Barnes Gives Mancini Twelve Months Max!

[City64]

It won't be either of you who make that decision though it will be the bosses, & they will probably look at it exactly as Barnes says; give him another season to get back on track, but that could possibly become 6 months if he starts badly next season.

You have got no idea what they are thinking. None whatsoever. Very few do and those few are not going to go on sky sports to tell everyone. Barnes is giving his opinion and that is all it is, just as you are and with no more authority.

Why do people think the owner demands instant and constant success? He clearly has his own agenda.

I find it interesting that the media (and now some City fans) are projecting the attitude of Chelsea's stereotypical big-money-no-patience owner onto ours, when the truth is none of them have got any idea what he is going to do. Wishful thinking perhaps, certainly from the shithouses in the media. The only thing they have actually got in common is that they put money into the game. Chelsea's owner has appointed numerous managers and hung them all out to dry, including the current geezer, despite trophies. Ours has sacked one bloke they didn't appoint in the first place and gone on to back the man he did put in the job with gargantuan sums of money - and he has delivered the FA Cup and the Title, plus the Charity Shield, which could of course be irrelevant depending on precisely what the owners want and expect.

Excellent post Tokyo Blue.

A "few" have deffo already pressed the self destruction button at "only " coming second in the premier league. After being "patient " for 30 odd years a "few" have become "impatient" after just 8 fucking months ........ unbelievable !

[Ted Hughes]

It won't be either of you who make that decision though it will be the bosses, & they will probably look at it exactly as Barnes says; give him another season to get back on track, but that could possibly become 6 months if he starts badly next season.

You have got no idea what they are thinking. None whatsoever. Very few do and those few are not going to go on sky sports to tell everyone. Barnes is giving his opinion and that is all it is, just as you are and with no more authority.

Why do people think the owner demands instant and constant success? He clearly has his own agenda.

I find it interesting that the media (and now some City fans) are projecting the attitude of Chelsea's stereotypical big-money-no-patience owner onto ours, when the truth is none of them have got any idea what he is going to do. Wishful thinking perhaps, certainly from the shithouses in the media. The only thing they have actually got in common is that they put money into the game. Chelsea's owner has appointed numerous managers and hung them all out to dry, including the current geezer, despite trophies. Ours has sacked one bloke they didn't appoint in the first place and gone on to back the man he did put in the job with gargantuan sums of money - and he has delivered the FA Cup and the Title, plus the Charity Shield, which could of course be irrelevant depending on precisely what the owners want and expect.

The owner has put two blokes in charge to sort it out for him. They will decide. I recon they will give him next season to get back on the right road.

Where does that demand instant success anyway ? He will have been given 2 extra seasons AFTER winning a title, to do it again. How is that 'instant' ?

If we are knocked out of Europe without winning a game & 12 points behind the rags this time next season, most people will be surprised if Mancini stays in a job, including Mancini, & I recon you will be surprised as well if you tell the truth & stop talking bollocks.

I suppose if we win fuck all next season & play like shit but you & Mr fucking perfect decide YOU have had enough, then it will suddenly be ok for the rest of us to mention it without being slagged off for it ?

[bigblue]

We haven't played great this season, but then again we haven't played like shit. A 1/2 dozen uninspired performances does not = a wasted season. We've put in as many great displays as poor ones. Last season was great, this is maybe average or sightly above average.

The whole thing is very subjective based on where you place the bar and how you factor in the fact that the rags are on pace to break records for amount of points. Also if you add in that our key striker (Aguero) has been hampered with knee injuries most of the season, which I would argue affects someone like Aguero more than most.

Almost everyone, including Mancini, will say that defending a title is harder than winning it. So defending your first title in decades is a pretty hard ask! And we're still 3 wins away from the FA Cup!

Is a trophy per year good enough? What about 2 trophies in 3 years? Or has the chumps league become our be all and end all of determining a successful season just 2 years after being a part of the competition? If so, keep in mind that the so called "greatest manager/drunk" of all time has only won the competition 2 times in ~27 years...

[Ted Hughes]

We haven't played great this season, but then again we haven't played like shit. A 1/2 dozen uninspired performances does not = a wasted season. We've put in as many great displays as poor ones. Last season was great, this is maybe average or sightly above average.

