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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:19 pm

The weekly Robbie to Barca thread followed by city fans happy to be shut.

Fucking madness.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby CityGer » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:50 pm

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:The weekly Robbie to Barca thread followed by city fans happy to be shut.

Fucking madness.


Eh???

You do very little these days other than maon about what other people are posting. To suggest that this happens on a weekly basis is just fucking daft.

The topic has been well debated so far. What are your views on it??
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby paulmclaren » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:00 pm

I like robinho too.
I just find he is extremely over rated imo.
That does not make me say, 'oh he's wank', as everyone knows he is not wank.
Robinho is not even the best player we have in our squad now.
I'd say he is the 3rd best player.
If he is unhappy, leave, simples.
But he has said time and time again he is happy.
And if he is happy to stay(who wouldn't be on 160k A FUCKING WEEK?).
If he wants to stay.
Stay.
But if he's after a move.
Do not loan him out.
Sell him.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Beeks » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:20 pm

Robbie is a great player and whether you rate him or not...like him or not... if he goes to Barca it will weaken our team and strengthen a potential european rival

That's about the top and bottom of it
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:21 pm

Sister of fu wrote:Do people actually think he is world class. I find this gets banded about a lot the words "world class" and IMO robby is not. Just does not do it enough for me and I would not put him in the same bracket as your Messi's and Ronaldo. They both equally turn up in the big games and the ones against so called lesser teams. Not saying he can't be but just feel he needs to do
more. I guess it's now debatable if that will be with City.


We'll find that out this season. He used to blow hot & cold at Madrid; be electric for 6 games, on the bench for the next 6 etc. Last season he was playing with Caicedo, Jo, Ched Evans & Benjani to aim the passes at. Now he has Adebayor, Tevez, Santa Cruz & Bellamy with Barry, Ireland,SWP & Petrov in the equation. It's one of the best collections of attacking talent ever assembled just begging for the big star to light it up. If Ronaldo, Messi or even Rooney were mixed in with that lot they'd be outstanding. Now it's Robbie's chance to show us what he can do.

I think he'll be absolutely fantastic but if he isn't then he's not the real deal & it'll be his fault & his alone. In that case, pay Bayern whatever they want for Ribery & send Robbie to Barca.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Goaters 103 » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:42 pm

More a question of when, not if, he trots off to Barca.

The big thing will be what we get in return. Ya Ya Toure, and a boatload of cash would help things.

As it stands at present, even when back to fitness Robinho would not walk back into City's team and even I can't believe I'm writing that - certainly not when we are away from home anyway, when like Petrov, he has zero interest in tracking back. Thats why Leslie loves Bellers in that role.

At home, and against the likes of Fulham, Bolton and much of the other dross Robbie becomes far more valuable in unlocking a team with 11 behind the ball, but away from home in the winter when we are under the cosh I really dont think Hughes trusts or fancies him.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby bobadji » Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:45 am

Get out Barca, we should tell them no chance. I'd want their midfield in return. Robinho is an amazing talent and has produced some of the best football i've ever seen at city, why would people not mind if he goes? mad.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:26 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:The weekly Robbie to Barca thread followed by city fans happy to be shut.

Fucking madness.



This - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We win the lottery with our new owners - and there was lots of posts about we will not be like fans of the scum / chelski - playing fantasy football and be arrogant about who is good (or not) to play for us

In reality it has not taken some of us long to start sounding like scum / chelski fans

Robinho (in the views of some of the best judges in football) is a top top player - as an example - the manager and owners of the current CL winners think he will just finish their team off nicely - but of course we CITY fans are not sure he is good enough for us

For what it is worth - at home I see him behind Ade with Bellers left and Tevez right - setting up goals for fun and I see being a sub or starting in a revised formation away from home dependent on the opposition
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby john68 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:31 am

I'm undecided. There are times when I find watching him frustrating, knowing he is capable of "much more". Then when I see some of that "much more", it's awesome.
I don't believe the rumours of him having baggage. He always seems to have a smile on his face and I think some of the rumours are generated from a rag and southern based media, who still consider that little City have no right to have such an accomplished player.

Tactically I could see that on occasions, his style of play out wide can be counterproductive. We are a counterattacking team, reliant on fast breaks upfield and speed. His holding onto the ball could slow this down. We all loved Rodney Marsh and drooled at his super skills but he adversly affected the effectiveness of the team.

