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Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby AlpsMaster » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:21 pm

This time last year we were struggling in the bottom half of the table and were even starting to worry about a relegation dog fight.

Most of us seemed desperate for the January transfer window to open so we could start to see our owner splash his cash.

We all expected some superstar signings and Kakagate only fueled these frustrated dreams.

When the transfer window closed I seem to recall a lot of us were underwhelmed with the four signings we'd made and believed it demonstrated a lack of ambition on Hughes's part as he sought our mediocre players he would be comfortable managing, instead of going after world-class targets.

At the time there were comments along the lines of:

Given - OK as a back-up but no real improvement on Joe Hart. We should have gone for Buffon

Bridge - over-rated bench warmer.

De Jong - never heard of him. Why spend so much money on him at that stage of his contract?

Bellamy - it makes me sick to even think of that horrible little c*** wearing a City shirt.

So what to we think of those four signings almost a year on, now they have had time to settle and we have had time to judge properly?

For what it's worth here's my 2p on them as signings:

Given 10/10 - surely the best bit of business we have ever done?

Bridge 8/10 - seems to be really settling in after a shaky start and has done well to fill a slot that has been a problem position for us for years

Bellamy 9/10 - absolutely love his work-rate and surprised by his talent. No sign of any of the nasty side is reputation lead us to worry about. Would have been 10/10 if he could stay fit.

De Jong 9/10 - getting better all the time - if he keeps playing like he did against Chelski then he's got to be a 10/10 signing soon too.

Over to you guys.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby mr_nool » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:28 pm

I think you really exagerate the critique that was aimed at those signings, with Bellamy as possible exception (I for one didn't want him). But most people saw Given as a great signing, but I do agree that he's preformed even better than I thought he would. Most people knew of de Jong and were happy with that signing. The guy is a regular starter for the Dutch, so one has to be fairly ignorant to all football but City if one didn't know of him. de Jong took some time settling in, and hadn't it been for his developement this season, I'd give him a 6/10. But now he's an 8/10 for me (if he gives us more preformances like the one on Saturday, he'll even get a nine or a ten). As to Bridge, I thought he was a vast imporvement of what we had, but just as with de Joong, I didn't thinkhe did very well fo us last spring. He's climbed to a sloid seven this season, though, but can still be a liability.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby Vhero » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:30 pm

Why did you include what people said when we signed players unless you basically calling other posters?? Is this post really about Jan 09 signings or calling other posters as they got it wrong? Honestly I dunno which mate.. Really bad topic you should remove previous comments and discuss...
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby AlpsMaster » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:33 pm

mr_nool wrote:I think you really exagerate the critique that was aimed at those signings, with Bellamy as possible exception (I for one didn't want him). But most people saw Given as a great signing, but I do agree that he's preformed even better than I thought he would. Most people knew of de Jong and were happy with that signing. The guy is a regular starter for the Dutch, so one has to be fairly ignorant to all football but City if one didn't know of him. de Jong took some time settling in, and hadn't it been for his developement this season, I'd give him a 6/10. But now he's an 8/10 for me (if he gives us more preformances like the one on Saturday, he'll even get a nine or a ten). As to Bridge, I thought he was a vast imporvement of what we had, but just as with de Joong, I didn't thinkhe did very well fo us last spring. He's climbed to a sloid seven this season, though, but can still be a liability.


Fair enough - although all those things were written - I accept they are extreme examples and therefore do exaggerate somewhat.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby AlpsMaster » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:37 pm

Vhero wrote:Why did you include what people said when we signed players unless you basically calling other posters?? Is this post really about Jan 09 signings or calling other posters as they got it wrong? Honestly I dunno which mate.. Really bad topic you should remove previous comments and discuss...


Not at all and that was not the intention. I admit I was underwhelmed too at the time and had my head in the clouds dreaming of Kaka etc signing for us.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby Original Dub » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:40 pm

AlpsMaster wrote:This time last year we were struggling in the bottom half of the table and were even starting to worry about a relegation dog fight.

Most of us seemed desperate for the January transfer window to open so we could start to see our owner splash his cash.

We all expected some superstar signings and Kakagate only fueled these frustrated dreams.

When the transfer window closed I seem to recall a lot of us were underwhelmed with the four signings we'd made and believed it demonstrated a lack of ambition on Hughes's part as he sought our mediocre players he would be comfortable managing, instead of going after world-class targets.

At the time there were comments along the lines of:

Given - OK as a back-up but no real improvement on Joe Hart. We should have gone for Buffon

Bridge - over-rated bench warmer.

De Jong - never heard of him. Why spend so much money on him at that stage of his contract?

Bellamy - it makes me sick to even think of that horrible little c*** wearing a City shirt.

So what to we think of those four signings almost a year on, now they have had time to settle and we have had time to judge properly?

For what it's worth here's my 2p on them as signings:

Given 10/10 - surely the best bit of business we have ever done?

Bridge 8/10 - seems to be really settling in after a shaky start and has done well to fill a slot that has been a problem position for us for years

Bellamy 9/10 - absolutely love his work-rate and surprised by his talent. No sign of any of the nasty side is reputation lead us to worry about. Would have been 10/10 if he could stay fit.

