Come on you Septics

[Beefymcfc]

What the fuck are you on about, Fucktard! I haven't sidestepped anything and cannot actually see what the fuck you are on about! I'll say no more as I may say something I'll regret!!!

You see I didn't call you a fucktard, mainly because I am trying to remain civil here. If we cannot remain civil to one another let me know, I am quite good at that too.

You said England were in no danger of finishing anywhere but top.

I said that Ukraine and Croatia are very real threats and had a good track record and even managed to beat England to a spot for the 2008 Euro's.

You then said, that was your point that you can only beat what's in front of you.

While that point is correct albeit an awful cliche, that was not the point you made initially.

The point you made initially was in fact, wrong.

No Slim lad, you are putting words in my mouth! I said that England were favourites to win the group (which they were) for the Euro's and that now we had a decent manager, there wasn't much in the way of our qualification. You, on the other hand, chose to change the criteria, subtley but for sure, to make me sound a Fucktard, with your quaint mention in your original post to me.

So the point I made intially was not wrong, just corrupted!

[kinkylola]

Slight thread drift - and no axe to grind! Got to thinking about American City players, the only ones I came up with are Beasley and Reyna, think they both played for the US national team (in fact wasn't Reyna the captain for a while?). Anyone come up with any more? And is playing for a premiership team seen as being quite a big deal over there?

I think those are the only 2, and yes reyna was captain for about as long as he was with the national team.

I think it is a 'big deal' for us to have players in the prem because it represents improvement, obviously for the individual players but also great promise for the national team as a whole. But I'd say we like to see players go to any of the top leagues, it can only help us improve. You have to play with the best to get better after all.

[Somerset Blue]

Slight thread drift - and no axe to grind! Got to thinking about American City players, the only ones I came up with are Beasley and Reyna, think they both played for the US national team (in fact wasn't Reyna the captain for a while?). Anyone come up with any more? And is playing for a premiership team seen as being quite a big deal over there?

I think those are the only 2, and yes reyna was captain for about as long as he was with the national team.

I think it is a 'big deal' for us to have players in the prem because it represents improvement, obviously for the individual players but also great promise for the national team as a whole. But I'd say we like to see players go to any of the top leagues, it can only help us improve. You have to play with the best to get better after all.

For the national side, what's the general proportion of players who play their club football in the US as opposed to abroad?

[Beefymcfc]

Slight thread drift - and no axe to grind! Got to thinking about American City players, the only ones I came up with are Beasley and Reyna, think they both played for the US national team (in fact wasn't Reyna the captain for a while?). Anyone come up with any more? And is playing for a premiership team seen as being quite a big deal over there?

This seems to have been lost, but well worthy of an answer!

[DoomMerchant]

Slight thread drift - and no axe to grind! Got to thinking about American City players, the only ones I came up with are Beasley and Reyna, think they both played for the US national team (in fact wasn't Reyna the captain for a while?). Anyone come up with any more? And is playing for a premiership team seen as being quite a big deal over there?

This seems to have been lost, but well worthy of an answer!

does fucking a porn star sound like a great chance at hot sex?

cheers

[kinkylola]

Slight thread drift - and no axe to grind! Got to thinking about American City players, the only ones I came up with are Beasley and Reyna, think they both played for the US national team (in fact wasn't Reyna the captain for a while?). Anyone come up with any more? And is playing for a premiership team seen as being quite a big deal over there?

I think those are the only 2, and yes reyna was captain for about as long as he was with the national team.

I think it is a 'big deal' for us to have players in the prem because it represents improvement, obviously for the individual players but also great promise for the national team as a whole. But I'd say we like to see players go to any of the top leagues, it can only help us improve. You have to play with the best to get better after all.

For the national side, what's the general proportion of players who play their club football in the US as opposed to abroad?

The first string are almost completely foreign based ... with the exception of donovan I believe. He has the skill (though overrated) to make it in a bigger league, but not the mentality at all. It's disappointing to say the least.

the second string are pretty much all home-league based. That being said, anyone with any ambition/talent wants to get out of the mls as soon as possible ... or atleast should want to in my opinion. I think one reason why freddy adu "flopped" though he's still only 20(?) is that he stayed in the mls so long ... and started so young. He was starting in the MLS when he was 14. Should have been at a big club being developed by top coaches. Thankfully Altidore has left sooner, and has a decent chance of unlearning all the shit he learned in MLS from shit coaches.

edit: most GK's who have a realistic shot of starting are foreign based (Howard, Guzan, etc ...)

