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[Niall Quinns Discopants]

I'm actually warming to the idea of signing Agger if we play a 3-5-2.

...................Hart....................

........Kompany Agger Lescott .........
Richards .......................... Clichy
................. Yaya .....................
.......... Silva .......... Nasri .............
............. Tevez ........................
......................Aguero ................

Would love to see that.

Why do people always assume we play same 11 for sixty-odd games? Agger is talented but injury prone. As is Lescott. Kolo is good back up but off to ACN again. With those four we have enough centerbacks to get through season not change the system.

Besides 5-3-2 wingbacks is proven to be awfull system in world football. All the rage for few years in 90's and that's that.

[DoomMerchant]

Perhaps I'm a petulant douche too, but I think Soc's is making the most sense here and it's definitely not arguing for the sake of it!

I'd like signings and I'm sure Mancini does too but we don't know that our rivals have strengthened.. for each argument that they have, there's one against - RvP (where would they have finished without his goals last season?), Scholes/Giggs, Drogba etc - at least we have the same, title-winning team, having gained another years experience and the confidence from what was achieved.

I want signings but I'm just not sure that we need them.

Sign up for Club Numpty then and get in line to get your cape and your magic wand and pleather boots so that you two superheroes can go save the world together.

What makes more sense:

Sign players to provide cover where we showed weaknesses last term OR
Hope a "young team" gel more and play better this season, after hauling in a fucking amazing 89 pts that we might be challenged to equal.

Seems logical to want the former from where i sit. But you just put on your tights and your batman costume and sit on Numpty Dumptys wall with him and cross your fingers that City will just get it done this season by acting like we're a tight red wine that just needs decanting.

cheers

As a long-term lurker, seldom poster, I used to look out for your posts.. always coherent and seldom boring - you've changed that in one thread. You seem petulant, nonsensical and just plain boring. You've failed to listen to a single word that Socrates has put to you and reply to me with some inane, in-clique drivel! Get a grep, 'douche'

"That's it. I'm retired."

[Nijinsky]

Perhaps I'm a petulant douche too, but I think Soc's is making the most sense here and it's definitely not arguing for the sake of it!

I'd like signings and I'm sure Mancini does too but we don't know that our rivals have strengthened.. for each argument that they have, there's one against - RvP (where would they have finished without his goals last season?), Scholes/Giggs, Drogba etc - at least we have the same, title-winning team, having gained another years experience and the confidence from what was achieved.

I want signings but I'm just not sure that we need them.

Sign up for Club Numpty then and get in line to get your cape and your magic wand and pleather boots so that you two superheroes can go save the world together.

What makes more sense:

Sign players to provide cover where we showed weaknesses last term OR
Hope a "young team" gel more and play better this season, after hauling in a fucking amazing 89 pts that we might be challenged to equal.

Seems logical to want the former from where i sit. But you just put on your tights and your batman costume and sit on Numpty Dumptys wall with him and cross your fingers that City will just get it done this season by acting like we're a tight red wine that just needs decanting.

cheers

Also:

It would be nice if we strenghened.

I want signings.

In an ideal world, yes.. but it's child-like and petulant to demand them now and naive to think that we couldn't defend our title without any at all! If that means I'm a member of Club Numpty, then sign me up!

[DoomMerchant]

This debate has no end ... I agree with both point of views (and can understand why people here are so passionate about getting their side across) ... thing is yes we are a better team than last season without any signing ... we have got Tevez in form and available for the full season, we have Balo matured another year and hopefully he'd have learnt something from last season ... just live Silva was so much better in his second season with us so will we see Aguero and Nasri improved this year ... and the biggest plus, all of them have had a great season of ups and downs together as a team and winning the league as a unit under the belt so hell yeah we are better than last season already ...

Now I also agree with the needing new signings theory. Yes United is better off with Kagawa and Powell and Chelsea with Hazard and Oscar and Arsenal with their signings BUT all of them needed signings for improving their core teams while we need players for cover, not the core starting XI ... All their new signings are going to draft straight into starting XIs while I seriously doubt whoever we sign will simply walk into our first team ...

Whatever the players say on the face of it when they welcome new signings on camera, every new player coming in unsettles the current squad because someone in there sees the incomer as his potential replacement ... so maybe no new players in is a blessing in disguise and helps the current squad gel together even further ... maybe Mancini knows it too, and you can't really believe what the press says about anything, can you? Hell cant even believe what Mancini says ... now he says RVP is not coming here, he also said we won't win the league last year now didn't he? So we'll see who or what comes or doesn't and how we start off this year but I have no doubt that even with the current squad we'd be stronger this year than last ...

The thing I remain pissed however about is our inability to ship the fringe players out ...

therein may lie the key to why none have come in perhaps, in which case all roads lead back to whom?

cheers

[DoomMerchant]

Perhaps I'm a petulant douche too, but I think Soc's is making the most sense here and it's definitely not arguing for the sake of it!

