IS Bobby Mancini THE MAN?

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IS ROBERTO MANCINI THE MAN TO LEAD CITY TO THE TITLE?

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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby zuricity » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:14 am

walmai wrote:Brian Kidd? WTF?

Is he a choice made by Mancini, or are these Middle Eastern moguls deliberately trying to wind you lot up?

Who next on the COMS gravy train? Captain Marvel the Sports Psychologist?


Walmai, you're a nice fella, but I must tell you that Brian Kidd is very well respected for his coaching skills and his interaction with the squad. He worked very well at old trafford under Fergie. It's actually not a bad addition.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:18 am

I think this goes to show that our custodians are not really interested in a semi-final or 6th in the league. They are interested in winning!

I to was prepared to stick with Hughes and watch the progression come around naturally, rather than overnight (we bought the league). This is not the case and they want it now and Mancini is the man they see achieving this, but what I think is a little strange is the reported 6 month clause if he doesn't get us to 4th.

I've gone for 'Unsure' with a caveat of 'Very'!
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby walmai » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:19 am

zuricity wrote:
walmai wrote:Brian Kidd? WTF?

Is he a choice made by Mancini, or are these Middle Eastern moguls deliberately trying to wind you lot up?

Who next on the COMS gravy train? Captain Marvel the Sports Psychologist?


Walmai, you're a nice fella, but I must tell you that Brian Kidd is very well respected for his coaching skills and his interaction with the squad. He worked very well at old trafford under Fergie. It's actually not a bad addition.


I knew that, but there is still something incongruous in lodging Sparky - in circumstances where his very presence as manager was controversial for some - and hiring Kidd as Assistant Manager. You're right, its not a bad addition. It just made me chuckle to hear it.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby david yearsley » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:21 am

After allowing the dust to settle a little I´m left confused and facing a dichotomy

On one hand Hughes was seeming more and more like the proverbial D.M.W., defensively and tactically naive but he´d achieved what most of us were asking for with , lets not forget, some scintillating football. I believed the owners were honourable people with a long term picture and for that reason I expected Les to get till new year , as with another 2 wins we´d be very close to top 4, yet on the other hand the owners have backed him to the hilt and he WASN´T their appointment. I´d heard so much about "team building for a long term legacy" and now I see the possibility within 12 months of Mancini being shown the door and we fall into the same old downward spiral . Would Hughes have done worse or better in the same 12 months? We´ll never know , but I fear that forums like this , where lets face it , many of us don´t actually go to games (regularly anyway) and some of the panic about Platini´s hare - brained plans have forced their hand to an extent. A part of me will always think "what if Hughes had stayed around 5 or even 10 years?" , " would we have created a Baconface type hegemony?" , coz lets face it, it was blue from Chaddy called Mark Robbins that saved Ferguscums arse after 3 and a half years of abject failure.

Time waits for no man and none of us can change the course of what is now history so Mancini will get my full support and I hope unanimous backing from the City faithful as we sweep all before us, but you can´t help feeling it won´t be long before we´re having this debate again - that´s football these days - you can´t stop the bus and demand to get off - old Corinthian values are long gone and "success now!" is king whether you like it or not. Perhaps most of us on here would take a couple of quick trophies and then return to the circus we´ve been used to for so long.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby lets all have a disco » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:21 am

walmai wrote:
zuricity wrote:
walmai wrote:Brian Kidd? WTF?

Is he a choice made by Mancini, or are these Middle Eastern moguls deliberately trying to wind you lot up?

Who next on the COMS gravy train? Captain Marvel the Sports Psychologist?


Walmai, you're a nice fella, but I must tell you that Brian Kidd is very well respected for his coaching skills and his interaction with the squad. He worked very well at old trafford under Fergie. It's actually not a bad addition.


I knew that, but there is still something incongruous in lodging Sparky - in circumstances where his very presence as manager was controversial for some - and hiring Kidd as Assistant Manager. You're right, its not a bad addition. It just made me chuckle to hear it.



Word is were going after Ryan Giggs as a motivational speaker for the dressing room.

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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Renato_CTID » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:24 am

Keep faith in this man, mates! He will show to all the world how big mistake Moratti made sacking him! Mancio (this is his official nickname!) will hardly work to teach his new players how to score regularly from corners and free kicks. Robinho, Petrov, Kompany and Weiss will play much more games than with Hughesy: that's my own opinion!
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby zuricity » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:29 am

lets all have a disco wrote:
walmai wrote:
zuricity wrote:
walmai wrote:Brian Kidd? WTF?

Is he a choice made by Mancini, or are these Middle Eastern moguls deliberately trying to wind you lot up?

Who next on the COMS gravy train? Captain Marvel the Sports Psychologist?


Walmai, you're a nice fella, but I must tell you that Brian Kidd is very well respected for his coaching skills and his interaction with the squad. He worked very well at old trafford under Fergie. It's actually not a bad addition.


