Ratings vs Liverpool

[Fidel Castro]

Given - 7: One world-class save early on to deny Skrtel. Not commanding enough off the goal-line though.
Zabba - 5: He made Babel look decent before NdJ crocked him. Second half was better but he was partially at fault for their equaliser.
Bridge - 6: Decent defending.
Toure - 5: One of two important challenges but his passing was shocking and it looked like he was panicking on the ball.
Lescott - 7: Best performance for us so far. Keep it up Joleon!
de Jong - 8: Stood out in the first half cos the rest of the team was so shit. Not as impressive in the second half, but that was due to the fact we weren't constantly on the back foot.
Ireland - 7: Looks to be getting back to his best. Some lovely passes and flicks. Also created space for others with his running. Good link-up play with Tevez.
Barry - 4: Slow and needed 3 touches before he had the ball under control. He needs some time out of the team, cos he has been disappointing for quite some time now.
SWP - 2: His worst performance ever. Had a good spell after Tevez came on and did well to set up Ireland's goal but then reverted back to falling over, shit passing and forgetting the ball.
Bellamy - 5: Very very quiet. Not all his fault, cos the team should've tried to play him in more often instead of opting for the long Dunnie hoof.
Adebayor - 5: Invisible until Tevez came on and he got the support he deserves. Scored with his only chance. Linked up well with SWP in the second half, just a shame SWP was so poor.
Onuoha - 6: Poor clearance which lead to their equaliser. Otherwise he was quite solid if a bit rusty.
Tevez - 8: Changed the game. Wish he'd always play so well, maybe benching him gave him the kick up the arse he needed cos he looked a different player today.

[Moonchesteri]

Onuoha - 6: Poor clearance which lead to their equaliser.

I can only imagine how much shite Lescott or Bridge would've on this site if they had made the mistake instead of Ned.

[ENIAM NAM]

Barry - 4: Slow and needed 3 touches before he had the ball under control. He needs some time out of the team, cos he has been disappointing for quite some time now.

Tevez - 8: Changed the game. Wish he'd always play so well, maybe benching him gave him the kick up the arse he needed cos he looked a different player today.

Both of those are absolutley spot on.

When Tevez came on today, he changed the game. He found space for himself and others that the rest of the midfield just didn't find. Best player on the park by a long way. Not sure whats going on with Barry, but he has been giving too much of the ball away for a few games now.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Barry - 4: Slow and needed 3 touches before he had the ball under control. He needs some time out of the team, cos he has been disappointing for quite some time now.

Tevez - 8: Changed the game. Wish he'd always play so well, maybe benching him gave him the kick up the arse he needed cos he looked a different player today.

Both of those are absolutley spot on.

When Tevez came on today, he changed the game. He found space for himself and others that the rest of the midfield just didn't find. Best player on the park by a long way. Not sure whats going on with Barry, but he has been giving too much of the ball away for a few games now.

The comparison of Tevez and Barry was unreal. I know they play different positions but Tevez was alive and Barry seemingly off the pace from the first minute!

Tevez movement and touch was very good and it gave us a belief that we could threaten plus it gave Stevie someone to play with. Barry looks like he is carrying an injury , which he is but surely that means that he shouldnt be out there in the first place.

[Fidel Castro]

Onuoha - 6: Poor clearance which lead to their equaliser.

I can only imagine how much shite Lescott or Bridge would've on this site if they had made the mistake instead of Ned.

A lot of people have been positive about Bridge this season. He had one shit game against Burnley but otherwise he's been pretty good imo. As for Lescott, he was getting stick from fans, but not because 1 mistake. He hadn't really had a good game for us til today, which is disappointing. I'm sure his price tag doesn't help either, even though that's not his fault.

But if it makes you feel better, I'll give Onuoha a 4 or call him a cunt?

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Onuoha - 6: Poor clearance which lead to their equaliser.

I can only imagine how much shite Lescott or Bridge would've on this site if they had made the mistake instead of Ned.

