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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:23 am

Bluez wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Absolutely. Some people were saying ridiculous stuff like "look, he didn't go to Sunderland". Why would man with his experience of success and managing in a big club go to Sunderland or Blackburn?

I really genuinely hope we appoint Mancini after Hughes. Young, experience of spending money, experience of winning stuff, experience of managing big egos, experience of getting best out of players he has got, tactically astute and young. He could, and in my opinion would, be our Wenger.


Doesn't that raise the question, if he is so good why have none of the bigger clubs gone for him?


Like who?

Rags got Taggart
Arsenal got Wenger
Chelsea went for Ancellotti which is fair enough
Scousepool have Rafa
Barcelona have Pep
He left Inter and Jose came after him
Real went for Pellegrini probably because he is native Spanish speaker and his knowledge of Spanish league

Other than that I can't see any job really interesting him apart from ours. Only two of those jobs have been available at any stage.¨

Why none of the big clubs have ever gone for Hughes by the way?
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby Fidel Castro » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:26 am

lets all have a disco wrote:
Fidel Castro wrote:Has anyone actually looked at Hiddink's club record?
It's not that impressive, people are judging him on his achievements with Australia and South Korea - why?


He's better than Co Bloody Adriannse.


Why? Adriaanse got a club which is usually a relegation candidate into the champions league. He also transformed AZ from a newly promoted shit side into UEFA Cup semi-finalists. He laid the foundations there, van Gaal finished the job and won the league with them.

Hiddink was brilliant with Australia and South Korea. Failed everywhere at club level except with PSV, which isn't that hard with their squad.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:36 am

Fidel Castro wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:
Fidel Castro wrote:Has anyone actually looked at Hiddink's club record?
It's not that impressive, people are judging him on his achievements with Australia and South Korea - why?


He's better than Co Bloody Adriannse.


Why? Adriaanse got a club which is usually a relegation candidate into the champions league. He also transformed AZ from a newly promoted shit side into UEFA Cup semi-finalists. He laid the foundations there, van Gaal finished the job and won the league with them.

Hiddink was brilliant with Australia and South Korea. Failed everywhere at club level except with PSV, which isn't that hard with their squad.


Same could be said about City.

I agree with Adriaanse by the way. Quality manager althought how his strict regime would work with world stars is anybody's guess.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:57 am

Fidel Castro wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:
Fidel Castro wrote:Has anyone actually looked at Hiddink's club record?
It's not that impressive, people are judging him on his achievements with Australia and South Korea - why?


He's better than Co Bloody Adriannse.


Why? Adriaanse got a club which is usually a relegation candidate into the champions league. He also transformed AZ from a newly promoted shit side into UEFA Cup semi-finalists. He laid the foundations there, van Gaal finished the job and won the league with them.

Hiddink was brilliant with Australia and South Korea. Failed everywhere at club level except with PSV, which isn't that hard with their squad.



Mate i looked at his track record and its not the best.
Plus,i think we should be getting a bigger name how many big names has co managed?
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby Socrates » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:02 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bluez wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Absolutely. Some people were saying ridiculous stuff like "look, he didn't go to Sunderland". Why would man with his experience of success and managing in a big club go to Sunderland or Blackburn?

I really genuinely hope we appoint Mancini after Hughes. Young, experience of spending money, experience of winning stuff, experience of managing big egos, experience of getting best out of players he has got, tactically astute and young. He could, and in my opinion would, be our Wenger.


Doesn't that raise the question, if he is so good why have none of the bigger clubs gone for him?


Like who?

Rags got Taggart
Arsenal got Wenger
Chelsea went for Ancellotti which is fair enough
Scousepool have Rafa
Barcelona have Pep
He left Inter and Jose came after him
Real went for Pellegrini probably because he is native Spanish speaker and his knowledge of Spanish league

Other than that I can't see any job really interesting him apart from ours. Only two of those jobs have been available at any stage.¨

Why none of the big clubs have ever gone for Hughes by the way?


Also, until very recently Mancini was still under contract to, and in dispute with, Inter. That is reportedly finally sorted. We are probably the only club around that could have got him before now as we have the sort of money available to make the contract dispute go away. That said I think he was pretty determined to make Inter pay up fully for what amounted to a wrongful dismissal and breach of contract. Yes he had a golden opportunity with Inter in Serie A but the point is that he TOOK IT! And did so with some panache. We shouldn't forget, as well, his success with both previous jobs where he also won trophies with lesser sides.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby lets all have a disco » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:12 pm

Dont forget Mancini does the best moody bench look out of all the candidates.

That is worth note,check him go.

He'll have the older ladies swooning in the Colin Bell Stand.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby mcfc1632 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:16 pm

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mcfc1632 wrote:Well I do not know why this needs another thread - seems a weak and transparent way of breaking the rules - but please please not that shallow egotist Jose - the 'project' would have some shine for a year - we would hear a lot about him and then it would be set back several years - people are so easily tempted to give up the long term domination for a short term bit of gloss
So who do you reckon suitable for this long term domination? So far, no manager has achieved it if not Taggart with the scum, all the other big clubs have changed managers often, or haven't been that successful, like Wenger at Arsenal or Rafa at Liverpool (and he's not been there that long after all, what is it, four years?). Chelsea, Barca, Bayern, Real Madrid, Juventus, Milan, Inter, every big club has changed manager, for a reason or another, every two or three seasons, with the exception of Milan which kept Ancelotti for seven years I think, and not all of those seven years have been successful.