I knew that, but there is still something incongruous in lodging Sparky - in circumstances where his very presence as manager was controversial for some - and hiring Kidd as Assistant Manager. You're right, its not a bad addition. It just made me chuckle to hear it.



Word is were going after Ryan Giggs as a motivational speaker for the dressing room.

Full of charisma is that lad.


Walmai, I've been watching City since the early sixties. I don't have a problem with Man United, I'd go and watch Georgie Best there when i had time and money as well. Some people hate United, I don't. I just ignore them.

As far as ex reds coming to city , or the other ways around , I don't care about that either, I just want City to play atttractive ,clean football, and try and win every game they play. Whether an ex red is coaching city or not doesn't bother me at all. Chances are, he will have witnessed some form of success, unlike Hughes's croanies, who have also been dismissed.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby CityFanFromRome » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:30 am

Renato_CTID wrote:Keep faith in this man, mates! He will show to all the world how big mistake Moratti made sacking him! Mancio (this is his official nickname!) will hardly work to teach his new players how to score regularly from corners and free kicks. Robinho, Petrov, Kompany and Weiss will play much more games than with Hughesy: that's my own opinion!

Weiss for sure, Petrov maybe, Robinho did play quite a bit under Hughes too and so did Kompany last season, both of them had injuries in this one.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Renato_CTID » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:35 am

And I forgot Zabba! He'll be regular from the 1st game, Mancio will have a sort of younger Xavier Zanetti!
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Socrates » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:35 am

walmai wrote:
zuricity wrote:
walmai wrote:Brian Kidd? WTF?

Is he a choice made by Mancini, or are these Middle Eastern moguls deliberately trying to wind you lot up?

Who next on the COMS gravy train? Captain Marvel the Sports Psychologist?


Walmai, you're a nice fella, but I must tell you that Brian Kidd is very well respected for his coaching skills and his interaction with the squad. He worked very well at old trafford under Fergie. It's actually not a bad addition.


I knew that, but there is still something incongruous in lodging Sparky - in circumstances where his very presence as manager was controversial for some - and hiring Kidd as Assistant Manager. You're right, its not a bad addition. It just made me chuckle to hear it.


Walmai, I take it you know that Brian Kidd was a big success as a player for City? 44 goals in 98 appearances and a major player in the side that narrowly lost out to Liverpool for the title (incidentally the last time we were actually seriously any bloody good!)? Many blues in their 40's and older have very fond memories of him and a high regard for him. So his impressive, but rag-tainted, CV will be read in a positive, or at least neutral, light by many people.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby thegoatfeeder » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:04 pm

I'll be fine with the guy as long as we are winning most games and he doesn't automatically bring Robinho and Adebayor back into the team next weekend. I want to see the players who have been carrying us this season who maybe less glamorous given a fair crack of the whip and hopefully the influence of Kidd will ensure that.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Socrates » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:13 pm

thegoatfeeder wrote:I'll be fine with the guy as long as we are winning most games and he doesn't automatically bring Robinho and Adebayor back into the team next weekend. I want to see the players who have been carrying us this season who maybe less glamorous given a fair crack of the whip and hopefully the influence of Kidd will ensure that.


I think that's a ridiculous statement! You will be angry if he brings those 2 back then? But what if this week's training sees a newly motivated Robinho and Ade who are excited by their new, more technically gifted, coach? And what if Bellamy and Santa Cruz are sulking this week because the manager they were close to has been fired? We won't know if that's the reason so you will assume he's brought the big names back and attack him after his first game? Sorry mate but WHAT THE FUCK?
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby OliverHardy » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:14 pm

Profile on the new guy

* Born: Nov. 27, 1964 in Jesi, Italy.

* Makes debut for Bologna in 1981, becoming the youngest player to compete in Italy's top flight.

* In 1982, moves to Sampdoria to begin a 15-year career at the Genoa-based club, during which he won four Italian Cups, one UEFA Cup Winners Cup (1990) and one Serie A title (1991).

* Makes international debut for Italy in 1984 in a friendly against Canada. Goes on to make 36 international appearances, scoring four goals.

* In 1997 joins Lazio, where he is reunited with his former Sampdoria coach, Sven-Goran Eriksson.

* In 2000, Lazio win only their second Serie A title. A year later Mancini begins coaching career as Eriksson's assistant.

* In January 2001, leaves Lazio to go on loan to English Premier League side Leicester City, but returns after four matches to become coach of Fiorentina, whom he leads to Italian Cup victory.

* Resigns from Fiorentina in 2002 as club heads toward bankruptcy.

* In August 2002, returns to Lazio as coach. Despite close-season sales of key players Alessandro Nesta and Hernan Crespo and threat of bankruptcy, Mancini steers the club to fourth in Serie A.

* In 2004, Lazio win Italian Cup, defeating Juventus in the final, and finish sixth in the league for a UEFA Cup berth.

