Txiki intensive talks for Jovetic

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

We sign four attack minded players and you think nothing has been done about our over reliance on Silva?

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We've replaced the two strikers with two strilers. How does that help our lack of quality attacking playmaker depth? If Dave goes down or loses form again we are fucked again.

[Alioune DVToure]

We sign four attack minded players and you think nothing has been done about our over reliance on Silva?

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We've replaced the two strikers with two strilers. How does that help our lack of quality attacking playmaker depth? If Dave goes down or loses form again we are fucked again.

Jovetic from what I've seen is very much a between-the-lines player. That should take the creative burden off Silva and Nasri, with a slight tweak to the system. We've got many more options now, which is the most important thing.

[Slim]

We sign four attack minded players and you think nothing has been done about our over reliance on Silva?

????
We've replaced the two strikers with two strilers. How does that help our lack of quality attacking playmaker depth? If Dave goes down or loses form again we are fucked again.

Jovetic from what I've seen is very much a between-the-lines player. That should take the creative burden off Silva and Nasri, with a slight tweak to the system. We've got many more options now, which is the most important thing.

Does Navas not help as well?

[Alioune DVToure]

We sign four attack minded players and you think nothing has been done about our over reliance on Silva?

????
We've replaced the two strikers with two strilers. How does that help our lack of quality attacking playmaker depth? If Dave goes down or loses form again we are fucked again.

Jovetic from what I've seen is very much a between-the-lines player. That should take the creative burden off Silva and Nasri, with a slight tweak to the system. We've got many more options now, which is the most important thing.

Does Navas not help as well?

Yep. Navas also gives us another attacking dimension. Good point.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

We sign four attack minded players and you think nothing has been done about our over reliance on Silva?

????
We've replaced the two strikers with two strilers. How does that help our lack of quality attacking playmaker depth? If Dave goes down or loses form again we are fucked again.

Jovetic from what I've seen is very much a between-the-lines player. That should take the creative burden off Silva and Nasri, with a slight tweak to the system. We've got many more options now, which is the most important thing.

Does Navas not help as well?

He def helps but he is pretty rigid player as far as where he can be used goes. Use him as a traditional winger and he will do well (I think he is well suited to English game as well) use him elsewhere and he will suck. It's quite possible that The Engineer is looking to use non-balanced systems as some have suggested or Silva in the left with freedom to roam in.

Having said that I still feel just like I did last summer. We need another playmaker in mould of Silva. Hopefully we have something lined up now that the strikers are sorted.

Re: Jovetic, I don't see him as genuine "one for the future" signing. He is 23 and should be entering his prime. Like I said, I see him as boom or bust. He has shown great talent but can also be in complete shadows for long periods. And I've been watching HIM quite a lot because we have been linked with him for a long time. Great player for manager and coaching staff to show what they are capable of because he has genuine top quality natural talent.

[Slim]

Why is the word HIM in caps?

[mr_nool]

Why is the word HIM in caps?

I think he's getting Jovetic and Navas mixed up.

[Saul Goodman]

He mentions talking to Pizzaro before joining, why in the hell isn't he at City? I thought we were going to get him back.

Just spoke at a Fiorentina presser and said he wants to stay and win trophies.

We sign four attack minded players and you think nothing has been done about our over reliance on Silva?

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We've replaced the two strikers with two strilers. How does that help our lack of quality attacking playmaker depth? If Dave goes down or loses form again we are fucked again.

Jovetic isn't really a striker. Much like Tevez he spends more time off the main striker.


As you can see he mostly plays in midfield.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Why is the word HIM in caps?

As opposed to someone like Fernandinho who I haven't seen nearly enough to have any firm opinion either way at this stage. Or Nastasic last year who turned out to be nothing short of fantastic talent. Real future gem.

