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Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Guy Debord » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:14 pm

From The Guardian...

Mark Hughes, the Manchester City manager, has responded to criticisms from Match of the Day's pundits, and in particular Alan Hansen, by condemning their habit of trying to "nail" players and accusing them of making damning judgments without having viewed a full match.

Hansen had described Wayne Bridge's performance in Saturday's 3-3 draw with Burnley as "minus six", going on to say that he "felt sorry for him, it was that bad". Bridge's form has become a concern for the City management since his £12m move from Chelsea in January but Hughes was disappointed by the disparaging nature of the comments.

"The pundits on Match of the Day just have an opportunity to nail individuals in the public domain," he said. "That process involves looking at incidents in games but not taking it as a whole. That's the role in life that they have decided to follow. There's a frustration, though, from our side when they don't go into particularly in-depth analysis. I'd question how many games they actually watch live, from the start to the conclusion of games. Everybody knows that's the case."

Hansen had brought Joleon Lescott into his critique, saying: "Down the left-hand side, you just couldn't believe what was going on. When you talk defensively about organisation and communication problems, playing off one another and as a team, the marks out of 10 are minus six. From top-class players I just could not believe it. Schoolboy defending. For the third goal ... my God, what is going on here? I just feel sorry for him [Bridge]. You tend to be critical but you just feel sorry for him."

Bridge was culpable of not tracking back before the penalty that led to Burnley's first goal and, again, when they doubled their lead. Having fought back to lead 3-2, City then conceded a late equaliser after the ball bounced off the back of his head into the path of Burnley's David Nugent, whose cross was headed down by Steven Fletcher for Kevin McDonald to score.

"Wayne is an experienced player who has won Premier League titles and been part of a Chelsea team at the top end," Hughes, right, said. "He understands what it's all about. At times individuals will make decisions that affect the team and sometimes you have to hold up your hand.But we're not going to do the same as the pundits because that's not what we're about. We look to analyse our mistakes and make sure, in future, we are better in similar situations. We won't single out individual players; that job is done by pundits."

As one of City's players on international duty, Bridge was among the absentees when Hughes and his players flew into Abu Dhabi tonight for a training week that will incorporate a game on Thursday against the United Arab Emirates national team. Craig Bellamy, however, was able to join the squad – controversially, given that he has withdrawn from the Wales squad for Saturday's friendly against Scotland in Cardiff. Bellamy has cited a groin problem but the Wales captain has also spoken recently of not being involved in friendly games because of his injury history, in a similar way to how Ryan Giggs operated before his international retirement.

"As time goes on, there could be that situation," Hughes said. "Craig knows his body better than anybody else and when he feels he needs a break or senses he could have an issue if he continues training or playing he will pull himself out. I think that 's how it will be in the future and it will be better for him and them [Wales]because it will enable him to ensure his career runs its course and is as long as it can be. We have to protect him because it is a long season and we want to get the best out of him."

Robinho, rehabilitating from a stress fracture to the ankle, is in the travelling party but will fly to Doha on Wednesday to be examined by Brazil's medical staff before Saturday's game against England. "He 's not fit to play," Hughes said. "He has had one warm-up with the first team on Friday and that 's all he has done in two months. To throw him into an international game would be crazy, but we will go through the protocol and make sure he is there [with Brazil] when he needs to be. Following that, I'd like to think he'd come straight back."
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Alex Sapphire » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:18 pm

and I thought we'd all "agreed" on here that you get a much better view off the telly and being at the game is no substitute for the virtual thing.
That Hughes gets nothing right
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Crossie » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:19 pm

I like this.
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Slim » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:21 pm

Alex Sapphire wrote:and I thought we'd all "agreed" on here that you get a much better view off the telly and being at the game is no substitute for the virtual thing.
That Hughes gets nothing right


Funny thing is according to young DHTP, Alan Hansen is the fucking man when it comes to analysis and when he was heaping praise upon De Jong it was obvious that he knew what he was talking about. Now he doesn't?
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:26 pm

Alex Sapphire wrote:and I thought we'd all "agreed" on here that you get a much better view off the telly and being at the game is no substitute for the virtual thing.
That Hughes gets nothing right


