Your views on tonights game?

[9secondlegend]

It's been some years since watching city has pissed me off as much as it did tonight. I'm a glass full kind of guy and i can barely muster a single plus from tonights game (my only plus being RSC who actually looked half decent) it's half 12 and im still fuming over this, there was no commitment, no tactical awareness, nothing, it was one of the worst city performances i have ever seen, we were utterly humbled by tottenham.

it's depressing... really depressing... i'm sitting here comfort eating a big ol' fat cheese sandwich and polishing off a pack of quavers. i know they say you shouldn't eat cheese before bed as it gives you nightmares, but fuck it, it can't be anything worse than what i've watched tonight.

comon city, i know you are better than this. pull your socks up lads and thrash sunderland for the sake of my health!

i keep reading about RSC playing well tonight. personally i thought he was aerage again. did fuck all. and was certianly not worth 17m.

[Blue Blood]

It's been some years since watching city has pissed me off as much as it did tonight. I'm a glass full kind of guy and i can barely muster a single plus from tonights game (my only plus being RSC who actually looked half decent) it's half 12 and im still fuming over this, there was no commitment, no tactical awareness, nothing, it was one of the worst city performances i have ever seen, we were utterly humbled by tottenham.

it's depressing... really depressing... i'm sitting here comfort eating a big ol' fat cheese sandwich and polishing off a pack of quavers. i know they say you shouldn't eat cheese before bed as it gives you nightmares, but fuck it, it can't be anything worse than what i've watched tonight.

comon city, i know you are better than this. pull your socks up lads and thrash sunderland for the sake of my health!

i keep reading about RSC playing well tonight. personally i thought he was aerage again. did fuck all. and was certianly not worth 17m.

in a team that did less than fuck all tonight, fuck all was an improvement.

[BlueMoonAwoken]

What I'm really disappointed about is the way in which we lost the game- no resilience, no character. In this run of draws we've had one positive was that we showed the determination to come back and the players worked hard for their goals but tonight we lacked any kind of energy and it's one of the most lacklustre efforts I've seen in years.

Tactically, it didn't look as though there was any genuine shape or plan. Our positional sense was woeful and that allowed Spurs, on numerous occasions, to walk through the middle of the park unscathed. Barry simply doesn't dominate in the central areas, I've lost count of the amount of times he's been caught in possession and despite trying to lift us late on, he was very poor for 70 minutes or so. De Jong followed the ball too much, affording them time and space. Sylvinho was terrorised by Lennon and had to resort to stupid fouls to give himself a breather. Adebayor was lifeless and hopeless, Tevez tried to create but kept running into brick walls, Robinho was barely involved, as per usual away from home and Ireland was probably our best player on the night- which speaks volumes. He uncharacteristically gave the ball away a lot tonight and when he did try to orchestrate attacks, the others simply weren't on the same wavelength.

We've also become extremely poor at set pieces. Robinho and Tevez took corners that didn't even beat the first man, Barry's efforts were better but still lead to nothing. You'd think with the physicality players like Adebayor, Richards, Onuoha and Touré have that we'd be a lot stronger from those situations, but since around September the goals have completely dried up from that aspect.

And once again, it's a sloppy goal that set the opposition on their way. The organisation of the defensive side of the team is all over the place in truth- we've managed to paper over the cracks in that regard by scoring plenty of goals, but when they dry up the reality of our vulnerability smacks you in the face. Touré, overall, has been disappointing, as has Lescott despite recent improvements. They just don't seem to communicate with each other and that's the starting point for silly mistakes and poor positioning.

In ten games we've lost once- but failed to win nine times. That suggests there's a lack of a winning mentality among these players and if this is our level of performance in the early stage of the season, I wonder how they'll cope when the pressure heats up at the 'business end'.

I always try to look for positives in our play, but tonight they're very difficult to find.

very well put i dont bother reading long posts but i did with yours.

[Dingus McDouchey]

anybody else wonder why we don't pump balls into the box from free kicks in the middle of the park?
we always go short, and end up having to pass thru 10 men.
seems like we are missing opportunities to whip in a free cross.
it's not like we are sending in any crosses from open play!

[dazby]

I just want to forget about it.

[mcfc1632]

EVERY PLAYER WAS ARSE. That's my view on tonights game.