[Derka]

IMHO the new style of play Pellegrini will bring in will help solve some of our past problems (overreliance on Silva as our main creative/playmaking outlet mentioned as being one of those). No doubt, he may face some new one´s as he tries to make it successful in PL, before the players get fully used to the pressing game etc.
Under Mancini we of course had the old troubles of breaking teams down who park the bus, slow build-up play at times, no real width. With our new style of play though, hopefully we will see this change for the better.
IMO one of the reasons we relied so heavily on Silva to make play was because of our static yet stable midfield.
Barry, for all his defensive services, lacks pace and that real passing ability to quickly turn defense into attack. These are one of Fernandinho´s best assets as a player.

1 So our new-look, more mobile and forward-passing midfield this season will be able to "share the burden" with the creative players to a larger extent than has previously been the case.
2 Navas will stretch teams and provide width & pace, creating more space for Silva, Nasri etc. to find that defence-splitting final pass. The thing we lacked from Sinclair last season which he was supposed to offer and Johnson actually did offer (when arsed).
3 The high pressing will help us win the ball higher up the oppo´s half before they got the time to organize themselves, hopefully making life even harder for those who come to ours just to put everyone behind the ball.

The above are some reasons why I think we will not be as dependent on Silva.
Really can´t wait for the season to kick off!!

[carl_feedthegoat]

LESSONS TO BE LEARNT FROM MAN CITY'S FAB FOUR NEW RECRUITS
Jul 20, 2013 16

As the uncertainty over Wayne Rooney’s future shows no sign of abating, Jose Mourinho madness takes hold at Chelsea and Arsenal struggle in their quest for a ‘spectacular signing’, one team is enjoying a summer of content.

Attacker Stevan Jovetic on Friday night joined Alvaro Negredo at the Etihad Stadium as Manchester City took their spending to over £90 million (Dh502m). That will top the century mark should they find middle ground in a deal for Argentine winger Eduardo Salvio from Benfica.

Yet even if they don’t, they have now shaped a side that will cause a ton of trouble for their rivals in the forthcoming season. Having brought in Negredo, a powerful frontline poacher who cost less than half the £52m (Dh290m) Monaco paid for Radamel Falcao yet scored just three goals less in La Liga last season, and the Montenegro magician Jovetic, you could argue they have replaced the departed Carlos Tevez and then some.



With midfielder Fernandinho and winger Jesus Navas completing an incoming quartet of proven quality, new boss Manuel Pellegrini has a side that may not have the X-factor, but the extra class to reclaim the Premier League title.

Despite the constant talk and demand for superstar signings, City have sacrificed a need to rely solely on individual brilliance but focus on a team ethic. It is an approach that served Pellegrini so well at Villarreal and Malaga, and stability and unity could be crucial to City’s season.

It is a policy and mindset similar to that adopted by Arsene Wenger at Arsenal with Andrey Arshavin still their record signing at just £15m (Dh83.7m). And while some Gunners fans may feel that has not worked as they seek a first major trophy in eight years, it makes no sense in the era of UEFA’s Financial Fair Play to pay inflated prices

Despite his brushes with controversy, Luis Suarez is a very good player, but is he really worth more than the £40m (Dh223m) that is apparently not enough to tempt Liverpool to sell to Arsenal? I don’t think so.

And if Real Madrid also start a bidding war to raise the price for Gonzalo Higuain beyond £25m (Dh139m), Wenger should avoid it as there will be less injury-prone alternatives who offer better value for money.

Arsenal have a team full of ambition and young, improving players hungry for honours. They should steer clear of anyone who could damage that because they too have a good chance to challenge for the title again rather than fourth place.

And that hope is renewed by disruptive events unfolding at Manchester United and Chelsea, especially over whether Wayne Rooney will get his wish to switch to Stamford Bridge and who really fits into Mourinho’s plans.

Having been handed the ‘impossible’ task of replacing Sir Alex Ferguson, the last thing David Moyes needs is unrest and an unsettled player. United might be digging their heels in over Rooney, but it’s two seasons since we saw the best of him and is he likely to reproduce a similar 34-goal haul when he’s clearly unhappy?

If Rooney goes, United will survive - the best teams always do. The plight of Fernando Torres at Chelsea should serve as a warning too. United need to resolve the situation quickly and move on with their own attempts to strengthen before next month’s start.