HALF THESE PUNDITS DO NOT EVEN WATCH THE FUCKING GAMES ON TV MATE..I REMEMBER TALKING TO A TOP TV PUNDIT IN SOUTH AFRICA WHO COMMENTS ON THE LIVE GAMES SHOWN ON SUPERSPORT......THE OTHER (WONT MENTION HIS NAME) PUNDIT NEVER WATCHED ANY MATCH THAT DIDNT INVOLVE THE SCUM...SO HE WOULD HAVE TO WING IT AND FEED OFF THE OTHER PUNDITS COMMENTS.
THEY SAY SWEARING IS DUE TO A LIMITED VOCABULARY. I KNOW THOUSANDS OF WORDS, BUT I STILL PREFER "FUCK OFF" TO "GO AWAY"
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Manx Blue » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:29 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Alex Sapphire wrote:and I thought we'd all "agreed" on here that you get a much better view off the telly and being at the game is no substitute for the virtual thing.
That Hughes gets nothing right


HALF THESE PUNDITS DO NOT EVEN WATCH THE FUCKING GAMES ON TV MATE..I REMEMBER TALKING TO A TOP TV PUNDIT IN SOUTH AFRICA WHO COMMENTS ON THE LIVE GAMES SHOWN ON SUPERSPORT......THE OTHER (WONT MENTION HIS NAME) PUNDIT NEVER WATCHED ANY MATCH THAT DIDNT INVOLVE THE SCUM...SO HE WOULD HAVE TO WING IT AND FEED OFF THE OTHER PUNDITS COMMENTS.



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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Alex Sapphire » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:29 pm

Slim wrote:
Alex Sapphire wrote:and I thought we'd all "agreed" on here that you get a much better view off the telly and being at the game is no substitute for the virtual thing.
That Hughes gets nothing right


Funny thing is according to young DHTP, Alan Hansen is the fucking man when it comes to analysis and when he was heaping praise upon De Jong it was obvious that he knew what he was talking about. Now he doesn't?


Hughes isnt saying he doesnt know what hes talking about (and neither would I). Just seems to be saying hes using his powers for evil by focusing on a couple of events and using emotive language rather than assessing a 90 minute performance which he (allegedly) didnt bother to watch.
When he picked out de Jong's performance (was it v Arse or scum?) he may well have been equally selective or it may have been the main feature and had his undivided attention?
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Rag_hater » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:31 pm

Alex Sapphire wrote:and I thought we'd all "agreed" on here that you get a much better view off the telly and being at the game is no substitute for the virtual thing.
That Hughes gets nothing right


Not very many of you "agreed" that yoy get a better view on here on TV, although you all come home from the match to see what you missed at the match and what the cameras caught.
I'll agree that Hughes gets very little right and not as far as you in saying he gets nothing right.
However there have been a lot of people on here even some of them experts who went to the match who could see what a rubbish game Wayne and Joleen had, so if Hansen ran his critical eye over it and was able to fathom out the truth and point it out,surely it sounds sour grapes from Hughes.
Seems like he is trying to defend the undefendable.
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby ant london » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:32 pm

reading the transcript of what Hansen said I can't really see why he's so het up

seems that Bridge was wank
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Slim » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:33 pm

Alex Sapphire wrote:
Slim wrote:
Alex Sapphire wrote:and I thought we'd all "agreed" on here that you get a much better view off the telly and being at the game is no substitute for the virtual thing.
That Hughes gets nothing right


Funny thing is according to young DHTP, Alan Hansen is the fucking man when it comes to analysis and when he was heaping praise upon De Jong it was obvious that he knew what he was talking about. Now he doesn't?


Hughes isnt saying he doesnt know what hes talking about (and neither would I). Just seems to be saying hes using his powers for evil by focusing on a couple of events and using emotive language rather than assessing a 90 minute performance which he (allegedly) didnt bother to watch.
When he picked out de Jong's performance (was it v Arse or scum?) he may well have been equally selective or it may have been the main feature and had his undivided attention?


