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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Original Dub » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:19 pm

The Man In Blue wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:He doesn't seem to be improving as manager though so we'll see what the future holds for him.


this

Season: 08/09--09/10--Diff
Played: ---9--------9-----(+0)
Won: -----3--------5-----(+2)
Drawn: ---1--------3-----(+2)
Lost: -----5--------1-----(-4)
For: -----14-------18----(+4)
Aga: ----16-------11-----(-5)
GD: ----(-2)-----(+7)---(+9)
Pts: -----10-------18----(+8)


seems to disagree with you.



NQDP can you address this post please?

WARNING though before you do - it does contain FACTS.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby sandman » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:38 pm

Wonderwall wrote:We were poor today, it wasnt down to hughes, it was down to the players.


It was the same against portsmouth, Villa, Wigan, Fulham, Birmingham... who's job is it to set them straight and who isnt up to that responsibility?

He has got no track record of substantial success and doesnt appear to know how to acheive it even with one of the most expensive squads in the world?

Also any comments on the Carling Cup hold no water as we have got past one reasonable team unconvincingly and destroyed a poor team, lets see how we do against Arsenal with our recent performances, I have a feeling it wont be the same result as we saw last time out against them?
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby blackburnblue » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:54 pm

sandman wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:We were poor today, it wasnt down to hughes, it was down to the players.


It was the same against portsmouth, Villa, Wigan, Fulham, Birmingham... who's job is it to set them straight and who isnt up to that responsibility?

He has got no track record of substantial success and doesnt appear to know how to acheive it even with one of the most expensive squads in the world?

Also any comments on the Carling Cup hold no water as we have got past one reasonable team unconvincingly and destroyed a poor team, lets see how we do against Arsenal with our recent performances, I have a feeling it wont be the same result as we saw last time out against them?

pompey; didn't we win that game?
villa; thought we fought back well for a good point against a top six side away from home.
wigan; this isnt the wigan of last season. we again came back well and picked up a point which wqe wouldn't have done last season.
fulham; the only major disappointment of the season for me. We outplayed then for long periods but gave away 2 soft goals.
brum;although I was hoping for 3 points I thought the home side scrapped well and made life difficult for us.AGAIN WE WOULD HAVE LOST THIS GAME LAST YEAR.
I will repeat; would you have taken our current position after 10 games at the start of the season?
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Socrates » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:04 pm

blackburnblue wrote:
sandman wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:We were poor today, it wasnt down to hughes, it was down to the players.


It was the same against portsmouth, Villa, Wigan, Fulham, Birmingham... who's job is it to set them straight and who isnt up to that responsibility?

He has got no track record of substantial success and doesnt appear to know how to acheive it even with one of the most expensive squads in the world?

Also any comments on the Carling Cup hold no water as we have got past one reasonable team unconvincingly and destroyed a poor team, lets see how we do against Arsenal with our recent performances, I have a feeling it wont be the same result as we saw last time out against them?

pompey; didn't we win that game?
villa; thought we fought back well for a good point against a top six side away from home.
wigan; this isnt the wigan of last season. we again came back well and picked up a point which wqe wouldn't have done last season.
fulham; the only major disappointment of the season for me. We outplayed then for long periods but gave away 2 soft goals.
brum;although I was hoping for 3 points I thought the home side scrapped well and made life difficult for us.AGAIN WE WOULD HAVE LOST THIS GAME LAST YEAR.
I will repeat; would you have taken our current position after 10 games at the start of the season?


It's a bit like the end of Sven's season mate. If we'd had that season's results in reverse order then people would have been happy with the finish and the direction we were going. But many were fed up because they were seeing regression before their eyes. The first quarter of this season has been similar. Difference is, Hughes has the time and resources to steer us back on track. Hopefully...
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby sandman » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:10 pm

blackburnblue wrote:
sandman wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:We were poor today, it wasnt down to hughes, it was down to the players.


It was the same against portsmouth, Villa, Wigan, Fulham, Birmingham... who's job is it to set them straight and who isnt up to that responsibility?

He has got no track record of substantial success and doesnt appear to know how to acheive it even with one of the most expensive squads in the world?

Also any comments on the Carling Cup hold no water as we have got past one reasonable team unconvincingly and destroyed a poor team, lets see how we do against Arsenal with our recent performances, I have a feeling it wont be the same result as we saw last time out against them?

pompey; didn't we win that game?
villa; thought we fought back well for a good point against a top six side away from home.
wigan; this isnt the wigan of last season. we again came back well and picked up a point which wqe wouldn't have done last season.
fulham; the only major disappointment of the season for me. We outplayed then for long periods but gave away 2 soft goals.
brum;although I was hoping for 3 points I thought the home side scrapped well and made life difficult for us.AGAIN WE WOULD HAVE LOST THIS GAME LAST YEAR.
I will repeat; would you have taken our current position after 10 games at the start of the season?