Absolutely right. I do think the criticism of SWP is a bit OTT though. Not saying he doesnt deserve any but not as strong as he gets. As ever he does lose the ball too easily a bit too often but he is always giving his all and with better support he would look better. He did set up the goal superbly and had a couple of decent forays forward plus a few times was excellent in defensive roles not least with the back post cross with the greek behind him.

[Fidel Castro]

Barry - 4: Slow and needed 3 touches before he had the ball under control. He needs some time out of the team, cos he has been disappointing for quite some time now.

Tevez - 8: Changed the game. Wish he'd always play so well, maybe benching him gave him the kick up the arse he needed cos he looked a different player today.

Both of those are absolutley spot on.

When Tevez came on today, he changed the game. He found space for himself and others that the rest of the midfield just didn't find. Best player on the park by a long way. Not sure whats going on with Barry, but he has been giving too much of the ball away for a few games now.

The comparison of Tevez and Barry was unreal. I know they play different positions but Tevez was alive and Barry seemingly off the pace from the first minute!

Tevez movement and touch was very good and it gave us a belief that we could threaten plus it gave Stevie someone to play with. Barry looks like he is carrying an injury , which he is but surely that means that he shouldnt be out there in the first place.

I'm not sure what Barry actually offers us at the moment? He doesn't win enough tackles to be a holding midfielder, he doesn't create enough to play more advanced and is just too goddamn slow and not dynamic enough to play box-to-box. So what does he do?

[shawzy]

Agree with most of that..Im a big SWP fan and i was shocked at him the 1st half..Bit harsh on the 2 rating though.2nd half he improved.He tracked back well and that defensive header out of our box was brilliant considerin his height.
Tevez was simply amazing when he came on and i really dont think we would have got a point if he didnt play..9
Lescott deffo his best game.He looked like his form at Everton..8.. WELL DONE LAD
The rest of your ratings are pretty spot on

[CityGer]

Onuoha - 6: Poor clearance which lead to their equaliser.

I can only imagine how much shite Lescott or Bridge would've on this site if they had made the mistake instead of Ned.

Eh?? Why aim your comments at 'the site' rather than fidel??

I don't agree with him but if I felt strongly enough about it to challenge him then I would challenge him. I would not aim a dig at the site as a whole. Debate each point with the individual who has made it, ffs.

This is the main issue with the site at the moment imo. Those who are negative (or honest) about our current situation are being blamed with all that's wrong on the board. In actual fact, those who want everything to appear rosey are more to blame imo. The above being a prime example. Any Negative comments seem to be challenged as such........ "Site's shit" "Gone down hill" "Shit on here these days" "Rag" "You're ruining the place".

There are faults on both sides but this is a prime example of someone doing what seems to have become cool on here of late - Blaming all the board's faults on those who don't think that all is hunky dory with our team/club at the moment.

***Sorry if this post sis misplaced in the eyes of some. I felt it had to be said here and not on WW's thread.***

[Colin the King]

Given 7- Excellent save early doors, otherwise dependable as ever. It must be frustrating having balls constantly fizzed back to you, but he always deals with them well.

Zabaleta 7- A little sloppy on occasions and party to blame for their equaliser but brilliant going forward and gave everything for the cause. I'm glad Hughes has settled on Zabs at right back, he's not flawless but he's an awful lot better than Micah.

Touré 5- Quite clearly suffering and had to come off. Was very lackadaisical in possession which might have cost us.

Lescott 7- An improvement on recent weeks, better on the ball and in his decision making. A lot more disciplined positionally which was good to see.

Bridge 4- A few nice passes in Liverpool's half but ultimately he's paid to defend. Horrible positioning, he kept coming inside and following the ball which allowed them unlimited space out wide. We're lucky this wasn't exploited more than it was. He was doing really well up to Burnley two weeks ago, maybe his confidence is shot after that- hopefully not.

