RSC - latest city boo boy, is it his fault?

[shawzy]

Kit Symons
Nigel Clough (I never boo any player, but I have little sympathy given this fella's on-field efforts)
Richard Edghill (Absolutely disgraceful - a great guy, a local lad and a true blue)
Georgios Samaras
Andy Dibble

Shaun Goater deserves to be on the list too.

Get Adrian Heath on there while ya at it :-/

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

RSC has had a few run outs so far which is not quite enough to write him off yet, but in every single one of the games he has played, he has done nothing to suggest he deserves a role in the team.

For someone who cost £18 million, i expected more.

I'd go with this assessment, it's pretty much how I feel.
Just one other thought on it, we have been a lot better on set pieces going forward this season, and you would think this is an area that RSC would do well in. I wonder how many of his goals for Blackburn came from dead balls as opposed to open play.

[Goataldo]

It's too soon to pass judgement on RSC, and far too soon to condemn him as being completely crap and a waste of space.

He doesn't look match-sharp yet, and will surely improve with more time on the pitch. I very much doubt that hurling abuse at him from the stands/booing him will help him at all.

Do we boo our players though? I may be wrong but I don;t remember CIty fans booing players since 'we' made Richard Edghill cry -
I've not heard anyone booing RSC yet and if they do I won't be joining in, I find it embarrassing that we'd boo our own players, apart from being counter productive. Having said that I think it's fair to boo at half time or full time if we've been shocking.

To boo or not to boo?

[Im_Spartacus]

Brilliant idea to get on his back when he's not yet hit his stride.

That's a sure fire way to waste the transfer fee....blame Hughes for signing him if you want but if we end up taking a bath on a player sold on when his confidence has been shot to bits by undue criticism and having his "home" crowd on his back since pretty much day 1 then you can all take a bow for the key part you will have played

I know, its a joke. Whats wrong with some people? Why boo a guy who's barely kicked a ball for the club? How is that going to help him or the team? I've never ever booed a player in a City shirt and I never will and i've witnessed some real shit over the years, trust me. I've booed the team at the end of a handful of appalling performances but singling out an individual is heartless and pointless. What do people expect to get out of it? Seriously, what? I've never understood it? Is it to tell the manager you think hes shit or is it to tell him you think hes shit or what? Its playground bully stuff and its pathetic.

There are some on here who would have you shot at dawn for booing at even a handful of performances. Each to their own mate, but yes it is bullying and that was the point of my OP - if we played to his strengths and if he continues to have a nightmare, then criticise away - but as things stand he hasnt got a snowflakes chance in hell of being a success with the team's matchday tactics not taking into account his abilities and shortcomings.

I think the ire needs to be directed more at the feller who is running the show than at a player who is trying to play a game which is alien to him, for 15 mins at a time, and a fast slick passing game for which he is simply is not suited. Granted his touch has been bad, and his 2nd touch is usually a tackle, but I hope that will improve once the pressure has been lifted a bit because he has it all to do as things stand

Like it or not, the time will come in January when he will lead the line for us, we have to have a team that is adaptable to play one way for Ade, and change to play to RSC's strengths when he is on the pitch. Like it or not, time will come when he will lead the line for us.

[Vhero]

You gotta remember people are probably assessing him on his last year at Blackburn too here not just his time at City which is fair no? You think because he is now playing for City that will make him twice the player? (The Hughes will get the best out of him argument is unproven so far) I am not condemning him here with this point just adding it to the thread.

[Kiss_The_Goat]

Brilliant idea to get on his back when he's not yet hit his stride.

That's a sure fire way to waste the transfer fee....blame Hughes for signing him if you want but if we end up taking a bath on a player sold on when his confidence has been shot to bits by undue criticism and having his "home" crowd on his back since pretty much day 1 then you can all take a bow for the key part you will have played

I know, its a joke. Whats wrong with some people? Why boo a guy who's barely kicked a ball for the club? How is that going to help him or the team? I've never ever booed a player in a City shirt and I never will and i've witnessed some real shit over the years, trust me. I've booed the team at the end of a handful of appalling performances but singling out an individual is heartless and pointless. What do people expect to get out of it? Seriously, what? I've never understood it? Is it to tell the manager you think hes shit or is it to tell him you think hes shit or what? Its playground bully stuff and its pathetic.

