julio cesar

[Sister of fu]

Some City fans are very quick to criticise City players for any mistake they make.

I wonder if Chelsea fans are slating Cahill for turning like a supertanker as it was his error that caused the 2nd goal...I doubt it!!!

Jo Hart is a great keeper but like everybody he makes a mistake but I can tell you he will save more that he will let in the problem is as a high profile keeper they are highlighted more than others whereas his good performances are "expected" therefore not highlighted so it would seem that his performances have deteriorated which I dont think is the case

Lets be grateful that we have a top young keeper who will be prone to the odd mistake

Joe Hart deserves the critisim he is getting at present as his standards have dropped. You can accept a couple of clangers but its not just been a couple. There have been countless high profile gaffs in the past 12 months and he needs to cut this out of his game. His gaffs are costing goals.

[lets all have a disco]

Who is the top five without Joe?

[daveh1962]

Some City fans are very quick to criticise City players for any mistake they make.

I wonder if Chelsea fans are slating Cahill for turning like a supertanker as it was his error that caused the 2nd goal...I doubt it!!!

Jo Hart is a great keeper but like everybody he makes a mistake but I can tell you he will save more that he will let in the problem is as a high profile keeper they are highlighted more than others whereas his good performances are "expected" therefore not highlighted so it would seem that his performances have deteriorated which I dont think is the case

Lets be grateful that we have a top young keeper who will be prone to the odd mistake

Joe Hart deserves the critisim he is getting at present as his standards have dropped. You can accept a couple of clangers but its not just been a couple. There have been countless high profile gaffs in the past 12 months and he needs to cut this out of his game. His gaffs are costing goals.

Countless is just wrong he has made a few. And other players like Cahill make mistakes that cost goals but no-one is criticising him mistakes happen to all players or is JH exempt. Of course a goalkeeper making a mistake usually costs a goal that is the nature of the position and I am sure he would like to make none but lets give him some slack there have also been times when he has pulled off a brilliant save which has saved a goal but the errors are far more highlighted than the saves

[Sister of fu]

Some City fans are very quick to criticise City players for any mistake they make.

I wonder if Chelsea fans are slating Cahill for turning like a supertanker as it was his error that caused the 2nd goal...I doubt it!!!

Jo Hart is a great keeper but like everybody he makes a mistake but I can tell you he will save more that he will let in the problem is as a high profile keeper they are highlighted more than others whereas his good performances are "expected" therefore not highlighted so it would seem that his performances have deteriorated which I dont think is the case

Lets be grateful that we have a top young keeper who will be prone to the odd mistake

Joe Hart deserves the critisim he is getting at present as his standards have dropped. You can accept a couple of clangers but its not just been a couple. There have been countless high profile gaffs in the past 12 months and he needs to cut this out of his game. His gaffs are costing goals.

Countless is just wrong he has made a few. And other players like Cahill make mistakes that cost goals but no-one is criticising him mistakes happen to all players or is JH exempt. Of course a goalkeeper making a mistake usually costs a goal that is the nature of the position and I am sure he would like to make none but lets give him some slack there have also been times when he has pulled off a brilliant save which has saved a goal but the errors are far more highlighted than the saves

I can think of 5 just off the top of my head and there has been more. His standards have dropped but he doesnt need you, me of anyone telling him that as he will know. I love Joe Hart and rate him highly but he is not at the same level he was at in the title wining season or the one before that.

[Nickyboy]

Golden Glove 3 years in a row.

Has made 2 maybe 3 high profile mistakes in the last 12 months.

Name 1 City player who has made less - you can't - Zabba makes 2/3 per match (and I love him)

[Sister of fu]

Golden Glove 3 years in a row.

Has made 2 maybe 3 high profile mistakes in the last 12 months.

Name 1 City player who has made less - you can't - Zabba makes 2/3 per match (and I love him)

Southampton
West ham
Sunderland
Switzerland
Scotland
Real Madrid
Sweden

[Nickyboy]

Southampton
West ham
Sunderland
Switzerland
Scotland
Real Madrid
Sweden

Know all :-)

Still think he makes less mistakes than most of our team. But I suppose he has to sort that with the nature of his position. Still easily the best in the prem and England's number 1

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Hart's deteriorating rapidly. God knows what happened to the guy that played against Dortmund last season.

LOL

What an overreaction. Guy is pure class.

[john@staustell]

I'm sure Hart's game has gone down in the last 12 months.

But I thought it may have been down to the coach, who I believe has now left. Maybe the new guy can re-instate him?

Mancini's comments cant have helped at times - Madrid?

As for old Julius Caesar I thought he was a brilliant shot-stopper, but maybe with a touch of.....

[Alioune DVToure]

Top top keeper.

Fuming.

[Ted Hughes]

Some City fans are very quick to criticise City players for any mistake they make.

I wonder if Chelsea fans are slating Cahill for turning like a supertanker as it was his error that caused the 2nd goal...I doubt it!!!

They should be, it was total shit & nowhere near top level standard, as was our defending when Real Madrid scored a very similar one v us, but most City fans didn't think there was anything wrong on that occasion & some people probably think Joe Hart has been just as good as he used to be.

He hasn't. His standards have dropped.

[Green & Blue]

Joe Hart is shit. One good season and he's "world class". A new goalkeeper should have been a summer priority.

Hart is the goalkeeping equivalent of Stephen Ireland.

Thats complete nonsense Guv.

I don't know how that can be said about a player who has twice been in the pfa team of the year and has won 3 consecutive golden glove awards.

He had 3 top seasons in a row before a dip in standards last season.In a sense he could be described as being a victim of his own successs.If he had not built up such a big reputation i don't think his mistakes would have recieved so much attention.The english press revel in building players up only to knock them down again.