Ireland 8- Vastly improved, some beautiful touches, intelligent movement and took his goal well. In other words, what we've come to expect from Superman. Plenty of graft too. His passing can be even sharper though.

de Jong 8- I dread to think what would have happened if he wasn't playing today. Held the team together brilliantly with near perfect tackling and seemed to position himself in the right place all game. Distribution was simpler today and therefore more effective.

Barry 4- Horrendous. He looks incapable of dealing with pressure, gets harassed off the ball constantly and his passing is way off at the moment. Where did it all go wrong? He was brilliant for the first five games.

SWP 8- Very much a game of two halves for Shaun today. He was poor in the first, rarely got past Insua and looked lacking in ideas apart from one good effort. Came back second half determined to win the battle and until Aurelio was introduced to double up on him, he did. Some wonderful, mazy runs and the turn and slot into Ireland for the goal was beautiful. Carry that through to next week lad and you'll slaughter Hull.

Adebayor 6- I thought his goal, well taken as it was, papered over the cracks today. He looked disinterested for a lot of the game and for a guy of his size should be winning more than he did both on the ground and in the air.

Bellamy 6- Nothing going forward after Carragher gave him a kick, but he made some important challenges at the back. Maybe he and Bridgey should swap places!

Tevez 9- A touch of class is just what we needed and he duly delivered. Can't think of even one occasion where he gave the ball away cheaply. His running off the ball, passing, awareness and determination were vital in turning the game in our favour.

Onuoha 6- Poor for their goal and a bit indecisive in possession, otherwise pretty good. First game back in a long time for Ned, it's good to see him back in the setup and he'll get sharper with more game time.

[Fish111]

Where's the MOTM thread?

[The Original Special One]

I only saw most of the second half but am surprised to see, amid all the positive comments about Lescott that nobody's mentioned of how his failing to clear his lines set up Liverpool's second goal.

Once again Barry shocking, and definitely needs an extended time on the subs bench to shake him up

[Fidel Castro]

Onuoha - 6: Poor clearance which lead to their equaliser.

I can only imagine how much shite Lescott or Bridge would've on this site if they had made the mistake instead of Ned.

Eh?? Why aim your comments at 'the site' rather than fidel??

I don't agree with him but if I felt strongly enough about it to challenge him then I would challenge him. I would not aim a dig at the site as a whole. Debate each point with the individual who has made it, ffs.

This is the main issue with the site at the moment imo. Those who are negative (or honest) about our current situation are being blamed with all that's wrong on the board. In actual fact, those who want everything to appear rosey are more to blame imo. The above being a prime example. Any Negative comments seem to be challenged as such........ "Site's shit" "Gone down hill" "Shit on here these days" "Rag" "You're ruining the place".

There are faults on both sides but this is a prime example of someone doing what seems to have become cool on here of late - Blaming all the board's faults on those who don't think that all is hunky dory with our team/club at the moment.

***Sorry if this post sis misplaced in the eyes of some. I felt it had to be said here and not on WW's thread.***

I gave Bridge a 6 and Lescott a 7 so even if he did challenge me personally, it would've been total bollocks.

[Fidel Castro]

I only saw most of the second half but am surprised to see, amid all the positive comments about Lescott that nobody's mentioned of how his failing to clear his lines set up Liverpool's second goal.

Once again Barry shocking, and definitely needs an extended time on the subs bench to shake him up

It was Nedum who failed to clear the ball mate, that's why nobody has criticssed Lescott for their goal ;-)

[CityGer]

Onuoha - 6: Poor clearance which lead to their equaliser.

I can only imagine how much shite Lescott or Bridge would've on this site if they had made the mistake instead of Ned.

Eh?? Why aim your comments at 'the site' rather than fidel??

I don't agree with him but if I felt strongly enough about it to challenge him then I would challenge him. I would not aim a dig at the site as a whole. Debate each point with the individual who has made it, ffs.