Cannot accept that - although I am not far away. This was the worst game of the season my a mile and far too many players were 'not up for it' - Spurs players were first to every ball - and have you seen the size of their players!!! - so WTF were we just punting it long - we could not win the ball - only did once and then we needed to pick up the scraps if we were lucky

From my seat 'up in the gods' - Tevez had another good night - but he seemed to be our only creative option - so the ball was given to him all the time (on the occasions when we had the ball that is) - whether he had 2 players on him or not - felt sorry for the bloke - even he towards the end seem to tire of looking to link with players who were just not there

De Jong worked really hard - although I am not sure he was fit?

Kolo worked hard - but why does he have to do the role of more than one player all the time because others are out of position

Barry had a 'better game' - but that is set against his previous recent performances - so all is relative - the rest were gash

Do not know if anything has been posted, but could those watching on TV, was anything commented on the Rob substitution?? from my seat, the chemistry with Hughes as he came off did not look great?

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Our tactics from the very start put us on the back foot. No width what so ever, it was just painful to watch.

I feel fucking terrible after watching that dribble. Fairplay to Spurs for being the better side and they should of won by more.

Gutted, absolutely fucking gutted.

That pretty much sums up my feelings about last night. Went straight to bed after the game and decided not to even log on to here as I would've said some really nasty things probably.

The Cups are our last hope of resurrecting this season but Hughes will never in my lifetime be the manager to take us where we want to go in league. Transitional period manager but I'm pretty sure owners know now that there is no gloryladden future with Hughes.

[Chopper]

Thought that I might have been over reacting so I watched it again. The result against sunderland should just be postscript to his tenure. In my mind he's a former manager. Any lingering doubts have been answered.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Here goes.I havent read everything from last night as I choose not to read depressing negatives.Not that they wouldnt be deserved after last night's very poor effort.

First thoughts/reflections are about the team selection.Was it right? I heard mixed opinions but after 15 or 20 minutes we were playing ok and had started brightly popping the ball around and showing good movement.It started to tail away as Spurs got more into it and started closing down quicker and then the 2 things started to take shape.

First our lack of width started to prove a problem as Spurs could strangle us by pressing tight and we didn't have room to move. Our control of the ball stopped under this pressure and we never kept the ball. Second was the fact that Spurs seemed to be able to get the ball forward to whoever with ease and once they realised they only had to give the ball to Lennon and City were in chaos.

Whilst the defence weren't good the problem was more about the inability of the front players and the midfielders to hold the ball and allow us to play in their half. If you allow teams like Spurs to be at you AND defend with at least 3 players not involved you are asking for trouble. Tevez last night wasn't good. After a decent start he faded but the support he got from Adebayor and Robinho was awful.

It shows how important the quality in the attacking players is in the overall team effort. Last night we missed SWP and Bellers bigtime both for their ability to threaten wide and behind defences but also in the work they both do defending.

A really really disappointing performance more like many last year than to date this year and yet I am not as disappointed as I was after the games against Burnley , Hull and Fulham. The result might turn out to be good for the team IF it wakes them up to be braver both in terms of team selection and attitude. But that's a post for a different thread:)

[mr_nool]

Here goes.I havent read everything from last night as I choose not to read depressing negatives.Not that they wouldnt be deserved after last night's very poor effort.

First thoughts/reflections are about the team selection.Was it right? I heard mixed opinions but after 15 or 20 minutes we were playing ok and had started brightly popping the ball around and showing good movement.It started to tail away as Spurs got more into it and started closing down quicker and then the 2 things started to take shape.

First our lack of width started to prove a problem as Spurs could strangle us by pressing tight and we didn't have room to move. Our control of the ball stopped under this pressure and we never kept the ball. Second was the fact that Spurs seemed to be able to get the ball forward to whoever with ease and once they realised they only had to give the ball to Lennon and City were in chaos.

Whilst the defence weren't good the problem was more about the inability of the front players and the midfielders to hold the ball and allow us to play in their half. If you allow teams like Spurs to be at you AND defend with at least 3 players not involved you are asking for trouble. Tevez last night wasn't good. After a decent start he faded but the support he got from Adebayor and Robinho was awful.

It shows how important the quality in the attacking players is in the overall team effort. Last night we missed SWP and Bellers bigtime both for their ability to threaten wide and behind defences but also in the work they both do defending.