I wish I could be so contented with the substandard and mediocrity but I support a club that have spent ove £200m in two seasons and they dont look a fraction of the pricetag due to lack of organisation and motivation.

Position I am happy yes, performances I am not happy no, we still have Liverpool and Chelsea to come before xmas, if we can win the easy matches we'll get anihilated against class. The we all start again after xmas and have 4 top sides to play and a bag load of poor sides to draw against. My opinion is not based on 9 games but 47!!
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:18 pm

Socrates wrote:At least he's changed his name from LLLLLLLLLLLLes to DDDDDDDDDDDDDDes ;o)

Only you said that chief, and it was pretty unfunny the first time round.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby blackburnblue » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:18 pm

Socrates wrote:
blackburnblue wrote:
sandman wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:We were poor today, it wasnt down to hughes, it was down to the players.


It was the same against portsmouth, Villa, Wigan, Fulham, Birmingham... who's job is it to set them straight and who isnt up to that responsibility?

He has got no track record of substantial success and doesnt appear to know how to acheive it even with one of the most expensive squads in the world?

Also any comments on the Carling Cup hold no water as we have got past one reasonable team unconvincingly and destroyed a poor team, lets see how we do against Arsenal with our recent performances, I have a feeling it wont be the same result as we saw last time out against them?

pompey; didn't we win that game?
villa; thought we fought back well for a good point against a top six side away from home.
wigan; this isnt the wigan of last season. we again came back well and picked up a point which wqe wouldn't have done last season.
fulham; the only major disappointment of the season for me. We outplayed then for long periods but gave away 2 soft goals.
brum;although I was hoping for 3 points I thought the home side scrapped well and made life difficult for us.AGAIN WE WOULD HAVE LOST THIS GAME LAST YEAR.
I will repeat; would you have taken our current position after 10 games at the start of the season?


It's a bit like the end of Sven's season mate. If we'd had that season's results in reverse order then people would have been happy with the finish and the direction we were going. But many were fed up because they were seeing regression before their eyes. The first quarter of this season has been similar. Difference is, Hughes has the time and resources to steer us back on track. Hopefully...

agreed and I think he will steer us back. Another importasnt factor is that we have only played 4 out of 10 games at home and we have two "gimmee" home matches coming up in Burnley and Hull.
If we can reach the turn of the year averaging 2 points a match I shall be well chuffed and with a bit of tweaking in Jan maybe we can push on for a top 4 slot and who knows maybe even a wembley appearance......
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Socrates » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:29 pm

LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:
Socrates wrote:At least he's changed his name from LLLLLLLLLLLLes to DDDDDDDDDDDDDDes ;o)

Only you said that chief, and it was pretty unfunny the first time round.


Don't worry mate. I'm well aware that 99% of people on here don't find anything funny unless it involves masturbation.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby The Man In Blue » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:37 pm

Original Dub wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:He doesn't seem to be improving as manager though so we'll see what the future holds for him.


this

Season: 08/09--09/10--Diff
Played: ---9--------9-----(+0)
Won: -----3--------5-----(+2)
Drawn: ---1--------3-----(+2)
Lost: -----5--------1-----(-4)
For: -----14-------18----(+4)
Aga: ----16-------11-----(-5)
GD: ----(-2)-----(+7)---(+9)
Pts: -----10-------18----(+8)


seems to disagree with you.



NQDP can you address this post please?

WARNING though before you do - it does contain FACTS.


anyone?

and nqdp could you explain what you mean by this?

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:You are living in 2 points for win days. As is Hughes.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:42 pm

Vhero wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
mr_nool wrote:
Dameerto wrote:a 38 game season and you want him out after a run of four, give me a fekking break.


Of course you have to take last seaosn in to consideration ...


Sure, let's take our away record last season into consideration then...

exactly how many did we win we wont 1 this fucking season against blackburn and we think things have turned around?



? did I dream Portsmouth??

We have been beaten only once away from home by a fiddled 96th minute goal - having been a CITY fan for 40 years and I cannot be arsed to loook things up - but I cannot remember such an away record - and I mean EVER - and I have been to most of those matches!!

so yes that is progress for me

sure I would like to have won a couple more - but some of the views on here (and I am not particularly meaning yours) are just so incredibly negative - almost like people want to be miserable fuckers and are not able to enjoy this great time
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:44 pm

blues-clues wrote:Hmmm.

Anyone who really thought we were going to win the league this season now realises they might have to wait a year or two longer.

We are 4th with a game in hand. We are still looking up at where we can get to and not looking down at who can overtake us.

We have lost only one game all season.

We have an excellent squad but do not have an established first team. Partnerships within the team are taking longer to yield than the more optimistic of us would have liked and perhaps too many players consider themselves to be on the fringe and are trying to do more complicated things than they are really capable of just to create the right impression.