I'd like signings and I'm sure Mancini does too but we don't know that our rivals have strengthened.. for each argument that they have, there's one against - RvP (where would they have finished without his goals last season?), Scholes/Giggs, Drogba etc - at least we have the same, title-winning team, having gained another years experience and the confidence from what was achieved.

I want signings but I'm just not sure that we need them.

Sign up for Club Numpty then and get in line to get your cape and your magic wand and pleather boots so that you two superheroes can go save the world together.

What makes more sense:

Sign players to provide cover where we showed weaknesses last term OR
Hope a "young team" gel more and play better this season, after hauling in a fucking amazing 89 pts that we might be challenged to equal.

Seems logical to want the former from where i sit. But you just put on your tights and your batman costume and sit on Numpty Dumptys wall with him and cross your fingers that City will just get it done this season by acting like we're a tight red wine that just needs decanting.

cheers

Also:

It would be nice if we strenghened.

I want signings.

In an ideal world, yes.. but it's child-like and petulant to demand them now and naive to think that we couldn't defend our title without any at all! If that means I'm a member of Club Numpty, then sign me up!

what's this conversation about?

I want us to sign some players for obvious areas where we're lacking the talent to ensure we're League-competitive and up for the title-tilt as well as having depth for CL. I'm bothered we haven't done that yet.

Others are not bothered, but are bothered that i'm bothered.

Am i bothered? yes i fucking am.

that is all.

cheers

[Nijinsky]

Perhaps I'm a petulant douche too, but I think Soc's is making the most sense here and it's definitely not arguing for the sake of it!

I'd like signings and I'm sure Mancini does too but we don't know that our rivals have strengthened.. for each argument that they have, there's one against - RvP (where would they have finished without his goals last season?), Scholes/Giggs, Drogba etc - at least we have the same, title-winning team, having gained another years experience and the confidence from what was achieved.

I want signings but I'm just not sure that we need them.

Sign up for Club Numpty then and get in line to get your cape and your magic wand and pleather boots so that you two superheroes can go save the world together.

What makes more sense:

Sign players to provide cover where we showed weaknesses last term OR
Hope a "young team" gel more and play better this season, after hauling in a fucking amazing 89 pts that we might be challenged to equal.

Seems logical to want the former from where i sit. But you just put on your tights and your batman costume and sit on Numpty Dumptys wall with him and cross your fingers that City will just get it done this season by acting like we're a tight red wine that just needs decanting.

cheers

As a long-term lurker, seldom poster, I used to look out for your posts.. always coherent and seldom boring - you've changed that in one thread. You seem petulant, nonsensical and just plain boring. You've failed to listen to a single word that Socrates has put to you and reply to me with some inane, in-clique drivel! Get a grep, 'douche'

"That's it. I'm retired."

Off topic: I'm in Lake Buena Vista until the 15th Aug, should you wish to discuss over a beer!

[Nijinsky]

Perhaps I'm a petulant douche too, but I think Soc's is making the most sense here and it's definitely not arguing for the sake of it!

I'd like signings and I'm sure Mancini does too but we don't know that our rivals have strengthened.. for each argument that they have, there's one against - RvP (where would they have finished without his goals last season?), Scholes/Giggs, Drogba etc - at least we have the same, title-winning team, having gained another years experience and the confidence from what was achieved.

I want signings but I'm just not sure that we need them.

Sign up for Club Numpty then and get in line to get your cape and your magic wand and pleather boots so that you two superheroes can go save the world together.

What makes more sense:

Sign players to provide cover where we showed weaknesses last term OR
Hope a "young team" gel more and play better this season, after hauling in a fucking amazing 89 pts that we might be challenged to equal.

Seems logical to want the former from where i sit. But you just put on your tights and your batman costume and sit on Numpty Dumptys wall with him and cross your fingers that City will just get it done this season by acting like we're a tight red wine that just needs decanting.

cheers

Also:

It would be nice if we strenghened.

I want signings.

In an ideal world, yes.. but it's child-like and petulant to demand them now and naive to think that we couldn't defend our title without any at all! If that means I'm a member of Club Numpty, then sign me up!

what's this conversation about?

I want us to sign some players for obvious areas where we're lacking the talent to ensure we're League-competitive and up for the title-tilt as well as having depth for CL. I'm bothered we haven't done that yet.

Others are not bothered, but are bothered that i'm bothered.

Am i bothered? yes i fucking am.

that is all.

cheers

We all, to a fan, want us to sign players and we all have our own ideas on weaknesses.. it's the idea that our rivals have strengthened, whilst we stand still that seems absurd! We have the same, title-winning team, with added experience/confidence, so we don't know that any other team have narrowed the perceived gap.. we could have widened it without doing anything other than signing up Vincent, Bobby & Silva long-term!

