ATTITUDE

[john68]

Please can someone explain this to me. It is a genuine question that has flummoxed me all season. It has frustrated me, irritated me and on too many occasions angered me. WHY ARE SO MANY OF YOU SEEMINGLY FRIGHTENED TO SHOUT ABOUT OUR SUCCESS?

I know that for the vast majority of you, this is the 1st time that City have been anywhere near this point. I understand that for all of us, a few years ago, this position, top of the League with one game to go, against relegation candidates, would have been beyond any of our wildest dreams.

There is very little different now to the situation of the last time we won the League, in fact with last years FA Cup win, we are historically in a betterr position. In 68 we had won nowt except for a promotion for years. The previous season ('67) we had finished a lowly 15th as the rags became champions. Then as now, we had been under the rags cosh for many years and the butt of their pisstaking.

We were little City, no Best, Law Charlton, Hunt, St John, Bremner, Lorimer, At the time our team didn't even have a major established Innternational player. Mulhearn from Stockport County, Book at over 30, from Argyle, Pardoe a forward turned full back who'd done nowt for years,as hadn't Oakes, his cousin. Helsop came from Everton's reserves and a young Doyle from ours. Young had never achieved much and Coleman arrived at City with a pair of plastic boots and a reputation for decking a ref. Summerbee and Bell were quality and we hadn't signed Lee at that point. WE HAD NO CHANCE...NOT A CAT IN HELL'S.

But from day one, we sang "We're gonna win the League" and "We'll be running round Newcastle with the League". Other fans may have laughed at us but we didn't give a fuck. We sang and we danced through thick, thin, win, lose or draw. Many of our songs ended with the line; "...and when we win the League this year...." Did we believe it? No, probably not. Did we sing and chant it? Dead fucling right we did. Long, loud and at every opportunity.

We marched to away grounds loud and proud, knocked on doors, hung out of train windows, danced on motorway service car parks and rocked coaches. We jumped, waved scarves but most of all we sang. Bravado? Nonsense? Classless? Maybe it was, I don't know but neither at that time did any of us care. We were City, we were afraid of nobody and we wanted the World and his mate to know.

This season, fresh from our FA Cup success, with a team full of Yaya, Silva, Tevez , Aguero and Hart, even after battering the rags at their own middin and seeing 'em off at our ground, even after beating Newcastle on Sunday....Shhhhhhhhh! When we once danced and sang our way to the title, this year, we have crept silently and nervously, peeped round corners in case someone might see us, almost apologised for our success. Shhhhhh! Don't tell anyone but we might be Champions this time next week. Maybe we can win the League and maybe, just maybe, nobody will notice.

SOMEONE SOMEWHERE PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.

[london blue 2]

When we win I'll shout.

[avoidconfusion]

Too many false dawns maybe?

Too many typical City moments?

[bluebananamilksheikh]

Habit

[carl_feedthegoat]

Success is winning something...we have won fuckall up to now.

You should take a leaf out of Citys management and playing staff...they are like us..happy but not going overboard.

I just dont get fans like you going mental before the 6th number comes in.

Heres some Mancini advise for you John.

Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini has ordered his players to keep calm and carry on as they close in on the Premier League title. "In one game, it can change. It's in our hands and we are playing at the Etihad Stadium. But it doesn't change anything.

"We need to keep our concentration and our good attitude like we have in the last four or five weeks.

"We can talk after Sunday, not today. It is too early."

[john68]

Success is winning something...we have won fuckall up to now.

You should take a leaf out of Citys management and playing staff...they are like us..happy but not going overboard.

I just dont get fans like you going mental before the 6th number comes in.

Heres some Mancini advise for you John.

Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini has ordered his players to keep calm and carry on as they close in on the Premier League title. "In one game, it can change. It's in our hands and we are playing at the Etihad Stadium. But it doesn't change anything.

"We need to keep our concentration and our good attitude like we have in the last four or five weeks.

"We can talk after Sunday, not today. It is too early."

