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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby blues2win » Mon May 12, 2014 11:47 am

Wonder whether UEFA will put out the news tomorrow to avoid being accused of interfering with our Parade. Presumably those who accept their punishment will be named at the least which will make it very clear if we haven't.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Dameerto » Mon May 12, 2014 1:48 pm

blues2win wrote:Wonder whether UEFA will put out the news tomorrow to avoid being accused of interfering with our Parade. Presumably those who accept their punishment will be named at the least which will make it very clear if we haven't.

They will do exactly what they want - they were all set to release it two days before our crucial final game of the season so I don't think our parade will enter the equation at all, if it's delayed again it will be for some other reason.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby gillie » Mon May 12, 2014 1:55 pm

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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby lets all have a disco » Mon May 12, 2014 2:04 pm

I personally wont be attending Champions league matches for reasons below.

1. They are a rip off
2. They are a rip off
3. I dont want to line UEFA pockets
4. I dont want to line Platini's pockets
5 . UEFA are cunts.

I'd rather challenge the bent crooks and get thrown out than have those arsewipes dictating to us that our owner cant spend his/our money on the club.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby bayblue » Mon May 12, 2014 4:08 pm

Looks like a big game of poker is going on at the moment. Clearly UEFA just wanted us to take our punishment like naughty boys and would appear to be in a dilemma as to what to do next.

Somehow don't fancy our appeal chances though, if we are forced to go to appeal then sure UEFA wouldn't go if there's a chance of them losing.

In which case it's a messy legal battle looming.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Saul Goodman » Mon May 12, 2014 5:26 pm

Can we be booted from the CL next season if our appeal fails? I keep reading that if we fail with our appeal we could face a harsher punishment than the one initially levied.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby nottsblue » Mon May 12, 2014 5:55 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Martin Samuel on Wenger. Quality.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... razil.html

And while we're at it

Considering he thinks it is right for Manchester City to be expelled from the Champions League, sometimes it is amusing to consider what Arsene Wenger feels is fair in football. Rewarding failure, for instance. Very fair. Arsenal, his club, have not been anywhere near the Premier League trophy for 10 years now, yet are consistently seeded in Pot 1 of the Champions League draw, and have been since 2000-01.

UEFA’s co-efficient system, which takes historical form into account and therefore protects the biggest and richest clubs from one ordinary season — or in Arsenal’s case, nine — will come to Wenger’s rescue again this summer. Despite having to go through another qualification play-off, providing Arsenal progress, Wenger already knows his team are among the highest seeds for 2014-15, no matter the fourth-place finish.

Manchester City, the actual champions in two of the previous three seasons, will be in Pot 2, if lucky. Borussia Dortmund won the Bundesliga in 2011-12 and were placed in Pot 4. ‘Nobody has ever won the Champions League from Pot 4,’ explained Dortmund chief executive officer Hans-Joachim Watzke. Still no word from Wenger on this, so it’s probably fair.

Sky-high ticket prices; also fair. This season Arsenal had the highest priced season ticket in the league (£1,955) and the top priced cheapest season ticket, too, at £985. As Arsenal play Hull City on Saturday looking for their first trophy since 2005, some might think this poor value for money. Not Wenger. No word condemns Arsenal for squeezing their public, despite the advantage of a 60,000 capacity stadium.

‘The only way we can pay the wages and compete without any external help is through the ticket prices,’ he said in January 2013. ‘It is our main income so, of course, the prices are high. It is down to every individual to decide. If you want to go to a concert tomorrow, you look at the price of a ticket and if it is too high, you say yes or no.’

This is the upmarket version of like it or lump it, really. Super fair. Manchester City, meanwhile, on the back of two titles, the FA Cup and the League Cup in the last four seasons, have the cheapest prices in the Premier League, and are even the right side of three clubs in the Conference.

Wealth distribution: another area of fairness that does not set Wenger’s antennae twitching. In 2012-13, for getting eliminated at the Champions League knockout stage by the first good team they played, Arsenal pocketed £26.1million and Manchester United £29.6m.

UEFA also pass a solidarity payment to the Premier League to distribute among the other 16 clubs. Last year it was £1.3m split 16 ways — or £81,250 each. Sounds fair. Certainly, there is no complaint from Wenger.

‘If you say to me tomorrow that the 20 Premier League clubs get £100m each, I’m OK, I’ll take the gamble,’ he said last week, with the air of a man who knows his real odds are £26.1m versus £81,250. The clubs in the Champions League command 79 per cent of the competition revenue, and Michel Platini, the UEFA president, says wealth redistribution is a matter for those clubs. Are Arsenal going to start giving away their fortune to create fairer domestic competitions? Is Wenger lobbying his friend Platini to engineer this great leap forward? Guess again.