It's not as if he was rubbish last season he was just not setting the same standards as he had in the past but hopefully he will be back to his best again this season.

[PeterParker]

When Pants came here, he was shite.

At the moment, Massimo Battara took him at the same level as Joey. Look at Pants with Bayern, he was almost flawless.

[Dameerto]

Know all :-)

Still think he makes less mistakes than most of our team. But I suppose he has to sort that with the nature of his position. Still easily the best in the prem and England's number 1

That's not true, he has been 'consistently inconsistent' for most of last season and this preseason (Lemons has outperformed him in the preseason) after a solid run of several quality seasons dating back to his loan spell at Birmingham. Personally I think his head has been elsewhere and all the commercial tie-ups and appearances aren't helping. He needs to pull his finger out because right now at this moment in time he is in danger of losing his place to Lemons.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Know all :-)

Still think he makes less mistakes than most of our team. But I suppose he has to sort that with the nature of his position. Still easily the best in the prem and England's number 1

That's not true, he has been 'consistently inconsistent' for most of last season and this preseason (Lemons has outperformed him in the preseason) after a solid run of several quality seasons dating back to his loan spell at Birmingham. Personally I think his head has been elsewhere and all the commercial tie-ups and appearances aren't helping. He needs to pull his finger out because right now at this moment in time he is in danger of losing his place to Lemons.

According to Opta he was second only to Al Habsi for 'unforced errors' in the PL last season.

[littlebig]

I'm seriously worried about Joe for the upcoming season. He seems to have lost something mentally (commercial shenanigans won't help there) and that's not good especially for a goalkeeper.

I think it's at a critical stage in his career, he's at the point where he could rest on his laurels as has happened with Rooney. He'd want to get his sh1t together because he's way way off where he was the season before last.

[Dameerto]

Damnit I missed out on a gag, I should have said his head (AND SHOULDERS) has/have been elsewhere.

[Original Dub]

http://www.givemesport.com/368979-joe-h ... orlds-best

[Original Dub]

Oh fuck it. Link won't work.

[Dameerto]

Oh fuck it. Link won't work.

Works for me:

To most fans of English football, Joe Hart is seen as a goalkeeping superstar.

Since his breakthrough year on loan at Birmingham and then securing his status as number one for Manchester City, Hart has been considered by many as the best goalkeeper in the Premier League and maybe even the world.

With his slump in form last season and yet another howler against Scotland for England, were football fans too quick to praise the 26-year-old?

On his day, Hart is close to unbeatable, he is capable of pulling off saves out of the very top drawer.

The 2009-10 season was the England keeper's breakthrough season whilst on loan at Midlands club Birmingham City. The youngster had a nervous start to his spell at St.Andrew's, making errors which cost his team goals.

However his performances improved and he impressed with his shot stopping ability, showing quick reflexes.

But his exuberant confidence was what influenced Roberto Mancini to choose Hart over Shay Given as City's number one following the end of his time in Birmingham.

His ability to shrug off competition from Given, one of the Premier League's greatest goalkeepers had English fans drooling.

Since then he has installed himself as England's undisputed number one and won the Premier League with Manchester City, however, having achieved so much so quickly, has Hart become over confident in his ability?

He has always been a confident character on the pitch, as most goalkeepers need to be to command their box, however, whereas in the past he could back this up with safe hands, his recent performances almost make him seem arrogant, probably due to the fact he faces no competition for his position at City or guarding England's goal.

This misplaced sense of confidence was also noticed by Italian maestro Andrea Pirlo, who embarrassed Hart with a Panenka penalty at Euro 2012 and later said that the English keeper "had to get off his high horse".

Hart had a grin on his face during the penalty shoot out and jumped up and down on his line, however, Pirlo's penalty left him red faced and clearly knocked his confidence.

One of Hart's biggest clangers was against Blackburn at the Etihad Stadium when he ran out of his box to clear a long ball by Morten Gamst Pedersen.

Instead of clearing the ball he tried to chest the ball down but completely misjudged the bounce and the ball was left for Nikola Kalinic to tap into an empty net.

Last season away to Southampton was another disappointing performance from Hart, as he let a Rickie Lambert shot squirm through his arms and between his legs as Saints secured a shock win.

Against Scotland, even though he saw James Morrison's shot late, a keeper of his supposed ability should have been able to save that without any trouble.

However it was almost as if Hart was not focused as that was a basic handling error.

If England had another goalkeeper competing for the number one spot, the incumbent would probably work harder and not have let himself become complacent.

However Jack Butland, Ben Foster and Robert Green are nowhere near being ready to wear the gloves for England, so Hart's complacency will continue for the foreseeable future.

If Iker Casillas makes a mistake for Spain, Victor Valdes or Pepe Reina are on hand to take over his spot. In Italy, if Gianluigi Buffon doesn't perform Salvatore Sirigu or Federico Marchetti would increase the pressure on the goalkeeping legend.

Germany have an abundance of top quality goalkeepers with Manuel Neuer, Rene Adler and Marc-Andre ter Stegen all vying for the number one jersey.

England lack of quality replacements for Joe Hart is the primary reason for the keeper's dip in form.

He was thoroughly impressive at the start of his career when he was being pushed for his spot by Shay Given at Manchester City as he had a point to prove.

Now that his position is secured, complacency has overshadowed his game. The cry of some England fans that Hart was the world's best goalkeeper now seems extremely premature.

However, at only 26, he still has time to improve on his consistency and maybe in the future he can stake his claim as the best keeper in the world. Until then however, England fans must accept that although being the best in the country, Joe Hart has a long way to go to be considered as the best internationally.