[john68]

God Bless you Doomie,
You are a bright lad Doomie, so you must get it Mate. You are either on a wind up, playing the spoilt child coveting the train set, or you have set your dreams and are now self harming. Remember, God and Me still love you.

1...You identify City only from a football perspective...City (like it or lump it), are a football business.
2...Khaldoon had already stated that investment in the team was brought forward to avoid the worst of the FFP. This year's planned transfer budget has already been spent over the previous couple of seasons.
3...Khaldoon. also said that City would invest in players, only if they were special and at the right price.
4...We have a dire need to balance our books and the latest released figures show a £146M deficit (after one off payments are removed)
5...The main target of City at this stage of our evolution, is to ensure we qualify for the CL. That is the gateway to massive income streams, not only from monies accrued from UeFA but also the improved coefficient (giving us a higher earning potential) and the global recognition = income.

Options
1)...Spend heavily to try and defend title....Increase income slightly, make a heavy balance sheet loss and possibly fail to comply with the FFP and risk lose access to the increased income streams that we already had.
2)...Spend a small amount to ensure we qualify for the CL, increase income and balance the books, thereby ensuring CL qualification and even more access to increased income streams and global exposure.
3) Act like spoilt kids, shout boo hoo. Shove our fingers in our ears, close our eyes, fail to face the reality of the FFP by singing Lalalalalala.

[sheikh it all about]

This debate has no end ... I agree with both point of views (and can understand why people here are so passionate about getting their side across) ... thing is yes we are a better team than last season without any signing ... we have got Tevez in form and available for the full season, we have Balo matured another year and hopefully he'd have learnt something from last season ... just live Silva was so much better in his second season with us so will we see Aguero and Nasri improved this year ... and the biggest plus, all of them have had a great season of ups and downs together as a team and winning the league as a unit under the belt so hell yeah we are better than last season already ...

Now I also agree with the needing new signings theory. Yes United is better off with Kagawa and Powell and Chelsea with Hazard and Oscar and Arsenal with their signings BUT all of them needed signings for improving their core teams while we need players for cover, not the core starting XI ... All their new signings are going to draft straight into starting XIs while I seriously doubt whoever we sign will simply walk into our first team ...

Whatever the players say on the face of it when they welcome new signings on camera, every new player coming in unsettles the current squad because someone in there sees the incomer as his potential replacement ... so maybe no new players in is a blessing in disguise and helps the current squad gel together even further ... maybe Mancini knows it too, and you can't really believe what the press says about anything, can you? Hell cant even believe what Mancini says ... now he says RVP is not coming here, he also said we won't win the league last year now didn't he? So we'll see who or what comes or doesn't and how we start off this year but I have no doubt that even with the current squad we'd be stronger this year than last ...

The thing I remain pissed however about is our inability to ship the fringe players out ...

Great post, AG7. There's a lot to be said for everyone growing together this season and not bedding in a bunch of newcomers. Aguero was outstanding in that regard, the way he took to the PL. On the other hand some cover wouldn't go amiss so long as it's real quality and not costing stupid fees/wages. I do have a couple of worries which aren't to do with incoming transfers.

a) While hoping RVP stays away, I do think he could improve United's threat substantially for 2 or 3 years IF (big if) he stays fit. They need him more than us and may yet take the gamble. Let's hope he slinks off to Italy.

b) 50 years of supporting them makes it hard to consign "typical City" to the dustbin. There is massive expectation this year from all quarters and, for once, it 's not blind faith. Nearly everyone has us as favourites to retain the title. So what if we start the season badly and then implode? Alongside the flash cars parked at Carrington each day are several prams stuffed with toys...

Fook me. We just won the league. I can't stand the view from this height!

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I'm with Doomed Pants.
We need to freshen things up a little.
In the second half of the season many teams had worked us out and how to play us (when we were away at least). We often looked less than threatening and there were plenty of 'nil' games.
We all saw how stretched we became in Jan/Feb in certain positions. This isn't just one man's observation but nearly all of us recognise that we need some defensive cover and a bit of pace.
And do you think Barry will come back into the fold all fine and dandy? He has had an injury and there were plenty of games where he looked busted last season.
Yes we need to think in a business like fashion, but it would be a shame to have a wet fart of a season when we have finally just broken through.

[dazby]

Tevez will be like a new signing. It's time to give the kids a go too.

I think we will make the odd signing but I'd just love it if we stuck with what we've got.

[sheikh it all about]

Tevez will be like a new signing. It's time to give the kids a go too.

I think we will make the odd signing but I'd just love it if we stuck with what we've got.

Not too odd I hope. Do you think we will announce it after the Olympics? ;-)

[AG7]

What the fuck is Usain Bolt wanting trials at the swamp for?