Apart from that, he is sheer quality and...Can we ever have enough of that?
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:02 am

I dont think that to say we are becoming more rag-like is fair. We are in the top 4 so far, and I don't think Robinho would have added ANYTHING to the games we lost and drew thus far - which both happened to be away from home. At home, he is a different proposition as we saw last year, but we have won all our home games reasonably comfortably and thus again, I dont think he would have added anything to what we have achieved - although as someone else has said, he doubtless will be a key player when a team turns up and parks the bus which no doubt we will see from the likes of Hull.

Aside from that, as things stand we are doing quite nicely thank you, and if he left it would not leave the sort of fundamental tactical problems the rags have now ronaldo has gone and thus whilst it would be a disappointment for us all, I would have to say that if his natural inconsistency (throughout his career) means he spends most of his time on the bench, I would much rather we used the £30m on a player who will improve the 1st 11.

I would be reluctant to let him go in Jan as losing Adebayor will be a factor in that decision, but in the summer, if he wants to go, let him. I would wish him well if he went, I suppose sitting on the bench in Barcelona is at least going to be warmer than sitting on it in Manchester.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:07 am

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Robbie is a great player and whether you rate him or not...like him or not... if he goes to Barca it will weaken our team and strengthen a potential european rival

That's about the top and bottom of it


This.

Just about only sensible post on this topic so far.

Personally I can't understand why people always have to slag some other player off when they show support to another. In this case, these topics started appearing after Bellamy found his great form. Why not be happy that we have both.

Regardless of what some people would have you believe, losing Robbie would be absolutely massive set back for us.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Robinho_Is_GOD » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:44 am

The press want Robinho out of City and eventually they will get there wish
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Robinho_Is_GOD » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:00 am

Svensational wrote:
Robinho_Is_GOD wrote:The press want Robinho out of City and eventually they will get there wish


What makes you say that?

The papers have decreed they want him gone and they will keep it up untill he his gone
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:11 am

Robinho_Is_GOD wrote:The press want Robinho out of City and eventually they will get there wish



Yes I can sense a touch of discomfort that CITY have a player that must be seen as genuine world class by most top managers etc

People (press and fans of other clubs) can get their heads around our other players:

Ade - well just wait until he gets lazy and has attitude - they say
Tevez - well he was only a sub - he is not really worth the money - he only went there for the money - they say
Bellamy - he is always trouble wherever he goes and he will get crocked - they say
Barry - wanted CL?? - just gone for the money - anyway will not play for England once the scum players are fit - they say


It is only Rob that they cannot make such comments about - Chelski would have him at a shot - so would Barca - just what on earth are we CITY fans thinking about

Yes it has all gone very well so far - but if Bellers does get injured? or Tevez or ....

We have a jewel in our squad - why on earth would be lose him - what would make him want to go? - well losing the love of the fans maybe

Personally I think he will play the best football possibly ever see in a CITY shirt in an advanced MF role rather than out left

I think that SWP will lose out and Bellers will be left and Tevez right of him - I do admit to 'drooling' at the thought of what he could do given the much more space that he will get now that opposition teams have more than one player to worry about

We need to be planning to add to our squad in January - particularly RB - so we finish strong whilst the old Sky 4 are struggling with utility players etc
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:32 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Robbie is a great player and whether you rate him or not...like him or not... if he goes to Barca it will weaken our team and strengthen a potential european rival

That's about the top and bottom of it


This.

Just about only sensible post on this topic so far.

Personally I can't understand why people always have to slag some other player off when they show support to another. In this case, these topics started appearing after Bellamy found his great form. Why not be happy that we have both.

Regardless of what some people would have you believe, losing Robbie would be absolutely massive set back for us.



The only setback I can see is from a prestige point of view, as the money will doubtless be spent on a replacement who complements the work ethic of the other players Les has brought in. Robinho is not critical to our style of play - in fact he would possibly be more of a hindrance when you consider the way we have set out our stall this year.

Last year Robbie was crucial to us for his goals, but we have moved on from there, we have Adebayor and Bellamy turning out to be better than any of us dared hope, and turning in mom displays week after week by defending from the front along with Tevez. Even more tellingly, Petrov is starting to get involved as proved against West Ham, and on his return if Robbie shows himself still unwilling to do this, I can't see Hughes having a second thought about letting him go.

On the flip side, I hold out a (very) slim hope that he will up his game to his return with the better players around him. I look forward to seeing how he reacts, but regardless, I dont think it will be the end of the world if he left.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:50 am

johnpb78 wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
IanBishopsHaircut wrote:Robbie is a great player and whether you rate him or not...like him or not... if he goes to Barca it will weaken our team and strengthen a potential european rival

That's about the top and bottom of it


This.

