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Re: Fabregas

Postby AG7 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:41 pm

Benjay wrote:Txixi and Co don't like troublemakers. Tevez and Balo a case in point. I wonder if Yaya is going the same way. I love Yaya - he is my favourite current player but the last week or so has been very disappointing. He's 31. Maybe they will cash in on him and get Fabregas and Txixi is on record as being a big fan.


I think this is exactly what is going on ...
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Green & Blue » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:59 pm

Quality player.Would be a great addition if we could get him.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby blues2win » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:12 pm

Rafael Hernandez a very respected football market watcher says Cesc at City? You have been warned. Saw a supposed picture of him in London today on twitter but absolutely no proof when it was taken.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby twosips » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:34 pm

He's posted a little more about that possibility too.

Personally I'm a huge cesc fan. Would love him at City. Homegrown so it'd make a lot of sense.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby blues2win » Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:41 pm

Ian Ladyman and DTGuardian both tweeting we're not interested. Spanish sources say the opposite. My own view is it suits us to play this long because we need to decide first whether Yaya's staying or not. Can we keep this going till after the World Cup though and avoid Liverpool or Chelsea stealing Cesc. I can't see him coming though if Yaya stays. I just don't think we could keep them both happy.

Hopefully Sagna and Fernando will sign this week which will be two good bits of business.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Crossie » Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:03 am

Not keen on him as a person, he's slagged us several times and caused Arse unsettling transfer rumours for about 5 years.

Bit of a twat but few better football wise....

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Re: Fabregas

Postby john@staustell » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:34 am

blues2win wrote:Ian Ladyman and DTGuardian both tweeting we're not interested. Spanish sources say the opposite. My own view is it suits us to play this long because we need to decide first whether Yaya's staying or not. Can we keep this going till after the World Cup though and avoid Liverpool or Chelsea stealing Cesc. I can't see him coming though if Yaya stays. I just don't think we could keep them both happy.

Hopefully Sagna and Fernando will sign this week which will be two good bits of business.



http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/p ... ty-3288198

Barcelona's mouthpiece Sport.es says Fabregas's agent, Darren Dein, has met both Arsenal and City. Basically Arsenal offered peanuts whereas City made the usual impressive offer. Sport says an agreement COULD HAVE BEEN reached already.

My own point - a club may well reach agreements with many more players than they actually sign. It all depends on the what if's of everything else planned.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Slim » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:40 am

Fantastic player, however what I think is happening here is the same story we've heard before. He wants to go to a specific club, specific club is using that knowledge to screw him on wages. Media inserts City into the headlines in order to put pressure on the buying club to come back with a better offer.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:46 am

Fabregas is a bottler. Great player on his day but he doesn't have it in him and a midfield with him instead of Yaya, for example, wouldn't have provided the necessary goods this May. He was raised in an Arsenal that always choked when push came to shove and he's molded in that fashion. I have absolutely nothing to back my statement up but it's nonetheless true.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Slim » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:00 am

Cocacolajojo wrote:Fabregas is a bottler. Great player on his day but he doesn't have it in him and a midfield with him instead of Yaya, for example, wouldn't have provided the necessary goods this May. He was raised in an Arsenal that always choked when push came to shove and he's molded in that fashion. I have absolutely nothing to back my statement up but it's nonetheless true.


The year he was signed he played 3 league cup games and it was the last time Arsenal won the title(he played no league games so didn't get a medal), the following year he really broke into the first team and they won the FA Cup. Then in his remaining 6 seasons at the club they won nothing.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:05 am

Slim wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:Fabregas is a bottler. Great player on his day but he doesn't have it in him and a midfield with him instead of Yaya, for example, wouldn't have provided the necessary goods this May. He was raised in an Arsenal that always choked when push came to shove and he's molded in that fashion. I have absolutely nothing to back my statement up but it's nonetheless true.


The year he was signed he played 3 league cup games and it was the last time Arsenal won the title(he played no league games so didn't get a medal), the following year he really broke into the first team and they won the FA Cup. Then in his remaining 6 seasons at the club they won nothing.


It's a real winner culture. Incidentally, they won again (the FA-cup) after they got rid of him.