This is the main issue with the site at the moment imo. Those who are negative (or honest) about our current situation are being blamed with all that's wrong on the board. In actual fact, those who want everything to appear rosey are more to blame imo. The above being a prime example. Any Negative comments seem to be challenged as such........ "Site's shit" "Gone down hill" "Shit on here these days" "Rag" "You're ruining the place".

There are faults on both sides but this is a prime example of someone doing what seems to have become cool on here of late - Blaming all the board's faults on those who don't think that all is hunky dory with our team/club at the moment.

***Sorry if this post sis misplaced in the eyes of some. I felt it had to be said here and not on WW's thread.***

I gave Bridge a 6 and Lescott a 7 so even if he did challenge me personally, it would've been total bollocks.

Correct.

Please don't let facts get in the way of the site being ruined, though.

[Rag_hater]

Given 7- Excellent save early doors, otherwise dependable as ever. It must be frustrating having balls constantly fizzed back to you, but he always deals with them well.

Zabaleta 7- A little sloppy on occasions and party to blame for their equaliser but brilliant going forward and gave everything for the cause. I'm glad Hughes has settled on Zabs at right back, he's not flawless but he's an awful lot better than Micah.

Touré 5- Quite clearly suffering and had to come off. Was very lackadaisical in possession which might have cost us.

Lescott 7- An improvement on recent weeks, better on the ball and in his decision making. A lot more disciplined positionally which was good to see.

Bridge 4- A few nice passes in Liverpool's half but ultimately he's paid to defend. Horrible positioning, he kept coming inside and following the ball which allowed them unlimited space out wide. We're lucky this wasn't exploited more than it was. He was doing really well up to Burnley two weeks ago, maybe his confidence is shot after that- hopefully not.

Ireland 8- Vastly improved, some beautiful touches, intelligent movement and took his goal well. In other words, what we've come to expect from Superman. Plenty of graft too. His passing can be even sharper though.

de Jong 8- I dread to think what would have happened if he wasn't playing today. Held the team together brilliantly with near perfect tackling and seemed to position himself in the right place all game. Distribution was simpler today and therefore more effective.

Barry 4- Horrendous. He looks incapable of dealing with pressure, gets harassed off the ball constantly and his passing is way off at the moment. Where did it all go wrong? He was brilliant for the first five games.

SWP 8- Very much a game of two halves for Shaun today. He was poor in the first, rarely got past Insua and looked lacking in ideas apart from one good effort. Came back second half determined to win the battle and until Aurelio was introduced to double up on him, he did. Some wonderful, mazy runs and the turn and slot into Ireland for the goal was beautiful. Carry that through to next week lad and you'll slaughter Hull.

Adebayor 6- I thought his goal, well taken as it was, papered over the cracks today. He looked disinterested for a lot of the game and for a guy of his size should be winning more than he did both on the ground and in the air.

Bellamy 6- Nothing going forward after Carragher gave him a kick, but he made some important challenges at the back. Maybe he and Bridgey should swap places!

Tevez 9- A touch of class is just what we needed and he duly delivered. Can't think of even one occasion where he gave the ball away cheaply. His running off the ball, passing, awareness and determination were vital in turning the game in our favour.

Onuoha 6- Poor for their goal and a bit indecisive in possession, otherwise pretty good. First game back in a long time for Ned, it's good to see him back in the setup and he'll get sharper with more game time.

I find your ratings more like how it looked to me.Cant see why people are being so harsh on SWP again if people are saying that Craig played better on the other side,I think they should try and watch the match again.
SWP and Tevez seem to be really gelling well down the right for me and if people think he is the weakest link down that side I think they are mistaken.

[CITYSTEVEDON]

Given 7- Excellent save early doors, otherwise dependable as ever. It must be frustrating having balls constantly fizzed back to you, but he always deals with them well.

Zabaleta 7- A little sloppy on occasions and party to blame for their equaliser but brilliant going forward and gave everything for the cause. I'm glad Hughes has settled on Zabs at right back, he's not flawless but he's an awful lot better than Micah.

