De Jong

[Kiss_The_Goat]

Now call Edge a xenophobic prick and REALLY sell it.

lmao!!

which would make you an arseless prick.

Just delete the last three words from this post and you're funny.

"You're shit, fuck off back to Holland"

Why? He is Dutch, he is from Holland. What's the problem?

What about if I named the village he's from? Or the street? Or am i then villagist or streetist respectively?

You're such a nobhead edge, why do you even bother coming on this board?!!
You don't like the manager, you dont like the players, you bitch when we win, bitch when we lose... do you even support City?

[edge275]

Now call Edge a xenophobic prick and REALLY sell it.

lmao!!

which would make you an arseless prick.

Just delete the last three words from this post and you're funny.

"You're shit, fuck off back to Holland"

Why? He is Dutch, he is from Holland. What's the problem?

What about if I named the village he's from? Or the street? Or am i then villagist or streetist respectively?

You're such a nobhead edge, why do you even bother coming on this board?!!
You don't like the manager, you dont like the players, you bitch when we win, bitch when we lose... do you even support City?

Incorrect.

I like Given, I think Toure is brilliant, I rate Barry, I rate Weiss, Adebayor has been sensational. Robinho is world class. Bridge has been very good this season.

However, I have question marks over Hughes and his coaches. I don't rate De Jong, Richards is annoying me with his lapses of concentration, I feel that Santa Cruz was a bad buy.

Above is a selection of my viewpoints. Perhaps you should read my comments more carefully, nobhead.

[Kiss_The_Goat]

Just delete the last three words from this post and you're funny.


Why? He is Dutch, he is from Holland. What's the problem?

What about if I named the village he's from? Or the street? Or am i then villagist or streetist respectively?

You're such a nobhead edge, why do you even bother coming on this board?!!
You don't like the manager, you dont like the players, you bitch when we win, bitch when we lose... do you even support City?

Incorrect.

I like Given, I think Toure is brilliant, I rate Barry, I rate Weiss, Adebayor has been sensational. Robinho is world class. Bridge has been very good this season.

However, I have question marks over Hughes and his coaches. I don't rate De Jong, Richards is annoying me with his lapses of concentration, I feel that Santa Cruz was a bad buy.

Above is a selection of my viewpoints. Perhaps you should read my comments more carefully, nobhead.

No thanks, they're consistently full of shit. I usually skip over them.

[edge275]

No thanks, they're consistently full of shit. I usually skip over them.

Ok, no worries.

[Blueboylewis]

Lads can i just get something straight. Isnt this board meant for people to talk about city and other stuff but the main thing is for people to have OPINIONS!!!! Yes some one might say something stupid but instead of having a massive pop just have a little bantered arguement with them without any serious stuff. There are some right nobs on here but myself and others just do our best to get on with them. Just give it a rest and stop arguing. People think de jong is a pile of shit. I think he has been one of our best buys and will be a quality player for us. A player is going to make a couple of mistakes a game ffs. They are HUMAN JUST LIKE US!!!

Just stop having a pop. Oh yeh someone on here could be buzzing with a players performance one game and the next game when the player has done his best but hasnt looked as good the comments start coming out e.g I WILL DRIVE HIM THERE MYSELF!!

Just grow up lads.

[Beefymcfc]

Since I couldn't understand the negativity of a few on here regarding the Schlong, I thought I'd check out a couple of other boards to see if there was a similar reaction. I wouldn't normally read another site but I thought it might be right and proper in order to get gauge opinion, rather than just on here. Anyway, below is an extract from 2 (both with continuous quotes):

From CityMancs:
Nigel De Jong is the best defensive midfielder in the league. An absolutely fantastic player, some of his tackles last night were simply brilliant. He has shown in his last three games that he should be one of the first names on the team sheet every single week

Smashing player I hope he does not want to leave!

be interesting when kompany gets back. kompany, de jong and barry seems pretty good in the middle

Yeah- we'd never concede with that midfield

kompany and barry like to go forward so we wont even miss out on any attacking runs

Great to see that players coming in are desperate to grab their chance, we haven`t had it in a long time!
Curiously, me and the guy next to me were thinking that he wasn`t the man for such a game as last night because when a team pitch up and don`t hardly make any effort to go forward, it almost makes the requirement for a defencive MF redundant.
However, he did play very well again and he did try to create a bit more too. Sometimes players get too easliy tagged. Just cos his main strength is defending and breaking up opposition play doesn`t mean he can`t create and get forward.
I seem to recall reading that he was a striker at Ajax and even as recent as when he went to Hamburg, it was their coach who converted him.

he was right back at ajax more often than not

Nige gets forward quite a bit when he plays for Holland. Undoubtedly MOTM last night.