Perhaps they should look closer to home to see how business should be done.

The Spanish hierarchy know what they are doing , now it is up to Pellegrini to show us what he can do with this exciting team.

[ashton287]

He doewn't look either interested or happy. Forced smile if I ever saw one.

Welcome aboard but this is my candidate for transfer that will not work out. Hope I'm wrong.

He just has a gorpy spas face.

Probably pissing his knickers with excitement really.

[DoomMerchant]

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We've replaced the two strikers with two strilers. How does that help our lack of quality attacking playmaker depth? If Dave goes down or loses form again we are fucked again.

Put the licker down and keep walking. Yr so far off here even I know it.

Cheers

[Ted Hughes]

I am in total agreement that we have needed a replacement for Silva, however that is more in context of us playing in a way that requires Silva.

I'm not sure we need Silva at all IF the new players settle & I don't just mean the forwards, I mean Fernandinho as well. I would add that Nasri is now starting to look like a viable alternative.

But the players we have signed, all add a new attacking dimension & just because none of them exactly mirror Silva doesn't mean we can't replace him, as a team.

We can replace him with something different, rather than something the oppo has already seen. He can be the icing on the cake, rather than the cake itself.

I agree with Dub too; Jovetic is potentially better than Silva but it is potential, not proven result. He may struggle like fuck for all we know.

[DoomMerchant]

I am in total agreement that we have needed a replacement for Silva, however that is more in context of us playing in a way that requires Silva.

I'm not sure we need Silva at all IF the new players settle & I don't just mean the forwards, I mean Fernandinho as well. I would add that Nasri is now starting to look like a viable alternative.

But the players we have signed, all add a new attacking dimension & just because none of them exactly mirror Silva doesn't mean we can't replace him, as a team.

We can replace him with something different, rather than something the oppo has already seen. He can be the icing on the cake, rather than the cake itself.

I agree with Dub too; Jovetic is potentially better than Silva but it is potential, not proven result. He may struggle like fuck for all we know.

and what Antti isn't really digesting is that other forward and midfield options that offer a different story as well take the pressure off of Silva in terms of teams just pressing and kicking him all day and keeping him ineffective.

I think the dynamic nature of our attack this season will change dramatically and it's clearly what lost us the league last season and Mancini his job, among one or two other factors.

cheers

[City64]

If Silva can reproduce his form of 2011/12 this coming season could be very very special on all fronts the way things are shaping up...... Silva is WORLD CLASS let us not forget this . Pellegrini ideas and intentions are there for all to see , the one thing that does worry me though is the fact the premier league is harsh , very harsh ....... all the new potential need to step up to the plate from day one ! Jovetic could be anything so could Negredo , and the other two new signings , there is no hiding place and the stakes are high , very high ! fucking looking forward to it though big time ! ;-)

[Saul Goodman]

since we seem to be on the subject of Silva, when do he and Navas join the squad overseas?

[AG7]

since we seem to be on the subject of Silva, when do he and Navas join the squad overseas?

Right about now ... so them two along with the two new boys will be joining up in Hong Kong.

Question I have is, when is Pellegrini returning?

[twosips]

Does everyone remember when Van Persie was early to mid twenties like Jovetic is now? He played more as a winger/off the striker type and never really looked like an out and out centre forward. More a skillful attacking mid with an eye for the spectacular and a good pass...and his game developed and he became an excellent finisher and basically the complete striker.

There are quite a few Van Persie parallels with Jovetic really. A little injury prone too like RVP was when younger and a good finisher with clearly excellent technique but you can tell he can get even better, just like you could tell with Van Persie when he was younger. He's even of a similar build too. Not stupidly fast, but fast enough, and left footed and scores lots of different types of goals.

Think Jovetic's development of the next few years could be quite startling if he fits in well. Might not happen admittedly, but i'd not be surprised.

[Jorgobot]

By the way jovetic doesn't have a twitter it's been announced by the club and all