De Jong 9/10 - getting better all the time - if he keeps playing like he did against Chelski then he's got to be a 10/10 signing soon too.

Over to you guys.


Good post mate, I have to say I was underwhelmed at the names we ended up buying, aside from Given who I knew was one of the best in the world.... although i wasn't angry or upset because I realised that these players were obviously what were needed and what could be aqquired at that stage of our development.

Like everyone else, I had concern over Bellamy's injury record, but unlike some I never doubted his quality, or what he would bring to the dressing room, so I was definitely on the Bellamy side when he signed, just like I'm on RSC's now.

Bridge I knew was steady enough and he actually disappointed me somewhat but has improved for the most part and looks a good player now. Not world class but steady.

De Jong I had a feeling about. I don't know why - maybe it was his performances for Holland, but I really felt he was going to turn out to be one of our most important players once he had that first half-season behind him. I still feel that he will become the best holding midfielder since Makalele but what people have to remember is that when we are chasing a game for most of a match, or playing teams that park in front of their own goal, all holding mids will look anonymous and it doesn't mean they're shit. I've watched Mascherano and thought how quality he was in battle and then heard Liverpool fans saying how useless he was after nil all draws against shitty sides.

Basically, the players that were bought were vital to our development at that time and who knows, maybe if we'd bought the likes of Barry, Ade and Tevez in January instead of these players, we would have finished worse off what with the premature expectancy and perhaps lack of spine and battle in the side?

All in all, whatever about his tactics and decision making, I have 100% trust in Hughes purchases for each stage of our development and his ability to pick the right player for each position.

As was proven with the players we bought in January, there has to be patience while EACH player learns what the manager wants them to do and while they get to know their team mates. Having already learned this, you would think some would hold back on the abuse towards RSC, but it seems once bitten isn't twice shy for certain folk.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:05 pm

For me besides the signing of Given the rest of the players we have have done about what was expected of them by me.I dont think any of them have been exceptional and real gems.
NDJ last year when we bought him looked far from an 18 mill player,this year for me after SWP he has probably been one of our most consistent players performing at about 7/10 level each match for me.Against Chelski I would say he was about 9 but for me his performance wasnt as standout as some on here have seen it and I think the whole team was exceptional.
Bridge for me has had to many bad games that his good game credit is not high enough yet.There is also talk on this board and a few other places that in Jan we need a new LB.If Bridge was the answer why is there that debate.
Bellamy I cant get as excited about as everyone else.Why I dont know but when fully fit I prefer either Robson or Petrov there.
And when Craig gets over 10 goals this year I will join in the praise of him.
So for me besides Given the money the money spent in Jan 2009 could have been spent better
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby Socrates » Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:38 pm

The price tag at he stage of De Jong's contract was a misunderstanding. De Jong had already agreed a new contract at the time. He has rarely looked worth the money though but finally looked much better when played in a more advanced role - which funnily enough he said was his real position in an interview earlier in the year. Glad the penny finally dropped with the Tafia! Hope they keep playing him there and bring back Barry when we need a true holding player.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby dazby » Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:21 am

Ha, well done Alps. You've highlighted some of our best performers. Hughes tactical ability still has a way to go but his ability to sign a player is bang on.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby john@staustell » Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:56 am

Bridge is getting better for sure, especially going forward, but will never be a top notch 'defender'. Better than previous obviously.

The others are clearly successful in a big way.

With Given one or two said it would 'upset Joe Hart' (LOL), not that Given would be behind him.

But although we all like to say 'I told you so' (me more than most) we must remember that this forum is all about current opinions. Sure many are proved to be wrong and often during the course of a match ('shit selection Hughes, sort it out!'), but we all post regularly because we love and care for our club. We are fanatics and we are City.

So the 'I told you so's' shouldn't be too fierce. But also there is no need for someone to get upset because someone else points out they got it wrong - 'hands up, whoops, sorry lads'. Have a laugh!!!!!
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby Mike J » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:09 am

given - 10/10 what a keeper. even when he was with the barcodes i though he was the best keeper in the prem. still do. will save us an awful lot of points this season.

bridge - 5/10 imo he has been up to scratch in most games. especially for what we paid, also seeing as he probably the best paid left back in world football. i hope we sign a world class full back, bridge is a good back up

de jong - 8/10 shaky start but showing what he is all about now. would be one of the 1st names on my team sheet every time. absolutely rock solid in the tackle, he wont pull out of anything. come the summer i reckon it'll be 10/10

bellamy - 9/10 i always thought he was a very good player but far too injury prone and an absolute tosser too boot. so i wasnt exactly buzzing when we signed him. although now i adore the guy. he is like dickov but about a millions times better, never stops running for 90mins, great finisher and actually seems like a genuinely nice guy. if he can stay fit he will become a city legend i reckon.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby Bingo Lewis » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:26 am

Given 10/10 - Great Signing, can't complain about anything.

Bridge 5/10 - Thought we had signed a good player, but really is just a player with a reputation for being good, but being stuck on Chelsea's bench all the time never showed he was really just an average player. Big disappointment for me.