From BlueMoon:
You have to admit that before the season started, you would never have expected him to feature AT ALL this season. But he's turning into the player that we payed £17m for.
Well Done Nigel.

i like him but were will kompany go. could you play barry de jong and kompany. leaving ireland out or leave swp out as ireland did play in swp position befor he came (badly though)

I always expected him to play a big role. But yeah he has been fantastic. I'm becoming less convinced that Yaya Toure would even be a significant improvement on him, he's been that good. Okay Yaya's distribution is probably better but it would still be a shame in a way if Nige was replaced by him at the end of the season, because he hasn't put a foot wrong and I can't see him doing either, he's a very consistant performer.

de jong......kompany..........barry.......... while ireland aint in form we could easily do this and it will hopefully make him raise his game

How did he get on last night? In fact could someone summarise all the players performances for me please?

Hopefully, Kompany will raise his game, otherwise he'll be a benchwarmer. This is all part of having a big, strong squad though and we should be happy with the problem. Personally, I'm not convinced that Lescott is the best or even the second best centre half at the club, so Kompany may get his opportunity there.

Never have expected him to feature at all, are you sure about that? I thought he would play quite a number of games.

It seems that many of you have never seen NdJ play before this season. If Y. Touré DOES come in Jan or next season, it's curtains for Kompany as Y. Touré can hold his own as a defender if he's REALLY needed.

..........NdJ..................Touré
....................Barry..............

is the future on a regular basis, if Touré signs. Ireland will be the new Elano and Kompany(who is overrated) is surplus to requirements, i.e., history.

can i stop you there please, why the hell would we never had expected him to start this season? he is an amazing player and we are not turning him into anythink he was the same player when we bought him(CLASS),such a stupid thread he is an international football player ffs and for holland aswell.Do you know anythink?

Well, after reading them (not in full of course) it became pretty clear that most, if not all, are of the opinion that he is class and that the few on here are very much in the minority.

One thing I would like to ask those who have the belief that the Schlong is not good for our team, is how do you come to your opinions; is it by 1st hand experience at the match, from the TV, from the radio or through other sources?

Just to state my own for you, I make my opinion by way of all the above, but mainly from 1st hand experience at the match. And, although I did not know that much about Nigel when we went in for him, was willing to see how he panned out (especially after paying in the region of 17 mil), and from what I've seen of the guy so far, he is proving to be a very good signing and an excellent player in the 1st team, and if he really can play in an all-round role, we may see a few of our current 1st teamers warming the bench!

[Slim]

1. His name is De Jong or Nigel or NDJ if you like. Schlong is a stupid nickname given to him by 10yo's who think it's funny to give him the name of a penis. Not clever, not funny, annoying more than anything.

2. He was shit last season, we had Kompany and a very inform Ireland playing in the midfield and we couldn't help but concede, so I guess it would be foolish to take onboard anything that comes from CityMancs if they truly believe a fortress could be constructed on the back of those two defensive midfielders.

3. Blue Moon is ridiculed on here for their lack of knowledge and now you are using them as back up for your point? As you stated, you make up your own mind, but it seems like that mind is not so sure of its convictions that it doesn't need a majority backing it up to feel validated. Don't try denying it, the proof IS your last post.

4. I said he was god awful in the Arsenal game and he was, the two goals came right through him, actually the second goal looked like they were taking the piss out of him the same way you would with a ball and an excitable dog. Do you want the ball? Do you? Do you want it? The first goal he was standing off the play and watching as the ball came in to RVP and didn't do anything to try and close down his room. Lescott makes a mistake, RVP scores but it never should have gotten that far if NDJ was doing his job.

