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by nottsblue » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:43 pm
A disgrace if he starts Sat. He may pick up "a small knock in training" & be unavailable for selection methinks
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by Ted Hughes » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:47 pm
Is his understudy going to be more reliable if picked regularly ?
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by gillie » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:13 pm
Ted Hughes wrote:Is his understudy going to be more reliable if picked regularly ?
Well we will never know unless he is given his chance will we Ted.
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by blues2win » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:18 pm
How can we possibly know. I can't quite believe he'll end up like Paul Robinson but there are no guarantees. If Pants does well against the Bar Codes he probably deserves another go. Will Hart react well or start telling his agent he wants a transfer? If he does he probably ought to get one. If Casillas is really available Txiki might well be interested. There again we need a centre back and probably a left back and I'm not sure they'll spend big in all three positions....
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by mr_nool » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:22 pm
Saying that Hart has cost us 2-3 trophies the last couple of seasons is very simplistic. Yes, he's had some real howlers that have cost us points,but he's also made some top notch saves, which have saved us points. In the same manner, our strikers have fluffed chances and scored screamers, our midfielders have missed passes and lost markings, but also made fabulous tackles and cut defences open.
Yes, Hart is out of form, but most points we have dropped so far have been down to collective shortcomings.
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by nottsblue » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:31 pm
Ted Hughes wrote:Is his understudy going to be more reliable if picked regularly ?
Only one way to find out. Do we still persist with Hart and trust to luck he suddenly finds form again? Or do we back his understudy for a few games and trust to luck he steps up. Either way both are on a hiding to nothing as the defence is as solid as a soft boiled egg. I personally favour giving Panti a go. He honestly cant do worse than Hart
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by Herb » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:34 pm
mr_nool wrote:Saying that Hart has cost us 2-3 trophies the last couple of seasons is very simplistic. Yes, he's had some real howlers that have cost us points,but he's also made some top notch saves, which have saved us points. In the same manner, our strikers have fluffed chances and scored screamers, our midfielders have missed passes and lost markings, but also made fabulous tackles and cut defences open.
Yes, Hart is out of form, but most points we have dropped so far have been down to collective shortcomings.
Is that you Joe?
If we had De Gea and the rags had Hart, we'd be top with a 9 point lead and they'd be in 12th place - that's the difference between a 'good' keeper and a 'top class' keeper - 12 places - think about it.
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by nottsblue » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:47 pm
nottsblue wrote:
Only one way to find out. Do we still persist with Hart and trust to luck he suddenly finds form again? Or do we back his understudy for a few games and trust to luck he steps up. Either way both are on a hiding to nothing as the defence is as solid as a soft boiled egg. I personally favour giving Panti a go. He honestly cant do worse than Hart
Forgot to add it might also be the rocket Hart clearly needs
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by Foreverinbluedreams » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:58 pm
mr_nool wrote:Saying that Hart has cost us 2-3 trophies the last couple of seasons is very simplistic. Yes, he's had some real howlers that have cost us points,but he's also made some top notch saves, which have saved us points. In the same manner, our strikers have fluffed chances and scored screamers, our midfielders have missed passes and lost markings, but also made fabulous tackles and cut defences open.
Yes, Hart is out of form, but most points we have dropped so far have been down to collective shortcomings.
No question that Hart cost us a point yesterday, it was all on him but you're spot on, it's good to see some sense amongst the foaming.
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by Rag_hater » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:01 pm
mr_nool wrote:Saying that Hart has cost us 2-3 trophies the last couple of seasons is very simplistic. Yes, he's had some real howlers that have cost us points,but he's also made some top notch saves, which have saved us points. In the same manner, our strikers have fluffed chances and scored screamers, our midfielders have missed passes and lost markings, but also made fabulous tackles and cut defences open.
Yes, Hart is out of form, but most points we have dropped so far have been down to collective shortcomings.
For me I think you make some very good points.
I would much rather keep someone we know has the ability but is having a bad patch rather than somebody who no one has much of an idea about.
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by Herb » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:11 pm
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:mr_nool wrote:Saying that Hart has cost us 2-3 trophies the last couple of seasons is very simplistic. Yes, he's had some real howlers that have cost us points,but he's also made some top notch saves, which have saved us points. In the same manner, our strikers have fluffed chances and scored screamers, our midfielders have missed passes and lost markings, but also made fabulous tackles and cut defences open.