Carl,
Sorry mate but that was not thee question I was asking Pal. I understand and respect where you are coming from. As emotional being, we are kindred spirits. You expel your feelings one way and I another but it is still emotion.
I was asking why such a massive difference between City fans then and what we have now. The circumstances are almost identical but the fans attitude and reaction to it are Worlds apart.
I an genuinely not being critical Mate. It has bewildered me all season and I would love to know why.

[Patrick]

No matter what happens, this has been best season in my memory and I'm 51. It's a great achievement it's a great success and I have been celebrating that since we beat the rags... I will still be celebrating the season even if something goes wrong at the weekend.

But the time to celebrate the title is on Sunday evening and then I'm going fucking mental.

[john68]

No matter what happens, this has been best season in my memory and I'm 51. It's a great achievement it's a great success and I have been celebrating that since we beat the rags... I will still be celebrating the season even if something goes wrong at the weekend.

But the time to celebrate the title is on Sunday evening and then I'm going fucking mental.

Cheers Paddy but none of that explains why such a difference.

Is it because the 1960s were a brave new World for youth, a time of no fear? Was it just the confidence we had in the future? Is this new attitude a result of the Thatcher years that has produced a Thatcher mentality? Is it that life is much more complex now, whilst back then we were much more innocent and naive?

Help!!!!

[feedthegreek]

its all happened so quick, from being also rans since 78, in the last 4 years weve gone from mediocrity to miracle workers breaking every record going this season, if we win on sunday from next season well expect to be winning everything we enter in domestic competitions, i remember 68 i was 11 we used to beat rags regularly and you got used to it never worried playing them, but even last monday i was dreading playing them mainly in case the ref robbed us not because i thought we were inferior, we won and again yesterday brilliant. once we win the title if thats on sunday well start expecting to win as opposed to hoping we win. plus the rag press wont be giving us weve no experience crap.

[Socrates]

No matter what happens, this has been best season in my memory and I'm 51. It's a great achievement it's a great success and I have been celebrating that since we beat the rags... I will still be celebrating the season even if something goes wrong at the weekend.

But the time to celebrate the title is on Sunday evening and then I'm going fucking mental.

Cheers Paddy but none of that explains why such a difference.

Is it because the 1960s were a brave new World for youth, a time of no fear? Was it just the confidence we had in the future? Is this new attitude a result of the Thatcher years that has produced a Thatcher mentality? Is it that life is much more complex now, whilst back then we were much more innocent and naive?

Help!!!!

I already blamed Thatcher last week and it didn't go down too well with the Thatcher Youth section.

[Rag_hater]

For me the thought of losing should be something we are not even thinking about.Now is the time to have the attitude that winning it is the only option.
I will deal with a loss or draw if that happens but for now I am not contemplating it.
We have to win.End of

[john68]

its all happened so quick, from being also rans since 78, in the last 4 years weve gone from mediocrity to miracle workers breaking every record going this season, if we win on sunday from next season well expect to be winning everything we enter in domestic competitions, i remember 68 i was 11 we used to beat rags regularly and you got used to it never worried playing them, but even last monday i was dreading playing them mainly in case the ref robbed us not because i thought we were inferior, we won and again yesterday brilliant. once we win the title if thats on sunday well start expecting to win as opposed to hoping we win. plus the rag press wont be giving us weve no experience crap.

1)...In '68, it happened far quicker. We had no FA Cup success to build on like now, no World class established players like now. Our League record the previous 4 years had been the bottom half of Division 2, Promotion, 15th in Division 1, we had no reason to believe
then.
2)...Until we played and beat the rags at the swamp near the end of '68, we hadn't beaten the rags since 1962. and since promotion. we had lost 2 and drawn 1 derby match. our winning spell against them begun with the 3-1 win at the end of 68. In '68, they were reigning champions, we had previously finished 15th.
3)...On our way to success in '68, we broke no records on the way to lift us and give us belief.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

John, I wasn't around in the 60s so can't say why for sure the attitude was how it was but if we're to compare the differing attitudes of the eras the Rags domestic football domination over the last two decades has to be considered.