Since his arrival, Barcelona have won the league once in three seasons and that season their main competitor was rife with locker room struggles and disharmony. Before he came, they won three seasons in a row. Also, no champions leage wins. I know all this might all be coincidences, he alone doesn't create successes or failures at the clubs he plays but IMO, we shouldn't go near him. Gut feeling.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Slim » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:19 am

Cocacolajojo wrote:
Slim wrote:
Cocacolajojo wrote:Fabregas is a bottler. Great player on his day but he doesn't have it in him and a midfield with him instead of Yaya, for example, wouldn't have provided the necessary goods this May. He was raised in an Arsenal that always choked when push came to shove and he's molded in that fashion. I have absolutely nothing to back my statement up but it's nonetheless true.


The year he was signed he played 3 league cup games and it was the last time Arsenal won the title(he played no league games so didn't get a medal), the following year he really broke into the first team and they won the FA Cup. Then in his remaining 6 seasons at the club they won nothing.


It's a real winner culture. Incidentally, they won again (the FA-cup) after they got rid of him.

Since his arrival, Barcelona have won the league once in three seasons and that season their main competitor was rife with locker room struggles and disharmony. Before he came, they won three seasons in a row. Also, no champions leage wins. I know all this might all be coincidences, he alone doesn't create successes or failures at the clubs he plays but IMO, we shouldn't go near him. Gut feeling.


I was just pointing out you said you have nothing to back your statement and the evidence is there if you want to read it that way. Personally I think Yaya, Fernando and Fabregas in a 4-3-3- and we'll destroy teams next season. However if it's a choice between Yaya and Fabregas, anyone here want to give up the mountain?
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Re: Fabregas

Postby john@staustell » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:36 am

Word now is we aren't interested (DT, ESPN).

Something wrong about this whole situation - you cant kick a player out of the club and say, "by the way we want £30M+ for him".

You have to see what you can get. Whole thing is most likely another round of nuisance caused by his agent.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:38 am

Class player but not sure he's the one we need. Imo we have enough small, skillful, tidy players in Silva, Nasri and possibly Jovetic and maybe even Lopes to come through. If Yaya leaves we need a powerful box to box, driving midfielder to replace him.
I haven't seen much of Pogba or Vidal tbh but they both seem very highly rated. Or maybe even Ross Barkley who also has the added bonus of being homegrown.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Slim » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:45 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Class player but not sure he's the one we need. Imo we have enough small, skillful, tidy players in Silva, Nasri and possibly Jovetic and maybe even Lopes to come through. If Yaya leaves we need a powerful box to box, driving midfielder to replace him.
I haven't seen much of Pogba or Vidal tbh but they both seem very highly rated. Or maybe even Ross Barkley who also has the added bonus of being homegrown.


Would take Ross Barkley in an instant. Don't even want to know what Everton would want for him though.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby trueblue64 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:48 am

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Have heard the same as @Ian_Ladyman_DM and that is: forget Man City and Cesc Fabregas, they're not in for him.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Crossie » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:51 am

If Yaya leaves who can replace him?

Fabregas is one of few who I would he happy to trust to do that, ability wise.

It would definitely soften the blow.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby blues2win » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:05 am

The bookies are all over the place. Sky bet has us at 6-4 favourites with the scum nowhere. Paddy Power has the scum as 2-1 favourites with Chelsea and us at 5-2. If Arsenal want him they'll get him and we won't go for him unless we decide to let Yaya go.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:06 am

Crossie wrote:If Yaya leaves who can replace him?

Fabregas is one of few who I would he happy to trust to do that, ability wise.

It would definitely soften the blow.


I don't understand this perspective. Yaya is like a tsunami and Fabs is a lightning strike. Totally different impact on the game IMHO. I wouldn't trade yaya for him despite the age difference. Even if yaya continued his wantaway bollox.
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Re: Fabregas

Postby Sue Perb » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:03 am

DoomMerchant wrote: I don't understand this perspective. Yaya is like a tsunami and Fabs is a lightning strike. Totally different impact on the game IMHO. I wouldn't trade yaya for him despite the age difference. Even if yaya continued his wantaway bollox.


……and you've said elsewhere, on this forum, Fabregas isn't coming to City anyway; thus a non-argument surely?
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