Just about only sensible post on this topic so far.

Personally I can't understand why people always have to slag some other player off when they show support to another. In this case, these topics started appearing after Bellamy found his great form. Why not be happy that we have both.

Regardless of what some people would have you believe, losing Robbie would be absolutely massive set back for us.



The only setback I can see is from a prestige point of view, as the money will doubtless be spent on a replacement who complements the work ethic of the other players Les has brought in. Robinho is not critical to our style of play - in fact he would possibly be more of a hindrance when you consider the way we have set out our stall this year.

Last year Robbie was crucial to us for his goals, but we have moved on from there, we have Adebayor and Bellamy turning out to be better than any of us dared hope, and turning in mom displays week after week by defending from the front along with Tevez. Even more tellingly, Petrov is starting to get involved as proved against West Ham, and on his return if Robbie shows himself still unwilling to do this, I can't see Hughes having a second thought about letting him go.

On the flip side, I hold out a (very) slim hope that he will up his game to his return with the better players around him. I look forward to seeing how he reacts, but regardless, I dont think it will be the end of the world if he left.


I would have to disagree.
Workmanlike team is great when you are chasing 5th or 6th spot. However I believe our target is much higher than that. To achieve what we are aiming for in the future we will need attacking players who have that talent and creative spark to win games with moment of genious.

Our game against Aston Villa was a prime example. We had good hard working team on the pitch but we were getting nowhere until introduction of Ireland who finally opened their defence for the equaliser. Robinho is like that as well. He can turn tight games for us, even more so now that he is surrounded by brilliant players who can work both ways.

There is a fine line between having a hardworking team and having a team that work horses who can't win that games. I hate to use rags as example but the how many games did Tranaldo win them despite being complete anonymous most of the game? Dozens. We need match winners just as much as grafters.

I'm NOT going to turn this into Hughes argument as he is doing well right now but my MAIN worry, which I repeated time and time again, with Hughes is that is he the kind of manager who can sample winning team like that. I don't mean just breaking into top 4 every now and then but what Sheik expects, all conquering team. Remains to be seen. Selling Robinho and replacing him with Yaya (despite him being top notch player) would be step in wrong direction in my opinion.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Rag_hater » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:08 am

I think the Sheikh must be loving this.
The current European champs want one of our players.
I think its the kind of publicity he bought Robson for in the first place.
And as I see it he is on a 5 year contract and aint going anywhere despite however much the Robson haters want him gone.
I think if Hughes farms him out on loan or sells him me will be shooting himself in the foot.
Some of our fans are so fickle its unbelieveable.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby razor400 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:29 am

Letting Robbie go would be stupid, letting him go to a team that hopefully will be our rivals in europe next season is an even stupider idea. And as for all this we don't need him bollocks, have a fucking word with yourselves you fucking cretins.
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby mcfc1632 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:01 am

Rag_hater wrote:I think the Sheikh must be loving this.
The current European champs want one of our players.
I think its the kind of publicity he bought Robson for in the first place.
And as I see it he is on a 5 year contract and aint going anywhere despite however much the Robson haters want him gone.
I think if Hughes farms him out on loan or sells him me will be shooting himself in the foot.
Some of our fans are so fickle its unbelieveable.



I am with you on this - mind you all this Rob to Barca - where does it come from????

Has there been any credible sources??? - I have heard none - all I see is the club making absolutely sure that he is right before his comeback - good approach that we are able to do because our squad is so strong - and those that have come in are doing really well - competition is clearly a great motivation!!

Why would Hughes weaken his squad?? - does not make sense

No CITY fan has yet seen what Rob could do if he is allowed to play in his preffered position and in a team that has other stars so he is not being man-marked and kicked - why on earth would CITY fans not want to see that?? - and then if he does not make the grade (by which I mean really gel with this team - he already is in a different grade to most) - then act

I do not understand what is gained by CITY fans inventing / gossiping in this way
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Re: Robinho on loan to Barca?

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:44 am

CityGer wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:The weekly Robbie to Barca thread followed by city fans happy to be shut.

Fucking madness.


Eh???

You do very little these days other than maon about what other people are posting. To suggest that this happens on a weekly basis is just fucking daft.

The topic has been well debated so far. What are your views on it??



You're dead wrong mate, I gave my opinion on Robbie to Barca no more than a week or so ago. I suggest you look around if you don't think this is becmoming a repetitive theme.



Edit - found it, thread started a week ago, not bragging or anything. My opinion is in there as well, I'd be gutted if he left, my favourite player by a mile.

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