I guess we'll never know how much or little he saw, but I thought he was bang on about Bridge, as much as I have been a supporter of his better performances, he was constantly out of position even the times when we weren't punished for it. I got the impression he had very little respect for the danger Eagles presented and felt this gave him licence to roam. I guess arrogance would be the word, and we suffered because of it.

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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby ant london » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:35 pm

Slim wrote:according to young DHTP



where is he anyway? is he banned again????
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby dick dastardley » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:43 pm

i thought bridge was shite on sat??
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Twobob » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:49 pm

Bridge was shit? - Correct
Lescott was shit? - Correct
Is the defense too soft and leaks easy goals? - Correct

Hughes, Instead of barrating people who will pounce on any mistakes our team makes (which is allways going to happen) concentrate on sorting out the crap of a defence we have (or havent got)...
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Slim » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:51 pm

ant london wrote:
Slim wrote:according to young DHTP



where is he anyway? is he banned again????



Just think he is not a regular poster anymore, still it's fun when he's around.
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby zuricity » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:51 pm

Twobob wrote:Bridge was shit? - Correct
Lescott was shit? - Correct
Is the defense too soft and leaks easy goals? - Correct

Hughes, Instead of barrating people who will pounce on any mistakes our team makes (which is allways going to happen) concentrate on sorting out the crap of a defence we have (or havent got)...



You should be on MOTD ! :-)


Seems like the truth hurts our Manager.

Hansen wasn't wrong was he ?
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:52 pm

Twobob wrote:Bridge was shit? - Correct
Lescott was shit? - Correct
Is the defense too soft and leaks easy goals? - Correct

Hughes, Instead of barrating people who will pounce on any mistakes our team makes (which is allways going to happen) concentrate on sorting out the crap of a defence we have (or havent got)...


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THEY SAY SWEARING IS DUE TO A LIMITED VOCABULARY. I KNOW THOUSANDS OF WORDS, BUT I STILL PREFER "FUCK OFF" TO "GO AWAY"
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Alex Sapphire » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:55 pm

zuricity wrote:
Twobob wrote:Bridge was shit? - Correct
Lescott was shit? - Correct
Is the defense too soft and leaks easy goals? - Correct

Hughes, Instead of barrating people who will pounce on any mistakes our team makes (which is allways going to happen) concentrate on sorting out the crap of a defence we have (or havent got)...



You should be on MOTD ! :-)


Seems like the truth hurts our Manager.

Hansen wasn't wrong was he ?


minus six. The worst individual performance in the history of history?
That must be right
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby sandman » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:56 pm

Hughes knows they are right but doesnt like the fact that everyone can see it, venting his anger is only highlighting how inept he is.

Did they see the full match? Doubtful.
Did they see enough to determine how shit we are playing? Certainly.
Were they right in their summary? Definately.

Shut the fuck up Hughes, if you were up to the job they wouldnt have any criticisms!!
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby zuricity » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:58 pm

Alex Sapphire wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Twobob wrote:Bridge was shit? - Correct
Lescott was shit? - Correct
Is the defense too soft and leaks easy goals? - Correct

Hughes, Instead of barrating people who will pounce on any mistakes our team makes (which is allways going to happen) concentrate on sorting out the crap of a defence we have (or havent got)...



You should be on MOTD ! :-)


Seems like the truth hurts our Manager.

Hansen wasn't wrong was he ?


minus six. The worst individual performance in the history of history?
That must be right


Ok he overplayed the minus score for tv. That's not a big deal, the point is he was emphasising very poor defending. Sorry , I'll correct that , very poor football, because it certainly wasn't defending.
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Re: Match of the Day angers Hughes

Postby Bluez » Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:21 pm

sandman wrote:Hughes knows they are right but doesnt like the fact that everyone can see it, venting his anger is only highlighting how inept he is.

Did they see the full match? Doubtful.
Did they see enough to determine how shit we are playing? Certainly.
Were they right in their summary? Definately.

Shut the fuck up Hughes, if you were up to the job they wouldnt have any criticisms!!


Then Wenger, Taggart, Mourino etc must also be inept because they always defend their players and put themselves in the spotlight while doing it. When they do it its the sign of a good manager, when Hughes does it hes inept.
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