount. The other problem with Yaya is that he's not contributing anywhere near enough going forward this season. We all know he's phenomenally strong when dribbling; very hard to knock off the ball. He can pick a pass as well as anyone in the Premiership and he's got a helluva shot. Sorry but we just haven't seen enough of any of those qualities. They're not totally absent but not being displayed anywhere enough for me.
I agree about Silva yesterday although he did pick out Dzeko with a lovely through ball for the goal. Trouble is when he's facing a packed defence and midfield he persists in fiddling little balls though the middle when there really isn't any space. We were best in the first half when we overloaded on one side or the other with the full backs rather than trying miracle passes into tiny gaps through the middle.
Hoddle said yesterday that we didn't seem to have a clear plan on how to get turnover ball. One player would press here, another there but it wasn't co-ordinated. Not far from the truth I would say.
Im_Spartacus wrote:Ted's got a valid point, one that I think has been evident a fair few times over the years and has seen Silva & Nasri tried out on the wings etc as the midfield we have is fundamentally unbalanced because of the individuals who have to be shoehorned into it.
I think the answer is possibly quite extreme, and does really necessitate that a few of the sacred cows make way. I'm fairly sure Toure will be on his way either in January or in the summer, but I think the club should really give consideration to where Dave fits into the 'city system' moving forwards. He will always go down as an all time great for the club but he simply doesn't have the attributes to warrant a start in the centre of midfield, and he is not good enough to play behind the main striker as he is too shot shy. As much as Nasri doesn't have Silva's brain and quickness of feet, he actually has the ability to contribute in both positions and in fact excel as we saw at Arsenal and for large parts of last season.
By having Silva, you have to play him, but you can't get the best out of him in either position - he essentially derails the system.
We really need to decide what the city system is, and then work out the best available players at the club and outside the club to fill them, only then will we move forward. It looked like Manuel had it last season, but we seem to have gone a little backwards or lost our way a bit.
Ted Hughes wrote:Jovetic could be a factor in that kind of system.
Return to The Maine Football forum
Users browsing this forum: Bluemoon4610, C & C, city72, Majestic-12 [Bot] and 184 guests