I fully accept that I was not giving an answer on who - just essentially saying anyone (obviously top coach) other than Jose.

That is because for us to dominate we need to be world class at all levels - that is why we need to see this as a 10 year project. Yes the 1st team coach in 2010 needs to bring the immediate on the field success, but it is the overall approach to attracting the worlds best youths - grooming them - bringing them through etc that will make it sustainable.

In such respects Jose IMO is a terrible choice - if he was here he would have to have his involvement strictly limited to 1st team selection as he seems to have zero attention to the strategic / less glamorous side - otherwise he would be headline making but it would end in a vacuum - perhaps Hiddink as a safe pair of hands for a year or 2..
but personally - and I am genuinely not a big Hughes fan - I would stick with Hughes up to the end of the season and take stock - decision to be taken end March - to either back or replace
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby bobadji » Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:18 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:
bobadji wrote:Hiddink
Mourinho
Ranieri

In that order. Looking at that list, may as well shove Scolari and Grant on there. Chelsea have wasted a few top managers.


Dont forget

Steve McLaren has won a trophy in England.


I'd love Mclaren, I'm just not sure he could, how you say, grasp the language quick enough.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby Socrates » Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:30 pm

lets all have a disco wrote:Dont forget Mancini does the best moody bench look out of all the candidates.

That is worth note,check him go.

He'll have the older ladies swooning in the Colin Bell Stand.
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There is however the danger that he might start singing Chanson d'Amour, in the half time interval, so that could be a concern.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby Nick » Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:46 pm

Still get why mancini would be unemployed if hes as good as hes made out. Its the same in any line of work, even if hes gods gift, hes been out of the game for a while, as the years pass his employability diminishes. If i fuck about when I;ve finished uni they'd be an even slimmer chance of me getting a half decent job! Most football managers jump at the first job that comes there way when they've left a club.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby CityFanFromRome » Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:42 pm

Nick wrote:Still get why mancini would be unemployed if hes as good as hes made out. Its the same in any line of work, even if hes gods gift, hes been out of the game for a while, as the years pass his employability diminishes. If i fuck about when I;ve finished uni they'd be an even slimmer chance of me getting a half decent job! Most football managers jump at the first job that comes there way when they've left a club.

Till a month ago or so he was still tied with a contract to Inter, and no club would have been able to offer him what he was getting from them for doing nothing. Why would he accept an offer from Sunderland if he could get twice the wage for doing nothing and maybe attract the interest of a better club in the meantime?
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby citytilidie » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:01 pm

ROY HODGSON
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby stockportblue » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:39 pm

Arsene Wenger -the football would be worth watching unlike with Mourihno.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby BlueinBosnia » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:11 pm

IF Hughes were to go before the Semi-Final he got us into:

O'Neill
Rijkard
Mourinho


(Or anyone except Hiddink)
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby failsworthblue » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:18 pm

Mourinho.

I will go and pick him up from Milan tonight!!
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby mr_nool » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:21 pm

citytilidie wrote:ROY HODGSON

i'm actually a huge fan of roy hodgson, but there are a couple of problems. one being that he's under contract, another being that he's as untested as hughes when it comes to managing a big club full of superstars.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby BlueinBosnia » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:35 pm

mr_nool wrote:
citytilidie wrote:ROY HODGSON

i'm actually a huge fan of roy hodgson, but there are a couple of problems. one being that he's under contract, another being that he's as untested as hughes when it comes to managing a big club full of superstars.


Inter?

If a penalty shootout had gone the other way, his record would be almost identical to Hiddink's.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby mr_nool » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:41 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
citytilidie wrote:ROY HODGSON

i'm actually a huge fan of roy hodgson, but there are a couple of problems. one being that he's under contract, another being that he's as untested as hughes when it comes to managing a big club full of superstars.


Inter?

If a penalty shootout had gone the other way, his record would be almost identical to Hiddink's.

gah, forgot about his only big club! never the less, he doesn't have a top manager pedigree.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby cdncityfan » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:55 pm

Three qualifying criteria:
1. Has managed in Europe before (preferably in the Champions League).
2. Has managed a major club in Europe with similar ambitions to City.
3. IS NOT A FORMER MANCHESTER UNITED PLAYER!!!

For the sake of argument, my choice would be either Marcelo Lippi or Vincente Del Bosque.
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Re: If You Could Pick Our New Manager

Postby Citizen of Oslo » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:11 pm

A young and promising Portugese manager learnt some of his tricks in the early 80's from one of the game's best coaches ever - Malcolm Allison. For that reason together with Mourinho's record I would, in Keeganesque words, just love him as our next manager.
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