A really really disappointing performance more like many last year than to date this year and yet I am not as disappointed as I was after the games against Burnley , Hull and Fulham. The result might turn out to be good for the team IF it wakes them up to be braver both in terms of team selection and attitude. But that's a post for a different thread:)

That's an excellent post! I fully agree with your analysis.

[Vhero]

I said it once and will say it again. Hughes has a knack of getting the best out of average players like Bellamy however he has the opposite effect on good players like Adebayor and Robinho. Plus he simply cannot get them playing together and why the fuck can we not score off corners?? Am I the only one here who thinks when we get a corner from a great play we wasted a great play and nothings gonna come of the corner before we even tried?

[Mase]

This is my opinion.

People (including pundits) keep going on about Robbie not tracking back and covering for the left back. Well since he's come back from injury he's done a bit of that and in my view it's taken from his attacking game. I was under the impression that we brought Barry to the club to help out the left side? If Robbie comes back and makes a tackle near our box and we break, if the ball gets near someone like Tevez you know full well with Tevez going full pelt Robson is never gonna get near him.
It was obvious to everyone that Syl was getting skinned every time and it was only a matter of time before they scored with a move from their right. Wouldn't it have been good to say to Gareth Barry, "Listen mate, the left back is getting skinned. Seen as though you're a left sided midfielder can you help him out?"
Also, Ned is no where near as good as some City fans make him out to be. He is a good player, yes. Will he become a John Terry or a Rio Ferdinand, I'm not sure he will. Don't get me wrong, I hope he does. But I honestly don't think he will.

[paddyblue]

maybe we are overating the players signed by hughes,more than half his team could not hold down a first team place with their previous clubs


Toure and adebayor.= Both out of favour at arsenal
Bridge and swp = Both out of favour at chelsea
Robinho = out of favour at real
Tevez = out of favour at scum
Rsc = injury prone
Sylvinho = out of favour at barca

very good point mate.
i dont like hughes one bit BUT i thought he has made good signings but when you put it like that......

Total bollox..One of the worse posts ive ever read..

Toure was not for sale until we put a big offer in
Ade..Yes he had probs at Arse

Robson..Yup he was a sub when we signed him but there was more to him bein a sub in the 1st place wasnt there?
Tevez..Rags offered same price as we bought him for? Wasnt guaranteed a place in there 1st 11 so he fucked off ..
RSC is over his injuries and is fit?
Sylvinho....Was one of the best players in Chumps league final against rags....Abit old at 35 but a worthy backup to Bridge when unjured.
Your makin out that every one of these players have been a mistake? ffs

you have said its bo**ox yet you have agreed on every point except toure and rsc and even there you have used a question mark
i dont say mistakes as they are all good players but i said we might be overating them

[Original Dub]

anybody else wonder why we don't pump balls into the box from free kicks in the middle of the park?
we always go short, and end up having to pass thru 10 men.
seems like we are missing opportunities to whip in a free cross.
it's not like we are sending in any crosses from open play!

Very good point.

We started brightly and won about three set pieces in a row.... and fucked every one of them up badly.

I didn't take fuck all positives from the game. A bad day at the office, in fact I thought along with birmingham away, it was our worst of the season.

[carl_feedthegoat]

anybody else wonder why we don't pump balls into the box from free kicks in the middle of the park?
we always go short, and end up having to pass thru 10 men.
seems like we are missing opportunities to whip in a free cross.
it's not like we are sending in any crosses from open play!

Very good point.

We started brightly and won about three set pieces in a row.... and fucked every one of them up badly.

I didn't take fuck all positives from the game. A bad day at the office, in fact I thought along with birmingham away, it was our worst of the season.

ALL SET PIECES ARE DONE ON THE TRAINING GROUND - THIS IS THE PROBLEM IMO.........HUGHES DO YOUR SELF AND CITY A FAVOUR AND BRING IN SOME FRESH FACED TRAINING PERSONNEL AS IT,S PLAINLY OBVIOUS BOWEN ECT DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

YOUVE GOT TO ACT NOW !

[Nick]

where the fuck was ireland spose2 be playing?! Surely right wing but the guy blatantly refused. We had no width, MH is clueless. We cry out for Weiss or petrov and he brings rocky on! The guy is clueless. When the fuck is he gonna use weiss when we actually need him.