Bellamy 8/10 - Great attitude and surprised me with how good he is. Gets an 8 as he is injured too much.

De Jong 7/10 - Getting into it now, but I'm not gonna give him a score based on 1 game. Looks good and by the end of the season could be getting an 8 or 9 from me.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby sandman » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:32 pm

Working on the basis of 10/10 being a better than we could realistically sign

Given 10/10 - Best keeper in the best league in the world, can anybody argue that?

Bridge 7/10 - Not world class, maybe not top 4 class, but one of the best left backs we've had in a long time.

Bellamy 9/10 - Work rate 100%, Ability 100%, Attitude 100%, unfortunately when you work anything the was Bellamy treats his body things are expected to break down, has proven many of us wrong, including myself, is now one of my favourite players.

De Jong 10/10 - An unknown entity came to the club and ended up being our most important player at many many times during 2009. an absolute gem!!

Hugues 9/10 - In signing players he is a 9/10, he can take underdogs to krufts. Santa Cruz is yet to be proven, I have my doubts there.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby eastlands-lostboy » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:42 pm

Agree with your comments apart from Bridge who looks very very ordinary some games with teams targeting him due to his reliance on his ability to only kick with one foot
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby CityFanFromRome » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:51 pm

Given: 10/10 fantastic keeper, one of the best buys we did since the takeover for sure. I'm already dreading the moment he will retire.

Bridge: 7/10 Could have been better, especially at first. He's slowly improved on last season but he's still defensively suspect at times.

De Jong: 8.5/10 He's getting better and better and if he keeps that up we will have a true dam in front of our defence for years to come.

Bellamy: 8.5/10 Astounding workrate, great quality, would get an even higher vote if he wasn't so injury prone.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby 10.Goater_Legend » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:28 pm

Given: 10/10
I agree, he has to be up there with the best bit of buisness we have ever done, £6mill what a steal. I'm certain he will go down as a legend in our clubs history.

Bridge: 7.5/10
Didn't look that great last season and especially for £11million he was shocking at time, however, this season he has impressed me and has been quality most games, like you said he has sorted out a problem position for us. I still expect in the summer that we will buy a world-class left back.

de Jong: 8.5/10
Showed signs of being a quality player when we first signed him but also made some terrible mistakes, like the back pass against Fulham last year which they scored from, it looked as though we had been robbed in broad day light after paying £16mill for him. However, this season he has been an asset to the side, an absoloute animal (in a good way) and has held our midfield together in recent weeks, get better by the game.

Bellamy: 9/10
I was one of the ones that wasn't happy to see us in for Bellamy and when I found out we we're willing to pay £10mill for him I was horrified, so you can imangine how shocked I was when we got him for £14million after the first bid was rejected, I've been forced to eat my words however. He has been a credit to the club ever since he signed on the dotted line, scored crucial goals both this season and last and has showed much more quality than I ever thought he had, he would be 10/10 if not for his injury record. A real leader on the pitch.

Hughes: 8.5/10
All in all looking back in hindsight, Hughes did a good job last January when he signed this lot as most managers would have gone for the big names which most proberly wouldn't have worked in the long run. I still would have liked to have seen Kaka in a City shirt though. ;)
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby Kyle » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:24 pm

Yeah when we signed De Jong, I knew we were getting a good player. He didn't really show it right away because he was coming off a pretty bad knee injury and had been out of the game for a while. Right now he is playing amazing, and if he turns out to be the enforcer that he can be, he, along with given would be two of the best bargain buys we have made.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby Lev Bronstein » Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:37 pm

Let's face it, as the new moneybags outfit we're always going to have to pay over the odds.

I suspect the Bridge could have gone from Chelsea earlier, but no-one else was willing to match his wages.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby Kiss_The_Goat » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:29 am

Given 10/10 - Best in Prem. On current form, top 5 keepers in the world.

Bridge 7/10 - Settled in and was looking great early this year, then made a few mistakes and his confidence went again. Solid start.

Bellamy 9/10 - Unbelievable! Was anyone not appalled at this signing? And is there anyone now who doesn't adore Bellers? Just goes to show how little we all know hey and is an example of having faith in the team in charge. ;)

De Jong 19/10 - Never heard of him before he signed. Fucking amazing signing! End of.

Hugues 10/10 - Regardless of the $$$, Hughesy has made quality signing after quality signing. I wouldn't trust many managers with the Sheiks billions. Lucky for us Hughes appears to know a player when he sees one.
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Re: Review of January 2009 signings.

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:27 am

AlpsMaster wrote:
Given - OK as a back-up but no real improvement on Joe Hart. We should have gone for Buffon

Bridge - over-rated bench warmer.

De Jong - never heard of him. Why spend so much money on him at that stage of his contract?

Bellamy - it makes me sick to even think of that horrible little c*** wearing a City shirt.



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Apart from Bellamy signing, me myself being one of the main culprits (and delighted to admit I was dead wrong on that one), I can't remember anyone saying anything like that. I was buzzing about Given signing as I have always rated him and delighted about both De Jong and Bridge signings praising them both. I can't remember many people disagreeing either.
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