So, for all his much-vaunted fairness, Wenger’s take on matters that affect his club is about as impartial as Jose Mourinho’s opinion of what makes a good referee. Wenger’s sense of justice is, bottom line, whatever works for him and Arsenal. Fair’s fair.


Great article. Shows up Wenger for the "I'm all right Jack" attitude that the g14 clubs possess. More and more media outlets are publishing this kind of stuff which once it gathers momemtum will be difficult to stop
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Lee_R » Mon May 12, 2014 7:41 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:Can we be booted from the CL next season if our appeal fails? I keep reading that if we fail with our appeal we could face a harsher punishment than the one initially levied.


I actually hope so. It could be the start of the end for UEFA.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 13, 2014 5:28 am

bayblue wrote:Looks like a big game of poker is going on at the moment. Clearly UEFA just wanted us to take our punishment like naughty boys and would appear to be in a dilemma as to what to do next.

Somehow don't fancy our appeal chances though, if we are forced to go to appeal then sure UEFA wouldn't go if there's a chance of them losing.

In which case it's a messy legal battle looming.


It was always looming. From day one.
UEFA appeal is just pointless step in what we are looking to do. Challenge the FFP ruling in court.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby zuricity » Tue May 13, 2014 5:42 am

lets all have a disco wrote:I personally wont be attending Champions league matches for reasons below.

1. They are a rip off
2. They are a rip off
3. I dont want to line UEFA pockets
4. I dont want to line Platini's pockets
5 . UEFA are cunts.

I'd rather challenge the bent crooks and get thrown out than have those arsewipes dictating to us that our owner cant spend his/our money on the club.


This is the best approach. Challenge them in court. Remember, Platini hasn't done this to protect Bury,Wigan or even Everton. He did this to protect the status quo of the old guard.
As i have mentioned a few times, if they live in our world they are feeling the change of the guard.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue May 13, 2014 9:22 am

Rumours from France suggesting PSG are seeking to 'renegotiate' their settlement in view of City's hardline stance.

I wonder if that is from the same source which claimed all this in the first place, & whether there has ever been a 'settlement' with PSG at all.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Goaters 103 » Tue May 13, 2014 9:51 am

Said it a while ago but its in City and PSGs interests to potentially team up here in a legal battle.

Lets see what happens.
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby JamieMCFC » Thu May 15, 2014 6:38 pm

Head of UEFA's FFP panel dies

The head of UEFA's Financial Fair Play investigatory chamber has died. Jean-Luc Dehaene would have been the person to sign off any settlement agreement with Manchester City, who have been investigated for a breach of FFP rules.

The head of UEFA's Financial Fair Play investigatory chamber has died.

Jean-Luc Dehaene, a former Belgian prime minister, has reportedly passed away after a fall in France aged 73.

Dehaene would have been the person to sign off any settlement agreement with Manchester City, who have been investigated for a breach of FFP rules.

City are facing a £49m fine and a reduction in Champions League squad size from 25 to 21, but there has been no outcome over a proposed settlement over final figures.

The death of Dehaene could explain the delay.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ef-7126835
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Dwaring » Thu May 15, 2014 7:01 pm

I see sheikh is taking care of business. That's an unfortunate "fall".
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu May 15, 2014 7:16 pm

Dwaring wrote:I see sheikh is taking care of business. That's an unfortunate "fall".


by the look of him, he went to the same gym as bob crow
amazed he lived to 73
looked him up on wikipedia - he had the weirdest signature i've seen
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Wooders » Thu May 15, 2014 7:22 pm

Jesus wept thats a but suspish!
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby BlueinBosnia » Thu May 15, 2014 7:33 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:
Dwaring wrote:I see sheikh is taking care of business. That's an unfortunate "fall".


by the look of him, he went to the same gym as bob crow
amazed he lived to 73
looked him up on wikipedia - he had the weirdest signature i've seen


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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Benjay » Thu May 15, 2014 7:55 pm

Dwaring wrote:I see sheikh is taking care of business. That's an unfortunate "fall".


Where's Agent Moyes?? Is he posted abroad "undercover".
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu May 15, 2014 8:24 pm

One down......
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Re: Platini: No Ban For Failing FFP This Time Around

Postby Breks » Thu May 15, 2014 9:01 pm

Please let platini be next.
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