5. I didn't say he was shit in the Utd game or the Fulham game(didn't see that one) but if we are critiquing it, when Ireland was moved left and we had Barry and De Jong in the middle, it was De Jong that was pleading for Hughes to move Ireland back into the midfield as we were being overrun so badly it looked like we were a pub team playing a world XI. Utd were playing two in the middle and they were Park and Fletcher, Barry and De Jong couldn't cope with them without outnumbering them 3 to 2?

6. I have never needed anyone backing me up and am willing to wait and see how he pans out, but right now I would say there are some major flaws in his game and a couple of crunching tackles a game don't cover up the cracks. BTW, what do you think of Fletcher? Because the filth fanboys think he is the best midfielder in the league, all of them to a man, makes you wonder if perhaps they aren't looking through their own rose tints the same way you are on De Jong, thank god the majority agree with you.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

How many fucking times does it have to be repeated? I didn't say De Jong was shite player, I said he was shite in second half against rags.

My overall opinion about De Jong I said in the thread last week. He is not shite nor world class. Some of the posts you have quoted there makes poster look nothing short of tool. De Jong, I'm 100% sure, is temporary solution for season or two as holding midfielder. He was probably best we could get last january, so fair enough for signing him but i'm sure Hughes is aiming for truly World Class player like Toure's brother or someone similar in future.

And whoever there said he has been class all along didn't watch us last season. Fact. He was on many games shite last season, although he had just come from long term injury but shite nevertheless.

Personally I like Kompany's all action never say die style much more but that comes down to preference.

[mr_nool]

1. His name is De Jong or Nigel or NDJ if you like. Schlong is a stupid nickname given to him by 10yo's who think it's funny to give him the name of a penis. Not clever, not funny, annoying more than anything.

2. He was shit last season, we had Kompany and a very inform Ireland playing in the midfield and we couldn't help but concede, so I guess it would be foolish to take onboard anything that comes from CityMancs if they truly believe a fortress could be constructed on the back of those two defensive midfielders.

3. Blue Moon is ridiculed on here for their lack of knowledge and now you are using them as back up for your point? As you stated, you make up your own mind, but it seems like that mind is not so sure of its convictions that it doesn't need a majority backing it up to feel validated. Don't try denying it, the proof IS your last post.

4. I said he was god awful in the Arsenal game and he was, the two goals came right through him, actually the second goal looked like they were taking the piss out of him the same way you would with a ball and an excitable dog. Do you want the ball? Do you? Do you want it? The first goal he was standing off the play and watching as the ball came in to RVP and didn't do anything to try and close down his room. Lescott makes a mistake, RVP scores but it never should have gotten that far if NDJ was doing his job.

5. I didn't say he was shit in the Utd game or the Fulham game(didn't see that one) but if we are critiquing it, when Ireland was moved left and we had Barry and De Jong in the middle, it was De Jong that was pleading for Hughes to move Ireland back into the midfield as we were being overrun so badly it looked like we were a pub team playing a world XI. Utd were playing two in the middle and they were Park and Fletcher, Barry and De Jong couldn't cope with them without outnumbering them 3 to 2?

6. I have never needed anyone backing me up and am willing to wait and see how he pans out, but right now I would say there are some major flaws in his game and a couple of crunching tackles a game don't cover up the cracks. BTW, what do you think of Fletcher? Because the filth fanboys think he is the best midfielder in the league, all of them to a man, makes you wonder if perhaps they aren't looking through their own rose tints the same way you are on De Jong, thank god the majority agree with you.

It's actually de Jong, you ignorant fuck!

[Slim]

It's actually de Jong, you ignorant fuck!

Fair enough.

[Robinho_Is_GOD]

As a defensive midfielder, (or employed in that position), is he not meant to protect the back four and be a solid barrier that is hard to break, by either ground or aerial attack (ala Hamann, Vieira, Makelele or Kompany)?

If the answer is "no", then what is the job and point of him being in the team, as if he ventures into the opposition half, he retreats back into ours once he realises, faster than the French Army.

If the answer is "yes" then he is failing on that account, the 4 games he missed we kept clean sheets, the three he has played, we have shipped 7 goals, hardly inspiring stuff is it?......to be any use to us in this league, he would need to adapt his passing so that he can see players stood in front of him, and find them!, and also grow about 4-5 inches, so that he isn't by-passed by a delicate lob over his head (but reaching Adebayor's chest height).