The whole thing is very subjective based on where you place the bar and how you factor in the fact that the rags are on pace to break records for amount of points. Also if you add in that our key striker (Aguero) has been hampered with knee injuries most of the season, which I would argue affects someone like Aguero more than most.

Almost everyone, including Mancini, will say that defending a title is harder than winning it. So defending your first title in decades is a pretty hard ask! And we're still 3 wins away from the FA Cup!

Is a trophy per year good enough? What about 2 trophies in 3 years? Or has the chumps league become our be all and end all of determining a successful season just 2 years after being a part of the competition? If so, keep in mind that the so called "greatest manager/drunk" of all time has only won the competition 2 times in ~27 years...

It's the level we have dropped to in comparison which disappoints me. I hope we can at least close the season out looking like a side who will have something to offer for next season.

[bigblue]

It's the level we have dropped to in comparison which disappoints me. I hope we can at least close the season out looking like a side who will have something to offer for next season.

I think that's a perfectly valid opinion. But the follow up question is how much of the blame for the apparent drop in performance levels is down to the individual players and how much is down to Mancini? I'd personally blame the players more than Mancini. We've been undone by stupid individual mistakes (defending and missed chances) in many big games. The players have been put in the position to deliver, they just haven't followed through consistently enough.

No one wants to win more than Mancini and this is well documented. Everyone applauds Tevez and Suarez for their determination, but I'd argue that Mancini is a level above both of them or anyone else when it comes being determined to win. For the past 2 years (even after winning the title) Mancini constantly says in interviews "Is good, but we must improve. We must always work harder to improve." Which is one of the main reasons why I think he is perfect for City.

[Ted Hughes]

It's the level we have dropped to in comparison which disappoints me. I hope we can at least close the season out looking like a side who will have something to offer for next season.

I think that's a perfectly valid opinion. But the follow up question is how much of the blame for the apparent drop in performance levels is down to the individual players and how much is down to Mancini? I'd personally blame the players more than Mancini. We've been undone by stupid individual mistakes (defending and missed chances) in many big games. The players have been put in the position to deliver, they just haven't followed through consistently enough.

No one wants to win more than Mancini and this is well documented. Everyone applauds Tevez and Suarez for their determination, but I'd argue that Mancini is a level above both of them or anyone else when it comes being determined to win. For the past 2 years (even after winning the title) Mancini constantly says in interviews "Is good, but we must improve. We must always work harder to improve." Which is one of the main reasons why I think he is perfect for City.

Well I agree with the last line but that's why I'm so pissed off; because I expected a kind of consolidation of our recent improvement this season. I figured we would cement our system & style of play & put in a strong (but possibly losing) challenge for the title & find out which players deserve keeping & which deserve moving on before the next stage.

I think few players have done themselves favours & Mancini got caught up in trying new tactics pre season rather than just sharpening up the squad. We have lacked inspiration from both players & manager.

I just think we need to write it off at the end & start next season as if this one never happened.

[City64]

It's the level we have dropped to in comparison which disappoints me. I hope we can at least close the season out looking like a side who will have something to offer for next season.

I think that's a perfectly valid opinion. But the follow up question is how much of the blame for the apparent drop in performance levels is down to the individual players and how much is down to Mancini? I'd personally blame the players more than Mancini. We've been undone by stupid individual mistakes (defending and missed chances) in many big games. The players have been put in the position to deliver, they just haven't followed through consistently enough.

No one wants to win more than Mancini and this is well documented. Everyone applauds Tevez and Suarez for their determination, but I'd argue that Mancini is a level above both of them or anyone else when it comes being determined to win. For the past 2 years (even after winning the title) Mancini constantly says in interviews "Is good, but we must improve. We must always work harder to improve." Which is one of the main reasons why I think he is perfect for City.

Well I agree with the last line but that's why I'm so pissed off; because I expected a kind of consolidation of our recent improvement this season. I figured we would cement our system & style of play & put in a strong (but possibly losing) challenge for the title & find out which players deserve keeping & which deserve moving on before the next stage.

I think few players have done themselves favours & Mancini got caught up in trying new tactics pre season rather than just sharpening up the squad. We have lacked inspiration from both players & manager.

I just think we need to write it off at the end & start next season as if this one never happened.

Writing this season off after winning the FA cup and coming runners up in the Premier League ??????