[DoomMerchant]

I'm with Doomed Pants.
We need to freshen things up a little.
In the second half of the season many teams had worked us out and how to play us (when we were away at least). We often looked less than threatening and there were plenty of 'nil' games.
We all saw how stretched we became in Jan/Feb in certain positions. This isn't just one man's observation but nearly all of us recognise that we need some defensive cover and a bit of pace.
And do you think Barry will come back into the fold all fine and dandy? He has had an injury and there were plenty of games where he looked busted last season.
Yes we need to think in a business like fashion, but it would be a shame to have a wet fart of a season when we have finally just broken through.

Roger that.

All the cool kids hang with me in the smoking lounge. Coupla tins. Some monster movies and porno mags. Also, funny stories. Good times. Good. Times.

To some it's as if the girl of our dreams just said she'd marry us and we decide to stop shaving and start wearing sweatpants.

Stay classy San Diego!

[DoomMerchant]

God Bless you Doomie,
You are a bright lad Doomie, so you must get it Mate. You are either on a wind up, playing the spoilt child coveting the train set, or you have set your dreams and are now self harming. Remember, God and Me still love you.

1...You identify City only from a football perspective...City (like it or lump it), are a football business.
2...Khaldoon had already stated that investment in the team was brought forward to avoid the worst of the FFP. This year's planned transfer budget has already been spent over the previous couple of seasons.
3...Khaldoon. also said that City would invest in players, only if they were special and at the right price.
4...We have a dire need to balance our books and the latest released figures show a £146M deficit (after one off payments are removed)
5...The main target of City at this stage of our evolution, is to ensure we qualify for the CL. That is the gateway to massive income streams, not only from monies accrued from UeFA but also the improved coefficient (giving us a higher earning potential) and the global recognition = income.

Options
1)...Spend heavily to try and defend title....Increase income slightly, make a heavy balance sheet loss and possibly fail to comply with the FFP and risk lose access to the increased income streams that we already had.
2)...Spend a small amount to ensure we qualify for the CL, increase income and balance the books, thereby ensuring CL qualification and even more access to increased income streams and global exposure.
3) Act like spoilt kids, shout boo hoo. Shove our fingers in our ears, close our eyes, fail to face the reality of the FFP by singing Lalalalalala.

Your "Down with the Proletariat" rants as of late are making me feel like you are misinterpreting those Oliver Stone movies. If we need to have a pint and some juice to discuss, i'm prepared to do so. Manc in Sept unless something fucked up happens this week, which it of course could now that i've said that out loud.

Yr the Gordon Gekko of mcf.net. #proud

cheers

[Esky]

I'd like 1, at most 2 players, both on moderate fees. No 25 million plus payouts and no RVP.

I think it's time to trend backwards for FFP, to bring youth players through and to try to get some semblance of value from deals for the first time in years.

We're where we need to be. We don't need an eternally-injured 29 year old for 20+ million when we've already got 4 good strikers and a very promising one in Guidetti.

[DoomMerchant]

It would be nice if we strenghened even further sure but to think we cannot defend the title without doing is just silly. Makes you look daft. There it is.

can we defend the title without doing so? who the fucl knows.

What i can get my head around is why you would even consider it's an option or interesting...

ONLY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE THAT HASNT SIGNED A PLAYER.

Who the fucl are we -- Everton?

come on Jon...surely you don't feel like it's in any way a positive thing that we've not gotten any business done. Yr just defending ridiculosity imho.

ONLY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE THAT DOESN'T NEED TO SIGN A PLAYER TO WIN IT.

i will agree that could be true.

But why try and prove that? Just because Dazby wants to? Which btw is an epic climbdown from his "sign the Olympic stars" rants over the last 30 days.

if you were starring in your very own Alan Moore-scripted comic, NOT named "Swamp Thing", then it might be called "League of Extraordinary Clusterfucks" --

cheers

[Chinners]

Best time to strengthen a side is when at that top, everyone knows that!

[Socrates]

I won't be unhappy if we make signings Doomster, just think we are in an incredibly strong position even if we don't. We have enough midfield options not to worry about Barry that much too. Aguero will be even better this season, Nasri will have settled in, Balo will be more consistent, Dzeko more hungry, Tevez more present, Silva can be kept fresher as Nasri improves and with Tevez able to play his role too, Boyata has experience now, even Pants looks like a reliable backup. The only sensible conclusion is that we are going to be better this season than last.

John68 - I don't believe in God but I do believe in Doomy. Addiction is an illness, with our help he can recover!

[DoomMerchant]

Best time to strengthen a side is when at that top, everyone knows that!

Rack him!

Who else is on Team Doomy? I'm bored of getting rants from spastics who want us to sit around waiting for the Olympics to end to see all the Aussie Silver medals, wearing skirts and sipping tea when we should be sharpening our swords and reinforcing the weave in our chain maille.