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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:40 pm

Wonderwall wrote:If a player fouls another player, resulting in him needing treatment on sidelines, then the offending player must also leave the field and only return to action with the treated player (or substitute for injured player) or after 5 mins from leaving the pitch, whichever comes first.

If a player fouls a player, meaning the player cannot continue and all that teams substitutes have been used, then the offending player must leave the field for the remainder of the game also, meaning no advantage is gained from injuring the opposition.

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Hmmmm, so if a team's best player mistimes a challenge, let's say for example it's Messi that's guilty of the mistimed challenge, would it not be worthwhile for the fouled player to fake injury which forces him off to force Messi off? Very messy.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:58 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:If a player fouls another player, resulting in him needing treatment on sidelines, then the offending player must also leave the field and only return to action with the treated player (or substitute for injured player) or after 5 mins from leaving the pitch, whichever comes first.

If a player fouls a player, meaning the player cannot continue and all that teams substitutes have been used, then the offending player must leave the field for the remainder of the game also, meaning no advantage is gained from injuring the opposition.

How do you like them onions??


Hmmmm, so if a team's best player mistimes a challenge, let's say for example it's Messi that's guilty of the mistimed challenge, would it not be worthwhile for the fouled player to fake injury which forces him off to force Messi off? Very messy.


Yep, why should a best player be given any dispensation. Of course the opposition player could feign injury for longer, to make sure Messi of off longer, which is why I have put a 5 minute cap on it. If its a good challenge, there is no problem is there.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby aaron bond » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:35 pm

I would like to see refs blowing for half time or full time whenever it's due, even if a player is through on goal.

If the referee has played his full amount of injury time, but then a team wins a corner, they always allow play to continue and the corner to be taken, even if it means adding an additional minute or so on.

The rules clearly state that the only time a game can be extended if time is up is for a penalty kick, yet refs will happily let a game continue until the ball is safely in the middle of the pitch as to not be controversial and upset some people. That's just wrong - they should stick to the rules.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby gmercer1 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:37 pm

That the rags can no longer have more than 5 mins Fergie time when losing
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:51 pm

Any player in a wall that moves before the free-kick is taken should be pepper-sprayed in the eyes by the ref.

As above, retrospective punishment for divers. Minimum 3-match ban to begin with. Any team that has 3 or more players suspended for diving has points deducted.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Moonchesteri » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:18 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Any player in a wall that moves before the free-kick is taken should be pepper-sprayed in the eyes by the ref.

As above, retrospective punishment for divers. Minimum 3-match ban to begin with. Any team that has 3 or more players suspended for diving has points deducted.


I'd like to see both of these introduced, though the way I'd implement the moving wall would be simply that referee gives a yellow to EVERY moving man in the wall the first time that happens. If it happens again, even if just couple of seconds later, another round of yellows/sending offs for those who are already booked.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Moonchesteri » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:40 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:deliberate handball on the line = a goal
a penalty means that the defending side has a chance to get off the hook.... suarez/uruguay vs ghana....


I disagree completely. I see nothing wrong there. obviously it's a deliberate foul, but the punishment is well enough. A straight red card, his team down 1 man and a penalty to the oppo. If the attacking side fails to take advantage of that, it's 100% their fault.

But that's just my opinion
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:43 pm

Putting players on report so that they can be dealt with afterwards rather than the shit-arse farcical approach at the moment whereby they just target certain players.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Twobob » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:20 pm

Chinners wrote:Disallow all goals scored after 90mins on the clock .... that'll fucl the rags points count


And me might not win the league again ;-)
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Twobob » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:28 pm

Hate the way some poeple link o e sport with anouther (ie rugby with football) but one thing i would like to see is a sin- bin type rule for diving, offending ref's etc - but a repeat offence is a yellow then red.