Yes, Hart is out of form, but most points we have dropped so far have been down to collective shortcomings.
No question that Hart cost us a point yesterday, it was all on him but you're spot on, it's good to see some sense amongst the foaming.
Jeezus - it's Joe Hart meets Joe Harts most lovingly ardent fan . . . if they could only find another 6 Joe Hart fans they'd form a monks circle and celebrate (with gusto and jerky knees) how wonderful it is to have the man with the golden quiff between the uprights!
PS. Only joking fellas - I know that Mr Nool isn't really Joe Hart!
PPS. And sorry for being jocular and for spelling mistakes et al.
If we had De Gea and the rags had Hart, we'd be top with a 9 point lead and they'd be in 12th place - that's the difference between a 'good' keeper and a 'top class' keeper - 12 places - think about it.
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by Esky » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:19 pm
Individual PL Errors Since Start 2012/2013
Joe Hart - 8
Ali Al-Habsi - 7
Adam Federici - 5
Michel Vorm - 5
Tim Krul - 5
Hart > Dea Gea + Lloris + Cech + Szczesny
Time for Panti, no question.
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by sheblue » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:41 pm
I think panti should get a run in the team, have thought this for a long while now. But it is not easy for pelligrini to 'drop' hart, there are other issues to consider.
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by carl_feedthegoat » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:40 pm
Rag_hater wrote:mr_nool wrote:Saying that Hart has cost us 2-3 trophies the last couple of seasons is very simplistic. Yes, he's had some real howlers that have cost us points,but he's also made some top notch saves, which have saved us points. In the same manner, our strikers have fluffed chances and scored screamers, our midfielders have missed passes and lost markings, but also made fabulous tackles and cut defences open.
Yes, Hart is out of form, but most points we have dropped so far have been down to collective shortcomings.
For me I think you make some very good points.
I would much rather keep someone we know has the ability but is having a bad patch rather than somebody who no one has much of an idea about.
You must be the flidamite that voted for Hart not to be dropped.
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by Pretty Boy Lee » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:45 pm
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
You must be the flidamite that voted for Hart not to be dropped.
He's just backing any player that we all see having poor form. He's doing it here, with Garcia and anyone else that has a bad run.
If I Didn't know him to be a due hard city supporter I'd swear he wants us to play any player out of form so we keep dropping points.
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by Parku72 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:11 am
Can anyone tell me what Harts plan was if he got to the ball on Sunday? Seriously, all he could have done was handle the ball and get a red card. In the first half when the ball was rolling along the 6 yard box he stands glued to his line and does FA leaving Demichelis to clear it of a corner! His decision making is non existent. Time to ban FIFA 14 me thinks!
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by phips » Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:16 am
Esky wrote:Individual PL Errors Since Start 2012/2013
Joe Hart - 8
Ali Al-Habsi - 7
Adam Federici - 5
Michel Vorm - 5
Tim Krul - 5
Hart > Dea Gea + Lloris + Cech + Szczesny
Time for Panti, no question.
And Al-Habsi is battling for a spot in the Championship and, where is Federici?
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by Parku72 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:48 am
Esky wrote:Individual PL Errors Since Start 2012/2013 Joe Hart - 8 Ali Al-Habsi - 7 Adam Federici - 5 Michel Vorm - 5 Tim Krul - 5 Hart > Dea Gea + Lloris + Cech + Szczesny Time for Panti, no question.
and let's not forget that Joe Hart would have a lot less to deal with considering the team he plays for!!!! Would love to se a mistakes/save stat!
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by Cocacolajojo1 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:30 am
Herb wrote:Cocacolajojo wrote:Ironic post of the season so far.
You're right, it's extremely ironic -Joe Hart takes an unauthorised mental holiday for 18+ months and costs Manchester City FC and it's loyal following 2 or perhaps 3 trophies and . . . . . . and I've made a spelling mistake.
Me and Joe - our situations are just sooo alike.
Is that in the running for sarcastic post of the season so far Coca? ;-)
FFS! I spell incorrectly all the time, I'm not even British. No need to compare yourself to an out of form goalkeeper.
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by AG7 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:44 am
Which 2 morons have voted NO and want to keep Hart?
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