Txiki intensive talks for Jovetic

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Position shmosition. Say, Silva's form drops dramatically, he could be replaced by Navas or Nasri or Milner or Rodwell in the lineup (indirectly) & Jovetic may be able to pick up some of Silva's creative load. Just to remind you, because you seem to have been lost in semantics: Your original point was, that the over reliance on Silva wasn't addressed.

It's perfectly possible to win games & even the league without an out & out playmaker like Silva (just look at the scum).
Jovetic has the ability to make things happen & so do Fernandinho & Navas (even tho I think the latter will be an impact sub for us, in the same way he is for Spain). Ergo, the Silva-situation has been addressed, just not in a direct way, but with several players sharing his responsibilities.

Whether Jovetic is nominally a striker, a winger, a trequartista or a midfielder is beside the point. The important thing are his qualities. The perfect example in that regard is our most creative player last season, Carlos Tevez.

Good post.
I just don't agree with the point that you can win consistently in all competitions without playmakers but we'll see.

And Jovetic is precisely what you said replacement for Tevez.

[Original Dub]

There will be a new style of play from us. New formations and new players.

Everytime a player is replaced, it can't be looked at like the incoming player has to be of the same ilk.

Jovetic has some of tevez' qualities and vice versa, but he is not a like for like replacement. Just like he is not a like for like replacement for silva.

[Ted Hughes]

Position shmosition. Say, Silva's form drops dramatically, he could be replaced by Navas or Nasri or Milner or Rodwell in the lineup (indirectly) & Jovetic may be able to pick up some of Silva's creative load. Just to remind you, because you seem to have been lost in semantics: Your original point was, that the over reliance on Silva wasn't addressed.

It's perfectly possible to win games & even the league without an out & out playmaker like Silva (just look at the scum).
Jovetic has the ability to make things happen & so do Fernandinho & Navas (even tho I think the latter will be an impact sub for us, in the same way he is for Spain). Ergo, the Silva-situation has been addressed, just not in a direct way, but with several players sharing his responsibilities.

Whether Jovetic is nominally a striker, a winger, a trequartista or a midfielder is beside the point. The important thing are his qualities. The perfect example in that regard is our most creative player last season, Carlos Tevez.

Good post.
I just don't agree with the point that you can win consistently in all competitions without playmakers but we'll see.

And Jovetic is precisely what you said replacement for Tevez.

And Tevez played deeper last season basically doing the jobs of both Silva and Nasri.

Would you really call Silva a playmaker last season ? Sometimes he was out wide, sometimes he was following the strikers but he wasn't a Barca style playmaker imo. Nor was Nasri.

I could he wrong but I envisage both of them playing more like proper midfielders next season, sometimes dropping right back & taking the ball from the defence, other times supporting attacks but with Jovetic &/or Navas doing the attacking role they failed to do last season.

I recon they will be much better in this role & harder to pick up, plus Fernandinho/Yaya could actually run ahead of them at times & be played in by them.

Other times they could be right up with the strikers.

If we get this right, it could be something new; pure football mixed with physical power.

If it doesn't work, we could get dicked.

Exciting.

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Position shmosition. Say, Silva's form drops dramatically, he could be replaced by Navas or Nasri or Milner or Rodwell in the lineup (indirectly) & Jovetic may be able to pick up some of Silva's creative load. Just to remind you, because you seem to have been lost in semantics: Your original point was, that the over reliance on Silva wasn't addressed.

It's perfectly possible to win games & even the league without an out & out playmaker like Silva (just look at the scum).
Jovetic has the ability to make things happen & so do Fernandinho & Navas (even tho I think the latter will be an impact sub for us, in the same way he is for Spain). Ergo, the Silva-situation has been addressed, just not in a direct way, but with several players sharing his responsibilities.

Whether Jovetic is nominally a striker, a winger, a trequartista or a midfielder is beside the point. The important thing are his qualities. The perfect example in that regard is our most creative player last season, Carlos Tevez.

Good post.
I just don't agree with the point that you can win consistently in all competitions without playmakers but we'll see.

And Jovetic is precisely what you said replacement for Tevez.

I think Aguero was a replacement for Tevez, who was supposed to be leaving two seasons ago when handed transfer request

Negredo's a replacement for Balo, while Jovetic [plan B] signing as new addition to the team (after missing out on Hazard and Isco)

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Position shmosition. Say, Silva's form drops dramatically, he could be replaced by Navas or Nasri or Milner or Rodwell in the lineup (indirectly) & Jovetic may be able to pick up some of Silva's creative load. Just to remind you, because you seem to have been lost in semantics: Your original point was, that the over reliance on Silva wasn't addressed.

It's perfectly possible to win games & even the league without an out & out playmaker like Silva (just look at the scum).
Jovetic has the ability to make things happen & so do Fernandinho & Navas (even tho I think the latter will be an impact sub for us, in the same way he is for Spain). Ergo, the Silva-situation has been addressed, just not in a direct way, but with several players sharing his responsibilities.