[Robinho_Is_GOD]

Ooooppps forgot to add.....in short I think he is crap yes!........I must have been washing the pots when he has had these great moments in the games for City.

[Fidel Castro]

1. His name is De Jong or Nigel or NDJ if you like. Schlong is a stupid nickname given to him by 10yo's who think it's funny to give him the name of a penis. Not clever, not funny, annoying more than anything.

2. He was shit last season, we had Kompany and a very inform Ireland playing in the midfield and we couldn't help but concede, so I guess it would be foolish to take onboard anything that comes from CityMancs if they truly believe a fortress could be constructed on the back of those two defensive midfielders.

3. Blue Moon is ridiculed on here for their lack of knowledge and now you are using them as back up for your point? As you stated, you make up your own mind, but it seems like that mind is not so sure of its convictions that it doesn't need a majority backing it up to feel validated. Don't try denying it, the proof IS your last post.

4. I said he was god awful in the Arsenal game and he was, the two goals came right through him, actually the second goal looked like they were taking the piss out of him the same way you would with a ball and an excitable dog. Do you want the ball? Do you? Do you want it? The first goal he was standing off the play and watching as the ball came in to RVP and didn't do anything to try and close down his room. Lescott makes a mistake, RVP scores but it never should have gotten that far if NDJ was doing his job.

5. I didn't say he was shit in the Utd game or the Fulham game(didn't see that one) but if we are critiquing it, when Ireland was moved left and we had Barry and De Jong in the middle, it was De Jong that was pleading for Hughes to move Ireland back into the midfield as we were being overrun so badly it looked like we were a pub team playing a world XI. Utd were playing two in the middle and they were Park and Fletcher, Barry and De Jong couldn't cope with them without outnumbering them 3 to 2?

6. I have never needed anyone backing me up and am willing to wait and see how he pans out, but right now I would say there are some major flaws in his game and a couple of crunching tackles a game don't cover up the cracks. BTW, what do you think of Fletcher? Because the filth fanboys think he is the best midfielder in the league, all of them to a man, makes you wonder if perhaps they aren't looking through their own rose tints the same way you are on De Jong, thank god the majority agree with you.

It's actually de Jong, you ignorant fuck!

Is it fuck. He has one name and one name only - wrinkly dog!

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

As a defensive midfielder, (or employed in that position), is he not meant to protect the back four and be a solid barrier that is hard to break, by either ground or aerial attack (ala Hamann, Vieira, Makelele or Kompany)?

If the answer is "no", then what is the job and point of him being in the team, as if he ventures into the opposition half, he retreats back into ours once he realises, faster than the French Army.

If the answer is "yes" then he is failing on that account, the 4 games he missed we kept clean sheets, the three he has played, we have shipped 7 goals, hardly inspiring stuff is it?......to be any use to us in this league, he would need to adapt his passing so that he can see players stood in front of him, and find them!, and also grow about 4-5 inches, so that he isn't by-passed by a delicate lob over his head (but reaching Adebayor's chest height).

I basically agree with (apart from height issue). Again I'm not saying he is shite band stats tell everything, they don't , but basically holding midfielder's effiecency can be seen on two stats, posession and goals conceded. Against Arsenal we were struggling little bit on both departments and in second half against rags we were shocking on both. Apparently against Fulham we dominated these areas. Now Rags and Arsenal are world class teams, so this raises the question whether De Jong (de Jong to Nooly) is the kind of holding midfielder we need when wrestling with top oppositions in the future. I don't think he is, but what do you people think?

[Beefymcfc]

1. His name is De Jong or Nigel or NDJ if you like. Schlong is a stupid nickname given to him by 10yo's who think it's funny to give him the name of a penis. Not clever, not funny, annoying more than anything.

2. He was shit last season, we had Kompany and a very inform Ireland playing in the midfield and we couldn't help but concede, so I guess it would be foolish to take onboard anything that comes from CityMancs if they truly believe a fortress could be constructed on the back of those two defensive midfielders.

3. Blue Moon is ridiculed on here for their lack of knowledge and now you are using them as back up for your point? As you stated, you make up your own mind, but it seems like that mind is not so sure of its convictions that it doesn't need a majority backing it up to feel validated. Don't try denying it, the proof IS your last post.