Also lets get the offside rule back to what it used to be instead of the farce of what it is now, refs, lino's players, managers, fans and so called expert pundits cant figure most of it out!
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby blues-clues » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:31 pm

Now that we have GPS on the players and Hawkeye in the stadiums it should be very simple to establish whether a player encroaches at free kicks.
High powered laser beams fitted to the floodlights would vaporise any player closer than 10 yards when the kick is taken so the ball's trajectory is not unfairly compromised.
Same thing when the ref gives a decision. The ref blows his whistle and for the next 1 minute only team captains can move with 5 yards of the ref. If more than three players get within ten yards of the ref...ZZZAAAPPPP...down to 8 men.


...oh yeah and any player wearing a red shirt. Kaboom! History. Well they do keep banging on about it!
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby freshie » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:40 pm

Players should be penalised for shielding the ball out for a goal kick (started since the back pass law came into play). On any other area of the pitch it would be classed as obstruction
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:54 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
freshie wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:If a player fouls another player, resulting in him needing treatment on sidelines, then the offending player must also leave the field and only return to action with the treated player (or substitute for injured player) or after 5 mins from leaving the pitch, whichever comes first.

If a player fouls a player, meaning the player cannot continue and all that teams substitutes have been used, then the offending player must leave the field for the remainder of the game also, meaning no advantage is gained from injuring the opposition.

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Although a good idea in theory it could make tackling a thing of the past


Bad tackling yes, if a player is injured in a challenge the referee deems fair, then tough shit ;-)


I would also add that if a player gets tackled and lies down for longer than 15 seconds, he has to spend three minutes on the side-line for recuperation.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Cocacolajojo1 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:56 pm

Moonchesteri wrote:
Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:Any player in a wall that moves before the free-kick is taken should be pepper-sprayed in the eyes by the ref.

As above, retrospective punishment for divers. Minimum 3-match ban to begin with. Any team that has 3 or more players suspended for diving has points deducted.


I'd like to see both of these introduced, though the way I'd implement the moving wall would be simply that referee gives a yellow to EVERY moving man in the wall the first time that happens. If it happens again, even if just couple of seconds later, another round of yellows/sending offs for those who are already booked.


I like this rule as well.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby BlueinBosnia » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:44 pm

For any game that goes into extra time (ie not injury time), both teams are allowed 1 extra substitute.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby dazby » Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:48 am

BlueinBosnia wrote:For any game that goes into extra time (ie not injury time), both teams are allowed 1 extra substitute.


Agree wholeheartedly.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby AG7 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:46 am

Take the clock off ref ... run a standard clock on the big screens, the fourth official on the side to run it or the ref but his watch is linked to the big display and is shown live ... when it stops play, when it starts play and the computer calculates the stoppage times and again gives it ... automatic buzzers to stop the first half or end of game, again linked to this computerised clock ...

I always thought this bit of technology to come in made a lot more sense than the goal line technology, I mean how many controversial goal line decisions happen every season? Vs compare that to how many shit refs don't know simple maths ... how many minutes ref ate from our derby last year?

And this'll take the clock off Fergie's wrist too ... oh, wait.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:22 am

Slim wrote:
The average game has 56 minutes out of the 90 with the ball in active play, I found that a disturbing fact.


I thought it was less than that but I'm happy to believe that gobbet of news. Poayers woukd still fall over and stuff to break up play, but it would render extended play acting pointless.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:23 am

freshie wrote:Players should be penalised for shielding the ball out for a goal kick (started since the back pass law came into play). On any other area of the pitch it would be classed as obstruction


Keith Curle was an expert in this.
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Re: Rule interpretations

Postby Piccsnumberoneblue » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:33 am

The problem with rules about diving is that it is subjective. Three people could watch a rerun of an incident and come to three different conclusions. It's bloody hard to tell.
Players fall so routinely under the merest touch these days, and so convincingly, they must practice it. Doug?
Only managers can stop diving. They would need to be brave and say "no cheating, diving fuckers play in my team". But as they are in a results business, it would be very difficult to.
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