Whether Jovetic is nominally a striker, a winger, a trequartista or a midfielder is beside the point. The important thing are his qualities. The perfect example in that regard is our most creative player last season, Carlos Tevez.

Good post.
I just don't agree with the point that you can win consistently in all competitions without playmakers but we'll see.

And Jovetic is precisely what you said replacement for Tevez.

I think Aguero was a replacement for Tevez, who was supposed to be leaving two seasons ago when handed transfer request

Negredo's a replacement for Balo, while Jovetic [plan B] signing as new addition to the team (after missing out on Hazard and Isco)

Jovetic is nothing like Hazard or Isco. Jovetic offers creative talent playing off centerforward but he is not someone to pick the ball deep and provide consistent killer balls from midfield. That's Silva and Hazard who actually ARE that type of players. Jovetic can work wonders in final third but don't expect him to be something he isn't.

I've seen this numerous of times before. We sign someone people have barely seen and they imagine we've signed something we haven't. Jovetic can be genuine creative help but he isn't going to fill that gap between deeper midfielders and attackers. Something Silva does well. We'll see whether The Engineer has some great plan to set players but one last time, Jovetic will NOT be playing in similar role as Silva.

[Alioune DVToure]

Position shmosition. Say, Silva's form drops dramatically, he could be replaced by Navas or Nasri or Milner or Rodwell in the lineup (indirectly) & Jovetic may be able to pick up some of Silva's creative load. Just to remind you, because you seem to have been lost in semantics: Your original point was, that the over reliance on Silva wasn't addressed.

It's perfectly possible to win games & even the league without an out & out playmaker like Silva (just look at the scum).
Jovetic has the ability to make things happen & so do Fernandinho & Navas (even tho I think the latter will be an impact sub for us, in the same way he is for Spain). Ergo, the Silva-situation has been addressed, just not in a direct way, but with several players sharing his responsibilities.

Whether Jovetic is nominally a striker, a winger, a trequartista or a midfielder is beside the point. The important thing are his qualities. The perfect example in that regard is our most creative player last season, Carlos Tevez.

Good post.
I just don't agree with the point that you can win consistently in all competitions without playmakers but we'll see.

And Jovetic is precisely what you said replacement for Tevez.

I think Aguero was a replacement for Tevez, who was supposed to be leaving two seasons ago when handed transfer request

Negredo's a replacement for Balo, while Jovetic [plan B] signing as new addition to the team (after missing out on Hazard and Isco)

Jovetic is nothing like Hazard or Isco. Jovetic offers creative talent playing off centerforward but he is not someone to pick the ball deep and provide consistent killer balls from midfield. That's Silva and Hazard who actually ARE that type of players. Jovetic can work wonders in final third but don't expect him to be something he isn't.

I've seen this numerous of times before. We sign someone people have barely seen and they imagine we've signed something we haven't. Jovetic can be genuine creative help but he isn't going to fill that gap between deeper midfielders and attackers. Something Silva does well. We'll see whether The Engineer has some great plan to set players but one last time, Jovetic will NOT be playing in similar role as Silva.

Nobody's saying that he will be! We needed something different to Silva (not an understudy), and that's what we've bought.

No point replacing Silva with a similar but inferior player from the bench. Try and get that breakthrough by different means. That's something we couldn't do last year so we've improved our attacking options this time around.

[Original Dub]

Position shmosition. Say, Silva's form drops dramatically, he could be replaced by Navas or Nasri or Milner or Rodwell in the lineup (indirectly) & Jovetic may be able to pick up some of Silva's creative load. Just to remind you, because you seem to have been lost in semantics: Your original point was, that the over reliance on Silva wasn't addressed.

It's perfectly possible to win games & even the league without an out & out playmaker like Silva (just look at the scum).
Jovetic has the ability to make things happen & so do Fernandinho & Navas (even tho I think the latter will be an impact sub for us, in the same way he is for Spain). Ergo, the Silva-situation has been addressed, just not in a direct way, but with several players sharing his responsibilities.

Whether Jovetic is nominally a striker, a winger, a trequartista or a midfielder is beside the point. The important thing are his qualities. The perfect example in that regard is our most creative player last season, Carlos Tevez.

Good post.
I just don't agree with the point that you can win consistently in all competitions without playmakers but we'll see.

And Jovetic is precisely what you said replacement for Tevez.

I think Aguero was a replacement for Tevez, who was supposed to be leaving two seasons ago when handed transfer request

Negredo's a replacement for Balo, while Jovetic [plan B] signing as new addition to the team (after missing out on Hazard and Isco)

Jovetic is nothing like Hazard or Isco. Jovetic offers creative talent playing off centerforward but he is not someone to pick the ball deep and provide consistent killer balls from midfield. That's Silva and Hazard who actually ARE that type of players. Jovetic can work wonders in final third but don't expect him to be something he isn't.

I've seen this numerous of times before. We sign someone people have barely seen and they imagine we've signed something we haven't. Jovetic can be genuine creative help but he isn't going to fill that gap between deeper midfielders and attackers. Something Silva does well. We'll see whether The Engineer has some great plan to set players but one last time, Jovetic will NOT be playing in similar role as Silva.