Touré 5- Quite clearly suffering and had to come off. Was very lackadaisical in possession which might have cost us.

Lescott 7- An improvement on recent weeks, better on the ball and in his decision making. A lot more disciplined positionally which was good to see.

Bridge 4- A few nice passes in Liverpool's half but ultimately he's paid to defend. Horrible positioning, he kept coming inside and following the ball which allowed them unlimited space out wide. We're lucky this wasn't exploited more than it was. He was doing really well up to Burnley two weeks ago, maybe his confidence is shot after that- hopefully not.

Ireland 8- Vastly improved, some beautiful touches, intelligent movement and took his goal well. In other words, what we've come to expect from Superman. Plenty of graft too. His passing can be even sharper though.

de Jong 8- I dread to think what would have happened if he wasn't playing today. Held the team together brilliantly with near perfect tackling and seemed to position himself in the right place all game. Distribution was simpler today and therefore more effective.

Barry 4- Horrendous. He looks incapable of dealing with pressure, gets harassed off the ball constantly and his passing is way off at the moment. Where did it all go wrong? He was brilliant for the first five games.

SWP 8- Very much a game of two halves for Shaun today. He was poor in the first, rarely got past Insua and looked lacking in ideas apart from one good effort. Came back second half determined to win the battle and until Aurelio was introduced to double up on him, he did. Some wonderful, mazy runs and the turn and slot into Ireland for the goal was beautiful. Carry that through to next week lad and you'll slaughter Hull.

Adebayor 6- I thought his goal, well taken as it was, papered over the cracks today. He looked disinterested for a lot of the game and for a guy of his size should be winning more than he did both on the ground and in the air.

Bellamy 6- Nothing going forward after Carragher gave him a kick, but he made some important challenges at the back. Maybe he and Bridgey should swap places!

Tevez 9- A touch of class is just what we needed and he duly delivered. Can't think of even one occasion where he gave the ball away cheaply. His running off the ball, passing, awareness and determination were vital in turning the game in our favour.

Onuoha 6- Poor for their goal and a bit indecisive in possession, otherwise pretty good. First game back in a long time for Ned, it's good to see him back in the setup and he'll get sharper with more game time.

I find your ratings more like how it looked to me.Cant see why people are being so harsh on SWP again if people are saying that Craig played better on the other side,I think they should try and watch the match again.
SWP and Tevez seem to be really gelling well down the right for me and if people think he is the weakest link down that side I think they are mistaken.

please,swp was bloody hopeless today, his crossing when he got passed the defenders was shite, lost the ball on more then 10 times, but he did get it right twice, but he needs to look up when hes going forward and try and get some decent crosses in

[shortagain]

Not a bad performance and but for drawing games we should have won in previous weeks would have been an acceptable result.

My concern is the form of Toure, he was poor on the ball again today, easily bullied in the area and generally not in control of his opponent. Seems to have gone backwards since given the captaincy, as he now worries to much about what is going on around him instead of being positive himself. He would not be the first player at city to go backwards with the armband. Seems to be a poison challice, maybe they have not been the right men for the job. Having said that, I don't know who is!

[miss-mancity]

Given - 7
Zabaleta - 7
Toure - 4
Lescott - 6
Bridge - 4
De Jong - 7
Barry - 2
Wright-Phillips -7
Ireland - 6
Bellamy - 6
Adebayor -6
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Onuoha - 7
Tevez - 7

MH - 2

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Thimk the fatcs lie somewhere between the extremes today. SWP was neither a 2 nor an 8, not brilliant but worked hard and did beat his man a few times, trouble was he always had a 2nd to beat as the teamed up on him. In comparison Bellamy was anonomous for me today.

Bridge busted his balls going forward and always turned and sprinted back when we lost the ball. He made several good tackles and cut out a load of crosses, Zabba looked good most of the game but both goals against us had his fingerprints on them. Bridge seems to get more flack than Zabba, when in fact they are both good players who have made the odd mistake. They are neither shit or world class at the moment for me.