Chopper wrote:Although it would be nigh-on impossible to implement, Ferdinand would look to copy the example of Turkey, adding: "I would do what Turkey do, and have limits.
"In that country, clubs can have a maximum of 10 foreign players on the books, and no more than six in any 18-man matchday squad.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:He is as thick as 2 short planks , every time he opens that quivering abnormal mouth of his, pure drivel spews out.
I really hope a fuckign fire engine drives over the cunt outside that theatre of Munchens one day.
Im_Spartacus wrote:carl_feedthegoat wrote:He is as thick as 2 short planks , every time he opens that quivering abnormal mouth of his, pure drivel spews out.
I really hope a fuckign fire engine drives over the cunt outside that theatre of Munchens one day.
Any particular reason it should be a fire engine?
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Its heavier than a double decker and chances of survival are zero.
twosips wrote:In my opinion England's problem is not that we import loads. It's that we have a completely unnatural one way economy. We're the only major footballing nation in the world who doesn't really have players in other countries.
We only ever import and never really export our own players meaning that we've created a really minimal 'market' for English footballers trying to make it. Spanish footballers play anywhere. They have dozens of leagues to make it in. English ones only play in England. That is a problem....So what happens is that a) most give up and disappear into nothingness or b) they become overvalued when they do actually manage to get in someone's first team cos they're seen as rarities, when they're not really, they're just good players who hang about until a big English club signs for them, instead of actually challenging themselves abroad, and even c) they're all taught and developed in English leagues hence why all the players we produce tend to be quite one dimensional.
If we had English players playing abroad then there would be more of them in general as there would be more opportunities worldwide, and the odds of more talented English players appearing would go up considerably. When there's more of them, the prices would go do. It's pretty simple really....you'd eventually probably see the tide starting to balance out as common sense comes back in and the numbers of English players worldwide increased.... there might even be cases when *shock horror* English players are bought FROM foreign clubs and they're actually more rounded and talented than they were when they left. Mental hey?
And nowadays with the homegrown rule in effect English players become an even bigger commodity they become more expensive than ever.
Take a simple but once quite talented player like David Dunn. He milled around various English clubs with middling success. Now imagine if he'd gone abroad and actually challenged himself. I think he could have actually done pretty well in the Spanish leagues and learnt a few things...instead players like him just choose to drop down levels and eventually they all just fade into lower league nothingness. The game is littered with middling players like that. The whole thing is just unnatural and totally unhealthy to the English game.
...also, there has been years of naff coaching admittedly that hasn't helped youth development.
I really its a cultural problem that will always to an extent effect our national game.
twosips wrote:In my opinion England's problem is not that we import loads. It's that we have a completely unnatural one way economy. We're the only major footballing nation in the world who doesn't really have players in other countries.
We only ever import and never really export our own players meaning that we've created a really minimal 'market' for English footballers trying to make it. Spanish footballers play anywhere. They have dozens of leagues to make it in. English ones only play in England. That is a problem....So what happens is that a) most give up and disappear into nothingness or b) they become overvalued when they do actually manage to get in someone's first team cos they're seen as rarities, when they're not really, they're just good players who hang about until a big English club signs for them, instead of actually challenging themselves abroad, and even c) they're all taught and developed in English leagues hence why all the players we produce tend to be quite one dimensional.
If we had English players playing abroad then there would be more of them in general as there would be more opportunities worldwide, and the odds of more talented English players appearing would go up considerably. When there's more of them, the prices would go do. It's pretty simple really....you'd eventually probably see the tide starting to balance out as common sense comes back in and the numbers of English players worldwide increased.... there might even be cases when *shock horror* English players are bought FROM foreign clubs and they're actually more rounded and talented than they were when they left. Mental hey?
And nowadays with the homegrown rule in effect English players become an even bigger commodity they become more expensive than ever.
Take a simple but once quite talented player like David Dunn. He milled around various English clubs with middling success. Now imagine if he'd gone abroad and actually challenged himself. I think he could have actually done pretty well in the Spanish leagues and learnt a few things...instead players like him just choose to drop down levels and eventually they all just fade into lower league nothingness. The game is littered with middling players like that. The whole thing is just unnatural and totally unhealthy to the English game.
...also, there has been years of naff coaching admittedly that hasn't helped youth development.
I really its a cultural problem that will always to an extent effect our national game.
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