* In July 2004, is released from his contract by Lazio and shortly afterwards is named coach of Inter Milan.

* Mancini leads Inter to the Italian Cup in 2005 and 2006 and consecutive Serie A titles in 2006, 2007 and 2008.

* In March 2008, he says he wants to quit at end of season following Inter's Champions League last-16 elimination by Liverpool, only to change his mind the next day.

* Sacked at the end of the campaign.

* In 2009, appointed as Manchester City manager on December 19
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby thegoatfeeder » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:23 pm

Socrates wrote:
thegoatfeeder wrote:I'll be fine with the guy as long as we are winning most games and he doesn't automatically bring Robinho and Adebayor back into the team next weekend. I want to see the players who have been carrying us this season who maybe less glamorous given a fair crack of the whip and hopefully the influence of Kidd will ensure that.


I think that's a ridiculous statement! You will be angry if he brings those 2 back then? But what if this week's training sees a newly motivated Robinho and Ade who are excited by their new, more technically gifted, coach? And what if Bellamy and Santa Cruz are sulking this week because the manager they were close to has been fired? We won't know if that's the reason so you will assume he's brought the big names back and attack him after his first game? Sorry mate but WHAT THE FUCK?


I take on board what you are saying mate. All I am saying is, say the 2 of them remain professional in training this week as I am sure/hope they will, is that I don't want the team to be picked based on reputation.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Socrates » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:29 pm

thegoatfeeder wrote:
Socrates wrote:
thegoatfeeder wrote:I'll be fine with the guy as long as we are winning most games and he doesn't automatically bring Robinho and Adebayor back into the team next weekend. I want to see the players who have been carrying us this season who maybe less glamorous given a fair crack of the whip and hopefully the influence of Kidd will ensure that.


I think that's a ridiculous statement! You will be angry if he brings those 2 back then? But what if this week's training sees a newly motivated Robinho and Ade who are excited by their new, more technically gifted, coach? And what if Bellamy and Santa Cruz are sulking this week because the manager they were close to has been fired? We won't know if that's the reason so you will assume he's brought the big names back and attack him after his first game? Sorry mate but WHAT THE FUCK?


I take on board what you are saying mate. All I am saying is, say the 2 of them remain professional in training this week as I am sure/hope they will, is that I don't want the team to be picked based on reputation.


To my knowledge, Mancini has a reputation for NOT picking on reputation. He ended the failed policy of building teams around big name signings at Inter.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:29 pm

thegoatfeeder wrote:
Socrates wrote:
thegoatfeeder wrote:I'll be fine with the guy as long as we are winning most games and he doesn't automatically bring Robinho and Adebayor back into the team next weekend. I want to see the players who have been carrying us this season who maybe less glamorous given a fair crack of the whip and hopefully the influence of Kidd will ensure that.


I think that's a ridiculous statement! You will be angry if he brings those 2 back then? But what if this week's training sees a newly motivated Robinho and Ade who are excited by their new, more technically gifted, coach? And what if Bellamy and Santa Cruz are sulking this week because the manager they were close to has been fired? We won't know if that's the reason so you will assume he's brought the big names back and attack him after his first game? Sorry mate but WHAT THE FUCK?


I take on board what you are saying mate. All I am saying is, say the 2 of them remain professional in training this week as I am sure/hope they will, is that I don't want the team to be picked based on reputation.



Yeah - that is how I read your 1st post - I would like to see RSC continue - just for practicality that we are about to lose Ade anyway - I am just not sure what he will make of Bellers, SWP, Stevie
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby The Man In Blue » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:40 pm

is it ok if i give him a month or two, then decide i dont like him and turn every thread i comment on into a mancini out debate?


seriously though, he better had be. i liked hughes, and for us to fuck him off in such a manner mancini needs to be grade A. which his record does not convince me he is. dont give me that "3 titles" crap, he won only one of those. the first two were either literally or figuratively handed to him.

i'll back him but i am still fucking furious and gutted about how he has come to be here, and that is not a good start.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby King Kev » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:41 pm

Like many others I don't know enough about our new manager to have an opinion on whether or not he is the right man for us. The thing is, our owners have their own man at the helm now so I suppose they will live or die by their choice.
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby Socrates » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:44 pm

King Kev wrote:Like many others I don't know enough about our new manager to have an opinion on whether or not he is the right man for us. The thing is, our owners have their own man at the helm now so I suppose they will live or die by their choice.


Put it another way, I'll have to hide in the cupboard under the stairs if he isn't...
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Re: IS MANCINI THE MAN

Postby ant london » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:52 pm

Socrates wrote:
King Kev wrote:Like many others I don't know enough about our new manager to have an opinion on whether or not he is the right man for us. The thing is, our owners have their own man at the helm now so I suppose they will live or die by their choice.


Put it another way, I'll have to hide in the cupboard under the stairs if he isn't...



haha......that tickled me

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