I guess we were happy go lucky back in the day but the fact that we've been incessantly beaten with a Rag stick for so long now, we have developed an inferiority complex. Winning on Sunday will see us overcome that complex and a new attitude will engulf the City faithful imo.

[Socrates]

we have developed an inferiority complex.

Speak for your fucking self!

[Patrick]

No matter what happens, this has been best season in my memory and I'm 51. It's a great achievement it's a great success and I have been celebrating that since we beat the rags... I will still be celebrating the season even if something goes wrong at the weekend.

But the time to celebrate the title is on Sunday evening and then I'm going fucking mental.

Cheers Paddy but none of that explains why such a difference.

Is it because the 1960s were a brave new World for youth, a time of no fear? Was it just the confidence we had in the future? Is this new attitude a result of the Thatcher years that has produced a Thatcher mentality? Is it that life is much more complex now, whilst back then we were much more innocent and naive?

Help!!!!

No it's because there is still 90 odd minutes of football still to go, and from time to time shit happens! Surely life, not just football has taught you that.

The chances of us coming back to this point after the arsenal debacle are pretty similar to the chances of QPR beating us in my humble.

But I am so much more confident nowadays when city play, I expect us to win almost every game... Is that not enough?

I have waited 4 decades for this, another week is a doddle and I'd rather do it right.

In fact the last few weeks have been so exquisite I want to savour every single waking moment until, hopefully, about 6pm local time next Sunday, Mr Vincent Kompany stands in front of the camera and holds the premier league trophy aloft.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Success is winning something...we have won fuckall up to now.

You should take a leaf out of Citys management and playing staff...they are like us..happy but not going overboard.

I just dont get fans like you going mental before the 6th number comes in.

Heres some Mancini advise for you John.

Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini has ordered his players to keep calm and carry on as they close in on the Premier League title. "In one game, it can change. It's in our hands and we are playing at the Etihad Stadium. But it doesn't change anything.

"We need to keep our concentration and our good attitude like we have in the last four or five weeks.

"We can talk after Sunday, not today. It is too early."

Carl,
Sorry mate but that was not thee question I was asking Pal. I understand and respect where you are coming from. As emotional being, we are kindred spirits. You expel your feelings one way and I another but it is still emotion.
I was asking why such a massive difference between City fans then and what we have now. The circumstances are almost identical but the fans attitude and reaction to it are Worlds apart.
I an genuinely not being critical Mate. It has bewildered me all season and I would love to know why.

Different era different attitude mate...also we were mostly shite and expected fuckall from our team so we just enjoyed what we had to the max.....bananas and all..Im ovbviously talking about my age group..Im 46 and have only known shite and despair since.

It is all surreal right now.......but I would go with the majority in my age group that we still expect to fall at the final hurdle so as not to be too fuckign suicidla when it does happen.

Hopefully we will get rid of that monkey on our back next sunday.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

we have developed an inferiority complex.

Speak for your fucking self!

How would explain it your fucking self?

[john68]

John, I wasn't around in the 60s so can't say why for sure the attitude was how it was but if we're to compare the differing attitudes of the eras the Rags domestic football domination over the last two decades has to be considered.

I guess we were happy go lucky back in the day but the fact that we've been incessantly beaten with a Rag stick for so long now, we have developed an inferiority complex. Winning on Sunday will see us overcome that complex and a new attitude will engulf the City faithful imo.

You may well have a point Pal.Though in '68, we had also suffered many years of ridicule at the hands of the rags. We too had been browbeaten by our failures and their successes. It was only really at the start of Liverpool's time of dominance and the rags were very much, as now, the media darlings, were seen as the dominant football team.

[Socrates]

we have developed an inferiority complex.

Speak for your fucking self!

How would explain it your fucking self?

That YOU (and others) have developed an inferiority complex. I just see an old injustice being righted and feel very righteous about it!

[Foreverinbluedreams]

we have developed an inferiority complex.

Speak for your fucking self!

How would explain it your fucking self?

That YOU (and others) have developed an inferiority complex. I just see an old injustice being righted and feel very righteous about it!

We are speaking about the attitude of City fans as a collective are we not?