Surely if this happens it will be MCFC,s greatest ever season wont it ?

How very odd ?

[bigblue]

I just think we need to write it off at the end & start next season as if this one never happened.

If (when) we win the FA Cup this season will definitely be one to remember!

Finishing 2nd isn't too bad either

[Patrick]

It would be a long long time before I started making noise for Mancini's sacking. He gave us 3 trophies so far, more than I thought I would ever see in my lifetime, everything else is gravy.

Now I'm probably one of the biggest advocats of long term managerial tenure, and I have very few complaints about Mancinis time at city. I am also very hopeful that given time he will deliver the goods again and again, BUT...... Credit where it's due, the man who has provided the success so far is Sheik Mansour, we will know the contribution Mancini made in about 5 years time

[bigblue]

BUT...... Credit where it's due, the man who has provided the success so far is Sheik Mansour, we will know the contribution Mancini made in about 5 years time

Ah, yes. Because with Mark Hughes working under the Sheik we looked so likely to be able to win a trophy...

[Ted Hughes]

It's the level we have dropped to in comparison which disappoints me. I hope we can at least close the season out looking like a side who will have something to offer for next season.

I think that's a perfectly valid opinion. But the follow up question is how much of the blame for the apparent drop in performance levels is down to the individual players and how much is down to Mancini? I'd personally blame the players more than Mancini. We've been undone by stupid individual mistakes (defending and missed chances) in many big games. The players have been put in the position to deliver, they just haven't followed through consistently enough.

No one wants to win more than Mancini and this is well documented. Everyone applauds Tevez and Suarez for their determination, but I'd argue that Mancini is a level above both of them or anyone else when it comes being determined to win. For the past 2 years (even after winning the title) Mancini constantly says in interviews "Is good, but we must improve. We must always work harder to improve." Which is one of the main reasons why I think he is perfect for City.

Well I agree with the last line but that's why I'm so pissed off; because I expected a kind of consolidation of our recent improvement this season. I figured we would cement our system & style of play & put in a strong (but possibly losing) challenge for the title & find out which players deserve keeping & which deserve moving on before the next stage.

I think few players have done themselves favours & Mancini got caught up in trying new tactics pre season rather than just sharpening up the squad. We have lacked inspiration from both players & manager.

I just think we need to write it off at the end & start next season as if this one never happened.

Writing this season off after winning the FA cup and coming runners up in the Premier League ??????

Surely if this happens it will be MCFC,s greatest ever season wont it ?

How very odd ?

Will it bollocks.

[getdressedmctavish]

I must say I love Ted's posts and the fact he gives no quarter to the mumblers of self serving dreary plod posts.. keep it up mate

[aaron bond]

It's the level we have dropped to in comparison which disappoints me. I hope we can at least close the season out looking like a side who will have something to offer for next season.

I think that's a perfectly valid opinion. But the follow up question is how much of the blame for the apparent drop in performance levels is down to the individual players and how much is down to Mancini? I'd personally blame the players more than Mancini. We've been undone by stupid individual mistakes (defending and missed chances) in many big games. The players have been put in the position to deliver, they just haven't followed through consistently enough.

No one wants to win more than Mancini and this is well documented. Everyone applauds Tevez and Suarez for their determination, but I'd argue that Mancini is a level above both of them or anyone else when it comes being determined to win. For the past 2 years (even after winning the title) Mancini constantly says in interviews "Is good, but we must improve. We must always work harder to improve." Which is one of the main reasons why I think he is perfect for City.

Well I agree with the last line but that's why I'm so pissed off; because I expected a kind of consolidation of our recent improvement this season. I figured we would cement our system & style of play & put in a strong (but possibly losing) challenge for the title & find out which players deserve keeping & which deserve moving on before the next stage.

I think few players have done themselves favours & Mancini got caught up in trying new tactics pre season rather than just sharpening up the squad. We have lacked inspiration from both players & manager.

I just think we need to write it off at the end & start next season as if this one never happened.

Writing this season off after winning the FA cup and coming runners up in the Premier League ??????

Surely if this happens it will be MCFC,s greatest ever season wont it ?

How very odd ?

Whilst I don't think this season is as bad as others on here think, even if we win the FA Cup and finish second, I think it's fair to say last season was better!

Is this your first season supporting us?