4. I said he was god awful in the Arsenal game and he was, the two goals came right through him, actually the second goal looked like they were taking the piss out of him the same way you would with a ball and an excitable dog. Do you want the ball? Do you? Do you want it? The first goal he was standing off the play and watching as the ball came in to RVP and didn't do anything to try and close down his room. Lescott makes a mistake, RVP scores but it never should have gotten that far if NDJ was doing his job.

5. I didn't say he was shit in the Utd game or the Fulham game(didn't see that one) but if we are critiquing it, when Ireland was moved left and we had Barry and De Jong in the middle, it was De Jong that was pleading for Hughes to move Ireland back into the midfield as we were being overrun so badly it looked like we were a pub team playing a world XI. Utd were playing two in the middle and they were Park and Fletcher, Barry and De Jong couldn't cope with them without outnumbering them 3 to 2?

6. I have never needed anyone backing me up and am willing to wait and see how he pans out, but right now I would say there are some major flaws in his game and a couple of crunching tackles a game don't cover up the cracks. BTW, what do you think of Fletcher? Because the filth fanboys think he is the best midfielder in the league, all of them to a man, makes you wonder if perhaps they aren't looking through their own rose tints the same way you are on De Jong, thank god the majority agree with you.

I'll reply when I get time!

[david yearsley]

Having thought about it he was largely redundant as a holding mid 2nd half Sun coz we were basically defending with everyone back in front of our box. What NDJ perhaps should have done is follow Rooney everywhere and break up the triangles down the left hand side which Shrek initiated by coming deep - a man to man job in effect

[Fidel Castro]

As a defensive midfielder, (or employed in that position), is he not meant to protect the back four and be a solid barrier that is hard to break, by either ground or aerial attack (ala Hamann, Vieira, Makelele or Kompany)?

If the answer is "no", then what is the job and point of him being in the team, as if he ventures into the opposition half, he retreats back into ours once he realises, faster than the French Army.

If the answer is "yes" then he is failing on that account, the 4 games he missed we kept clean sheets, the three he has played, we have shipped 7 goals, hardly inspiring stuff is it?......to be any use to us in this league, he would need to adapt his passing so that he can see players stood in front of him, and find them!, and also grow about 4-5 inches, so that he isn't by-passed by a delicate lob over his head (but reaching Adebayor's chest height).

I basically agree with (apart from height issue). Again I'm not saying he is shite band stats tell everything, they don't , but basically holding midfielder's effiecency can be seen on two stats, posession and goals conceded. Against Arsenal we were struggling little bit on both departments and in second half against rags we were shocking on both. Apparently against Fulham we dominated these areas. Now Rags and Arsenal are world class teams, so this raises the question whether De Jong (de Jong to Nooly) is the kind of holding midfielder we need when wrestling with top oppositions in the future. I don't think he is, but what do you people think?

And Nooly is correct mister fuclin know-it-all. It's also van der Sar (not Van Der Sar), van der Vaart, van Basten etc etc.

[mr_nool]

As a defensive midfielder, (or employed in that position), is he not meant to protect the back four and be a solid barrier that is hard to break, by either ground or aerial attack (ala Hamann, Vieira, Makelele or Kompany)?

If the answer is "no", then what is the job and point of him being in the team, as if he ventures into the opposition half, he retreats back into ours once he realises, faster than the French Army.

If the answer is "yes" then he is failing on that account, the 4 games he missed we kept clean sheets, the three he has played, we have shipped 7 goals, hardly inspiring stuff is it?......to be any use to us in this league, he would need to adapt his passing so that he can see players stood in front of him, and find them!, and also grow about 4-5 inches, so that he isn't by-passed by a delicate lob over his head (but reaching Adebayor's chest height).

I basically agree with (apart from height issue). Again I'm not saying he is shite band stats tell everything, they don't , but basically holding midfielder's effiecency can be seen on two stats, posession and goals conceded. Against Arsenal we were struggling little bit on both departments and in second half against rags we were shocking on both. Apparently against Fulham we dominated these areas. Now Rags and Arsenal are world class teams, so this raises the question whether De Jong (de Jong to Nooly) is the kind of holding midfielder we need when wrestling with top oppositions in the future. I don't think he is, but what do you people think?

