blues2win wrote:Wonder whether UEFA will put out the news tomorrow to avoid being accused of interfering with our Parade. Presumably those who accept their punishment will be named at the least which will make it very clear if we haven't.
Ted Hughes wrote:Martin Samuel on Wenger. Quality.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... razil.html
And while we're at it
Considering he thinks it is right for Manchester City to be expelled from the Champions League, sometimes it is amusing to consider what Arsene Wenger feels is fair in football. Rewarding failure, for instance. Very fair. Arsenal, his club, have not been anywhere near the Premier League trophy for 10 years now, yet are consistently seeded in Pot 1 of the Champions League draw, and have been since 2000-01.
UEFA’s co-efficient system, which takes historical form into account and therefore protects the biggest and richest clubs from one ordinary season — or in Arsenal’s case, nine — will come to Wenger’s rescue again this summer. Despite having to go through another qualification play-off, providing Arsenal progress, Wenger already knows his team are among the highest seeds for 2014-15, no matter the fourth-place finish.
Manchester City, the actual champions in two of the previous three seasons, will be in Pot 2, if lucky. Borussia Dortmund won the Bundesliga in 2011-12 and were placed in Pot 4. ‘Nobody has ever won the Champions League from Pot 4,’ explained Dortmund chief executive officer Hans-Joachim Watzke. Still no word from Wenger on this, so it’s probably fair.
Sky-high ticket prices; also fair. This season Arsenal had the highest priced season ticket in the league (£1,955) and the top priced cheapest season ticket, too, at £985. As Arsenal play Hull City on Saturday looking for their first trophy since 2005, some might think this poor value for money. Not Wenger. No word condemns Arsenal for squeezing their public, despite the advantage of a 60,000 capacity stadium.
‘The only way we can pay the wages and compete without any external help is through the ticket prices,’ he said in January 2013. ‘It is our main income so, of course, the prices are high. It is down to every individual to decide. If you want to go to a concert tomorrow, you look at the price of a ticket and if it is too high, you say yes or no.’
This is the upmarket version of like it or lump it, really. Super fair. Manchester City, meanwhile, on the back of two titles, the FA Cup and the League Cup in the last four seasons, have the cheapest prices in the Premier League, and are even the right side of three clubs in the Conference.
Wealth distribution: another area of fairness that does not set Wenger’s antennae twitching. In 2012-13, for getting eliminated at the Champions League knockout stage by the first good team they played, Arsenal pocketed £26.1million and Manchester United £29.6m.
UEFA also pass a solidarity payment to the Premier League to distribute among the other 16 clubs. Last year it was £1.3m split 16 ways — or £81,250 each. Sounds fair. Certainly, there is no complaint from Wenger.
‘If you say to me tomorrow that the 20 Premier League clubs get £100m each, I’m OK, I’ll take the gamble,’ he said last week, with the air of a man who knows his real odds are £26.1m versus £81,250. The clubs in the Champions League command 79 per cent of the competition revenue, and Michel Platini, the UEFA president, says wealth redistribution is a matter for those clubs. Are Arsenal going to start giving away their fortune to create fairer domestic competitions? Is Wenger lobbying his friend Platini to engineer this great leap forward? Guess again.
So, for all his much-vaunted fairness, Wenger’s take on matters that affect his club is about as impartial as Jose Mourinho’s opinion of what makes a good referee. Wenger’s sense of justice is, bottom line, whatever works for him and Arsenal. Fair’s fair.
Saul Goodman wrote:Can we be booted from the CL next season if our appeal fails? I keep reading that if we fail with our appeal we could face a harsher punishment than the one initially levied.
bayblue wrote:Looks like a big game of poker is going on at the moment. Clearly UEFA just wanted us to take our punishment like naughty boys and would appear to be in a dilemma as to what to do next.
Somehow don't fancy our appeal chances though, if we are forced to go to appeal then sure UEFA wouldn't go if there's a chance of them losing.
In which case it's a messy legal battle looming.
lets all have a disco wrote:I personally wont be attending Champions league matches for reasons below.
1. They are a rip off
2. They are a rip off
3. I dont want to line UEFA pockets
4. I dont want to line Platini's pockets
5 . UEFA are cunts.
I'd rather challenge the bent crooks and get thrown out than have those arsewipes dictating to us that our owner cant spend his/our money on the club.
Dwaring wrote:I see sheikh is taking care of business. That's an unfortunate "fall".
Nigels Tackle wrote:Dwaring wrote:I see sheikh is taking care of business. That's an unfortunate "fall".
by the look of him, he went to the same gym as bob crow
amazed he lived to 73
looked him up on wikipedia - he had the weirdest signature i've seen
Dwaring wrote:I see sheikh is taking care of business. That's an unfortunate "fall".
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