:-)

[dazby]

It's the level we have dropped to in comparison which disappoints me. I hope we can at least close the season out looking like a side who will have something to offer for next season.

I think that's a perfectly valid opinion. But the follow up question is how much of the blame for the apparent drop in performance levels is down to the individual players and how much is down to Mancini? I'd personally blame the players more than Mancini. We've been undone by stupid individual mistakes (defending and missed chances) in many big games. The players have been put in the position to deliver, they just haven't followed through consistently enough.

No one wants to win more than Mancini and this is well documented. Everyone applauds Tevez and Suarez for their determination, but I'd argue that Mancini is a level above both of them or anyone else when it comes being determined to win. For the past 2 years (even after winning the title) Mancini constantly says in interviews "Is good, but we must improve. We must always work harder to improve." Which is one of the main reasons why I think he is perfect for City.

Well I agree with the last line but that's why I'm so pissed off; because I expected a kind of consolidation of our recent improvement this season. I figured we would cement our system & style of play & put in a strong (but possibly losing) challenge for the title & find out which players deserve keeping & which deserve moving on before the next stage.

I think few players have done themselves favours & Mancini got caught up in trying new tactics pre season rather than just sharpening up the squad. We have lacked inspiration from both players & manager.

I just think we need to write it off at the end & start next season as if this one never happened.

Writing this season off after winning the FA cup and coming runners up in the Premier League ??????

Surely if this happens it will be MCFC,s greatest ever season wont it ?

How very odd ?

Whilst I don't think this season is as bad as others on here think, even if we win the FA Cup and finish second, I think it's fair to say last season was better!

Is this your first season supporting us?

:-)

If we win the FA Cup it would be a double. Have we ever won a double? I doubt it.

[branny]

Now we're dining at the top table we'll have seasons like this one. Even the rags have had the odd season where they don't win anything. 2nd and Fa cup I'd be more than happy with. Challenging regularly and winning trophies is still new to me. I hope we have a bit more about us in the transfer market this summer and that Bob has learnt his lesson this season with his back 3. Learn from the cock ups and come out fighting.

[aaron bond]

Now we're dining at the top table we'll have seasons like this one. Even the rags have had the odd season where they don't win anything. 2nd and Fa cup I'd be more than happy with. Challenging regularly and winning trophies is still new to me. I hope we have a bit more about us in the transfer market this summer and that Bob has learnt his lesson this season with his back 3. Learn from the cock ups and come out fighting.

That's pretty much how I feel. We just need to make sure we learn from this season, and ensure we are in a position to have a flying start next season.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

If we win the FA Cup it would be a double. Have we ever won a double? I doubt it.

Who cares? We could win a quadruple of coc, FA cup, euro lg and charity shield and is still rather the premiership 11 days out of 10.

[Spurge]

so what - as he's not Bobbys employerthen I suspect it's all pretty irrelevant really. Though a large slice of how the fuck does he know what the owners are going to do?

As an ex city player and big fan he should probably not have come out and said this in my opinion as I can't see that it's helpful in any way shapre or form

[Slim]

It would be a long long time before I started making noise for Mancini's sacking. He gave us 3 trophies so far, more than I thought I would ever see in my lifetime, everything else is gravy.

Now I'm probably one of the biggest advocats of long term managerial tenure, and I have very few complaints about Mancinis time at city. I am also very hopeful that given time he will deliver the goods again and again, BUT...... Credit where it's due, the man who has provided the success so far is Sheik Mansour, we will know the contribution Mancini made in about 5 years time

Then Sheikh Mansour by your logic, is also to blame for us not winning the league this year?

I'll remind you of that if you ever utter the phrase 'Mancini Out'.

[john@staustell]

It would be a long long time before I started making noise for Mancini's sacking. He gave us 3 trophies so far, more than I thought I would ever see in my lifetime, everything else is gravy.

Now I'm probably one of the biggest advocats of long term managerial tenure, and I have very few complaints about Mancinis time at city. I am also very hopeful that given time he will deliver the goods again and again, BUT...... Credit where it's due, the man who has provided the success so far is Sheik Mansour, we will know the contribution Mancini made in about 5 years time

Then Sheikh Mansour by your logic, is also to blame for us not winning the league this year?

I'll remind you of that if you ever utter the phrase 'Mancini Out'.

Naw it's Brian Marwood!