And Nooly is correct mister fuclin know-it-all. It's also van der Sar (not Van Der Sar), van der Vaart, van Basten etc etc.

My missus has one of them silly aristocrate wannabe sounding (for the uninitiated) Dutch names, and she gets really pissed off when foreigners get her name wrong. She's a bit crazy, though. I still owe her a pair of shoes for allowing CtK to crash at our place. Bitch!

[Beefymcfc]

1. His name is De Jong or Nigel or NDJ if you like. Schlong is a stupid nickname given to him by 10yo's who think it's funny to give him the name of a penis. Not clever, not funny, annoying more than anything.

Ha ha, unlike most Blues singing about Ade's manhood, but yes you are right, I am a 10yo?

2. He was shit last season, we had Kompany and a very inform Ireland playing in the midfield and we couldn't help but concede, so I guess it would be foolish to take onboard anything that comes from CityMancs if they truly believe a fortress could be constructed on the back of those two defensive midfielders.

We bought an injured player last season and as for CityMancs, you'll know better than me!

3. Blue Moon is ridiculed on here for their lack of knowledge and now you are using them as back up for your point? As you stated, you make up your own mind, but it seems like that mind is not so sure of its convictions that it doesn't need a majority backing it up to feel validated. Don't try denying it, the proof IS your last post.

Deny what, my mind is not made up on the Schlong, however I am willing to take every game on merit, rather than an instant reaction of a season past. As for BlueMoon, you'll probably know better than me, but it does seem to have a lot more posters who are regulars at the game who could give real input to the discussion. And, it wasn't to validate my point, it was to invalidate the minority on here. Get the point?

4. I said he was god awful in the Arsenal game and he was, the two goals came right through him, actually the second goal looked like they were taking the piss out of him the same way you would with a ball and an excitable dog. Do you want the ball? Do you? Do you want it? The first goal he was standing off the play and watching as the ball came in to RVP and didn't do anything to try and close down his room. Lescott makes a mistake, RVP scores but it never should have gotten that far if NDJ was doing his job.

Very true, but isn't it by mistakes that goals are scored and isn't hard not to make mistakes against a team like Arsenal? A game that we won 4-2 by the way!

5. I didn't say he was shit in the Utd game or the Fulham game(didn't see that one) but if we are critiquing it, when Ireland was moved left and we had Barry and De Jong in the middle, it was De Jong that was pleading for Hughes to move Ireland back into the midfield as we were being overrun so badly it looked like we were a pub team playing a world XI. Utd were playing two in the middle and they were Park and Fletcher, Barry and De Jong couldn't cope with them without outnumbering them 3 to 2?

Strange, I thought that they were a World XI or at least the League Champs, CL Finalists, WC Champs? You say that Barry and de Jong couldn't cope so does that bring Barry down in your estimation?

6. I have never needed anyone backing me up and am willing to wait and see how he pans out, but right now I would say there are some major flaws in his game and a couple of crunching tackles a game don't cover up the cracks. BTW, what do you think of Fletcher? Because the filth fanboys think he is the best midfielder in the league, all of them to a man, makes you wonder if perhaps they aren't looking through their own rose tints the same way you are on De Jong, thank god the majority agree with you.

As you mate, I have a mind of my own and don't have any pre-conceptions on one of our players. Nigel will either become a regular squad player (horses for courses) or ask for a move. As for Fletcher, I couldn't say as I don't go all out to watch him. He looks alright on MoTD for what he does, but then again, that could be down to the team he is in and the quality they have around him. And this is nothing to do with the majority, but more about understanding the minority. Thanks!

I'll reply when I get time!

There you go pal, told you I'd get back to you. But I don't see the problem and the need to explain yourself in such depth, when in fact, all I asked is how do you come to your opinion. I respect your views, just don't understand where they come from?

[ronk]

There you go pal, told you I'd get back to you. But I don't see the problem and the need to explain yourself in such depth, when in fact, all I asked is how do you come to your opinion. I respect your views, just don't understand where they come from?

I wouldn't expect a short answer (unless I was being told to fuck off) if I asked someone how they came to their opinion.