There are some on here who would have you shot at dawn for booing at even a handful of performances. Each to their own mate, but yes it is bullying and that was the point of my OP - if we played to his strengths and if he continues to have a nightmare, then criticise away - but as things stand he hasnt got a snowflakes chance in hell of being a success with the team's matchday tactics not taking into account his abilities and shortcomings.

I think the ire needs to be directed more at the feller who is running the show than at a player who is trying to play a game which is alien to him, for 15 mins at a time, and a fast slick passing game for which he is simply is not suited. Granted his touch has been bad, and his 2nd touch is usually a tackle, but I hope that will improve once the pressure has been lifted a bit because he has it all to do as things stand

Like it or not, the time will come in January when he will lead the line for us, we have to have a team that is adaptable to play one way for Ade, and change to play to RSC's strengths when he is on the pitch. Like it or not, time will come when he will lead the line for us.

When i say ive booed the team, i mean over all the years ive been going. I think the 0-0 with Huddersfield in the first div and that awful first half vs Stoke in '98 come to mind. I think thats probably about it. Just wanted to clarify, i'm not one that boos every time we draw or lose a match. but there have been some real low points, when the players have needed to reminding who pays their wages.

Back to RSC. He's a proven international center forward who has scored a lot of goals in the Prem. I agree, we need to play to his strengths when we use him and that gives us a great option and a bit of a plan B if the pretty one touch stuff isnt coming off.

[john@staustell]

It's a different thing booing a player who's shite week on week - Clough, Summerbee (N), Dibble (mainly) than booing someone who hasn't played. That is fucking ridiculous.

Previous boo-boy targets include:

Shaun Goater (as Slim said)
Joe Corrigan
Kevin Bond (manager's son etc)
Mike Summerbee (much more like his son than people now care to remember!)

...................and I'm sure there are many more, who actually became our better players.

This season the guy who actually produces the most involuntary groans has to be SWP!

Give RSC a chance.

[sandman]

He has made 5 appearances and has looked poor, maybe it is the fact he is brought on too late to make an impact, but I suspect he is just poor.

[Lev Bronstein]

Time was when you had to give a big money signing at least half a season to settle in, live down his transfer fee and find his feet. Given that we've had quite afew big money signings you'd expect one or two to take time.

Oh, and I don't care how much they're being paid, I can't think of any player who improved because his own team's fans booed him.

[Blue2]

Id just like to point out that at no point did RSC get any service on Satdi and against Scunny he got service and scored.

Let the guy settle he has been injured and isnt totally upto speed yet.

Thats the problem mate and Imo he never will be. He is becoming a target because he shouldn't be anywhere the first team squad and its the mangers fault for putting him in that position. Like I said, I dont think he will ever be up to it and is a waste of time and money, but he certainly will never be up to it playing when clearly not ready. Reserves or a loan for a month could be the options.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Id just like to point out that at no point did RSC get any service on Satdi and against Scunny he got service and scored.

Let the guy settle he has been injured and isnt totally upto speed yet.

Thats the problem mate and Imo he never will be. He is becoming a target because he shouldn't be anywhere the first team squad and its the mangers fault for putting him in that position. Like I said, I dont think he will ever be up to it and is a waste of time and money, but he certainly will never be up to it playing when clearly not ready. Reserves or a loan for a month could be the options.

Furthermore, it's december and he has done basically sweet fook all for us so far. Makes me wonder why we were in so much rush to buy him and pay good premium in summer. We could've just as well waited til january and see what happens with him.

[patrickblue]

Kit Symons
Nigel Clough (I never boo any player, but I have little sympathy given this fella's on-field efforts)
Richard Edghill (Absolutely disgraceful - a great guy, a local lad and a true blue)
Georgios Samaras
Andy Dibble

Shaun Goater deserves to be on the list too.

Get Adrian Heath on there while ya at it :-/

And while we're at it, the first from my time watching City, Ian Bowyer. I could never understand that one and he proved them all wrong by going on to win the European Cup with Forest.
And on Santa Cruz just give him a break, all this shit is no help at all.

[Florida Blue]

I am sure this will get a few of you to call me crazy (if you have not already).. but this was the same problem with Bernardo Corradi. His best skill was his ability to deal with the high ball and head it. With the exception of Vassell who was barely fit that year, no one even tried to cross the ball (in fairness DeMarcus Beasly did, but his crosses couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat).