One last time, no one said he was a direct replacement for Silva.

However, he offers more options so that when Silva needs a rest, we can change it up a bit. So the "what to do when Silva is tired" problem may well have been addressed fully

And I think that's what folk are saying.

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Position shmosition. Say, Silva's form drops dramatically, he could be replaced by Navas or Nasri or Milner or Rodwell in the lineup (indirectly) & Jovetic may be able to pick up some of Silva's creative load. Just to remind you, because you seem to have been lost in semantics: Your original point was, that the over reliance on Silva wasn't addressed.

It's perfectly possible to win games & even the league without an out & out playmaker like Silva (just look at the scum).
Jovetic has the ability to make things happen & so do Fernandinho & Navas (even tho I think the latter will be an impact sub for us, in the same way he is for Spain). Ergo, the Silva-situation has been addressed, just not in a direct way, but with several players sharing his responsibilities.

Whether Jovetic is nominally a striker, a winger, a trequartista or a midfielder is beside the point. The important thing are his qualities. The perfect example in that regard is our most creative player last season, Carlos Tevez.

Good post.
I just don't agree with the point that you can win consistently in all competitions without playmakers but we'll see.

And Jovetic is precisely what you said replacement for Tevez.

I think Aguero was a replacement for Tevez, who was supposed to be leaving two seasons ago when handed transfer request

Negredo's a replacement for Balo, while Jovetic [plan B] signing as new addition to the team (after missing out on Hazard and Isco)

[highlight]Jovetic is nothing like Hazard or Isco[/highlight]. Jovetic offers creative talent playing off centerforward but he is not someone to pick the ball deep and provide consistent killer balls from midfield. That's Silva and Hazard who actually ARE that type of players. Jovetic can work wonders in final third but don't expect him to be something he isn't.

I've seen this numerous of times before. We sign someone people have barely seen and they imagine we've signed something we haven't. Jovetic can be genuine creative help but he isn't going to fill that gap between deeper midfielders and attackers. Something Silva does well. We'll see whether The Engineer has some great plan to set players but one last time, [highlight]Jovetic will NOT be playing in similar role as Silva.[/highlight]

*Duh* , hence 'plan B'

[Ted Hughes]

Position shmosition. Say, Silva's form drops dramatically, he could be replaced by Navas or Nasri or Milner or Rodwell in the lineup (indirectly) & Jovetic may be able to pick up some of Silva's creative load. Just to remind you, because you seem to have been lost in semantics: Your original point was, that the over reliance on Silva wasn't addressed.

It's perfectly possible to win games & even the league without an out & out playmaker like Silva (just look at the scum).
Jovetic has the ability to make things happen & so do Fernandinho & Navas (even tho I think the latter will be an impact sub for us, in the same way he is for Spain). Ergo, the Silva-situation has been addressed, just not in a direct way, but with several players sharing his responsibilities.

Whether Jovetic is nominally a striker, a winger, a trequartista or a midfielder is beside the point. The important thing are his qualities. The perfect example in that regard is our most creative player last season, Carlos Tevez.

Good post.
I just don't agree with the point that you can win consistently in all competitions without playmakers but we'll see.

And Jovetic is precisely what you said replacement for Tevez.

I think Aguero was a replacement for Tevez, who was supposed to be leaving two seasons ago when handed transfer request

Negredo's a replacement for Balo, while Jovetic [plan B] signing as new addition to the team (after missing out on Hazard and Isco)

Jovetic is nothing like Hazard or Isco. Jovetic offers creative talent playing off centerforward but he is not someone to pick the ball deep and provide consistent killer balls from midfield. That's Silva and Hazard who actually ARE that type of players. Jovetic can work wonders in final third but don't expect him to be something he isn't.

I've seen this numerous of times before. We sign someone people have barely seen and they imagine we've signed something we haven't. Jovetic can be genuine creative help but he isn't going to fill that gap between deeper midfielders and attackers. Something Silva does well. We'll see whether The Engineer has some great plan to set players but one last time, Jovetic will NOT be playing in similar role as Silva.

Not the same as Slva but if we play Jovetic as a bullshit 9 or whatever bullshit term they use as the latest fad, it is a waste of a signing imo. It's recently when he has been told to play further forward & he is much easier to pick up.

When he drops deep & operates more in Silva/Nasri's kind of area he runs the attack. As a bogus striker, he just flicks the ball on & is half the player. If the intention is to play him there, it's a waste of money.

He should be playing EXACTLY as Isco does. That is where his talent lies & he is better than Isco at doing it. We don't need him to play as a striker so we ehouldn't waste him. Montenegro & Fiorentina don't have our options.

I want to see him feeding the striker(s ) & arriving from deeper not playing as a shit Berbatov, like his club & country force him to do.

[Saul Goodman]

I had no idea he understood English as well as he does. And he speaks it fairly decent as well.