Liverpool would swap positions with us in a heartbeat.



Ahhh - someone able to speak some sense on here - maybe on FM teams all gel in an instant
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Chinners » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:48 pm

Socrates wrote:
LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:
Socrates wrote:At least he's changed his name from LLLLLLLLLLLLes to DDDDDDDDDDDDDDes ;o)

Only you said that chief, and it was pretty unfunny the first time round.


Don't worry mate. I'm well aware that 99% of people on here don't find anything funny unless it involves masturbation.


Ha ha ha you said Masturbation . . . er . . . um . . . ha ha
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby edge275 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:50 pm

Socrates wrote:
LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:
Socrates wrote:At least he's changed his name from LLLLLLLLLLLLes to DDDDDDDDDDDDDDes ;o)

Only you said that chief, and it was pretty unfunny the first time round.


Don't worry mate. I'm well aware that 99% of people on here don't find anything funny unless it involves masturbation.


LMAO!!!!!!

That was genuinely funny, and very true.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby The Man In Blue » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:51 pm

blues-clues wrote:Hmmm.

Anyone who really thought we were going to win the league this season now realises they might have to wait a year or two longer.

We are 4th with a game in hand. We are still looking up at where we can get to and not looking down at who can overtake us.

We have lost only one game all season.

We have an excellent squad but do not have an established first team. Partnerships within the team are taking longer to yield than the more optimistic of us would have liked and perhaps too many players consider themselves to be on the fringe and are trying to do more complicated things than they are really capable of just to create the right impression.

Liverpool would swap positions with us in a heartbeat.


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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby zuricity » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:40 pm

Is simply not good enough for an ROI.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:32 am

The Man In Blue wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:He doesn't seem to be improving as manager though so we'll see what the future holds for him.


this

Season: 08/09--09/10--Diff
Played: ---9--------9-----(+0)
Won: -----3--------5-----(+2)
Drawn: ---1--------3-----(+2)
Lost: -----5--------1-----(-4)
For: -----14-------18----(+4)
Aga: ----16-------11-----(-5)
GD: ----(-2)-----(+7)---(+9)
Pts: -----10-------18----(+8)


seems to disagree with you.


jesus! We were hanging near relegation zone last christmas. And you are using that as measure??? Ok, I give you that, after spending 250m we aren't going to be in relegation trouble anymore.

Age old argument is that 'anyone can win championship with money'. That was said when Mourinho was in Chelsea and did it for less money and it was said when Blackburn won the title. It's fair to say that Hughes is proving that this simply isn't the case. He has however proved that you will not get relegated if you have enough money to spend. I subscribe to that now and you have proved me wrong.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Wonderwall » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:57 am

The difference with the so called "Money" these days is there are other teams with Money as well. It will be difficult to wrestle the title away from the rags or Chelsea as they have spent big and have had their squad together for quite some time and they just add players to it to keep improving it, rather than buying in bulk which is what we had to do.

Why do people think that all of our players should know each others games when they have only had 10 league games together and we have not been able to field our best 11 yet as we have had a shit load of injuries. We have not been able to field a consistent 11 players week in and week out, yet we are doing very well in the league and the cup.

Some people will search for all the possible negativity they can muster and it makes them look very silly indeed at this moment in time. To try and slate the team for their position after 10 games and to even think about the title is ludicrous, even for this place.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby mcfc1632 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:21 am

zuricity wrote:Is simply not good enough for an ROI.



What as the EIre got to do with our club?
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Bingo Lewis » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:52 am

I think things need to be addressed.
Teams are hungrier than us to get the points, thats our problem.
Too many times their was a loose ball in the area which I thought we could have got to, but Birmingham we're always more hungry to clear it than we were to put it in the net. Main culprits for this were Tevez, Santa and Barry. Barry just seems to plod around the pitch without any urgency. Its very frustating to watch. Is this the Manager's fault? I don't know. But summat needs to be done, so many times yesterday players were making the wrong descision. Why the fuck the defence kept hoofing it up to Tevez and Bellers and SWP, just for them to get beaten to the header, I don't know. So many shite passes that either went out of play or straight to them, and so many times they knocked the ball long and we headed it right back at them when we had the time to control it and play it out.

Silly mistakes that can be sorted, but they don't seem to be getting sorted.

I don't know who to blame, I think the players need to take a look at themselves, stop thinking they have the right to walk through games and win, and start upping the fucking tempo a bit, and I think the Sheik needs to stop the rot with Hughes quick time. Give him a proper talking to and make it clear that shit runs like this aren't acceptable after spending this much dough and having the squad we have. Tell him 5 games 4 wins or its management review time.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Beeks » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:18 am

The Man In Blue wrote:1 loss in 12, hughes out.


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