While I do not think RSC is as poor a player as BC, without the ability to get him the ball where he needed it, how can you even rate either of them? It would be like playing the ball to SWPs head all the time, the was RSC and BC were serviced.

[Florida Blue]

I am sure this will get a few of you to call me crazy (if you have not already).. but this was the same problem with Bernardo Corradi. His best skill was his ability to deal with the high ball and head it. With the exception of Vassell who was barely fit that year, no one even tried to cross the ball (in fairness DeMarcus Beasly did, but his crosses couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat).

While I do not think RSC is as poor a player as BC, without the ability to get him the ball where he needed it, how can you even rate either of them? It would be like playing the ball to SWPs head all the time, the way RSC and BC had/have been serviced.

[Im_Spartacus]

I am sure this will get a few of you to call me crazy (if you have not already).. but this was the same problem with Bernardo Corradi. His best skill was his ability to deal with the high ball and head it. With the exception of Vassell who was barely fit that year, no one even tried to cross the ball (in fairness DeMarcus Beasly did, but his crosses couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat).

While I do not think RSC is as poor a player as BC, without the ability to get him the ball where he needed it, how can you even rate either of them? It would be like playing the ball to SWPs head all the time, the was RSC and BC were serviced.

You're fucking crazy sunshine

But you are so so right, we have done it for as long as I can remember. City have always had this curious trait of buying good players, then trying to get them to change to fit in with the system the manager stubbornly stuck to.

So would I be being too contentious to ask whether this has changed under the current manager?

[MaineRoadMemories]

As long as I've supported City us fans have always done two things...

• Pick on one particular player to vent our frustration at even if they do nothing wrong
• Always insist that the kid who can't get in the team is a world beater and we need to play him as he will win us the league!

Great to know that the money hasn't changed us :-)

[Florida Blue]

As long as I've supported City us fans have always done two things...

• Pick on one particular player to vent our frustration at even if they do nothing wrong
• Always insist that the kid who can't get in the team is a world beater and we need to play him as he will win us the league!

Great to know that the money hasn't changed us :-)

One player? Let's see so far this season the brunt has fallen o (in no particular order);

Dunne
Lescott
Bridge
RSC
Robinho
Ireland

I am sure someone complained about Vassell again...

[Florida Blue]

I am sure this will get a few of you to call me crazy (if you have not already).. but this was the same problem with Bernardo Corradi. His best skill was his ability to deal with the high ball and head it. With the exception of Vassell who was barely fit that year, no one even tried to cross the ball (in fairness DeMarcus Beasly did, but his crosses couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat).

While I do not think RSC is as poor a player as BC, without the ability to get him the ball where he needed it, how can you even rate either of them? It would be like playing the ball to SWPs head all the time, the was RSC and BC were serviced.

You're fucking crazy sunshine

But you are so so right, we have done it for as long as I can remember. City have always had this curious trait of buying good players, then trying to get them to change to fit in with the system the manager stubbornly stuck to.

So would I be being too contentious to ask whether this has changed under the current manager?

This begs the question if Hughes had tried to have Petrov and RSC on the pitch as sometime, you would think there is a good fit...

[Im_Spartacus]

I am sure this will get a few of you to call me crazy (if you have not already).. but this was the same problem with Bernardo Corradi. His best skill was his ability to deal with the high ball and head it. With the exception of Vassell who was barely fit that year, no one even tried to cross the ball (in fairness DeMarcus Beasly did, but his crosses couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat).

While I do not think RSC is as poor a player as BC, without the ability to get him the ball where he needed it, how can you even rate either of them? It would be like playing the ball to SWPs head all the time, the was RSC and BC were serviced.

You're fucking crazy sunshine

But you are so so right, we have done it for as long as I can remember. City have always had this curious trait of buying good players, then trying to get them to change to fit in with the system the manager stubbornly stuck to.

So would I be being too contentious to ask whether this has changed under the current manager?

This begs the question if Hughes had tried to have Petrov and RSC on the pitch as sometime, you would think there is a good fit...

He doesnt seem to like petrov though

[dazby]

It's not Santa Cruz's fault. It's Lescott's fault for sorting out his wayward form.

Best post on the thread.