[Somerset Blue]

Must be quite a dilemma - them playing abroad will make them better players and strengthen your national team, but at the expense of the domestic game.

Edit: you mention GKs, there seem to be a lot of US keepers in English football, certainly a higher proportion than any other position.

[Beefymcfc]

Slight thread drift - and no axe to grind! Got to thinking about American City players, the only ones I came up with are Beasley and Reyna, think they both played for the US national team (in fact wasn't Reyna the captain for a while?). Anyone come up with any more? And is playing for a premiership team seen as being quite a big deal over there?

This seems to have been lost, but well worthy of an answer!

does fucking a porn star sound like a great chance at hot sex?

cheers

Answered well my friend, but take it you're no porn star?

Frosty!

[mr_nool]

Must be quite a dilemma - them playing abroad will make them better players and strengthen your national team, but at the expense of the domestic game.

Edit: you mention GKs, there seem to be a lot of US keepers in English football, certainly a higher proportion than any other position.

That's the same for most countries, though, England, Spain, Italy, Germany being the exceptions.

[Beefymcfc]

So, considering the 1st couple of posts, how would you rate the domestic leagues (ie. Top 10 leagues aound the World)?

[mr_nool]

So, considering the 1st couple of posts, how would you rate the domestic leagues (ie. Top 10 leagues aound the World)?

1. England
2. Spain
3. Germany
4. Italy
5. France
6. Brazil
7. Argentina
8. Holland
9. Portugal
10. Mexico

Don't know too much about the South/Latin American leagues, though.
Holland and Portugal is a toss up. The top in Portugal is better, but I think the overall standard of the Dutch is better. That's the same reason as to why I place the German league ahead of the Italian.

[kinkylola]

Must be quite a dilemma - them playing abroad will make them better players and strengthen your national team, but at the expense of the domestic game.

Edit: you mention GKs, there seem to be a lot of US keepers in English football, certainly a higher proportion than any other position.

Seems we produce alot of quality GK's ... dunno why exactly, except maybe that all our most popular sports concentrate on eye-hand coordination. baseball, football, basketball. Having played Baseball my whole life, I always found it much easier to track a soccer ball, and so always made a decent keeper ... though my preferred position is striker. Being able to use hands seems very natural and easy for me.

So, considering the 1st couple of posts, how would you rate the domestic leagues (ie. Top 10 leagues aound the World)?

1. England
2. Spain
3. Germany
4. Italy
5. France
6. Brazil
7. Argentina
8. Holland
9. Portugal
10. Mexico

Don't know too much about the South/Latin American leagues, though.
Holland and Portugal is a toss up. The top in Portugal is better, but I think the overall standard of the Dutch is better. That's the same reason as to why I place the German league ahead of the Italian.

I dunno man ... the mexican league is pretty shit. I would put scotland ahead of that. I also think the German league has definitely improved but myself would switch them with italy

[Somerset Blue]

Seems we produce alot of quality GK's ...

Stallone in Escape to Victory. "Can you do it with your mouth closed?". Great film.

[fangsanalsatan]

1. England
2. Spain
3. Germany
3. Italy
5. France
6. Portugal
6. Russia
8. Argentina
9. Holland
10. Brazil

[Kyle]

1. England
2. Spain
3. Germany
3. Italy
5. France
6. Portugal
6. Russia
8. Argentina
9. Holland
10. Brazil

Spot on. I would only swap Holland and Argentina...

[Michigan Blue]

Wow.

Heartbreak for Costa Rica. They were in tears coming off the pitch.

[kinkylola]

they were about 8 seconds from qualification. that is brutal.

playoff vs. uruguay nov. 10 i think

[mr_nool]

1. England
2. Spain
3. Germany
3. Italy
5. France
6. Portugal
6. Russia
8. Argentina
9. Holland
10. Brazil

Spot on. I would only swap Holland and Argentina...

Oh, forgot about the Russian league. And the Turkish. And the Ukrainian. All three could give Portugal and Holland a good run.

[BmoreBlue]

had a bunch of friends go to the game last night - got a picture text from one of a guy there wearing a reyna City kit. thought it was worth mentioning.

[Rag_hater]

According to CNN the Yanks are taking 100,000 fans.
More than any other nation so far