BobbyJ1956 wrote:There was a thread on here a few days ago about the mood of City supporters in 1968 when they won the 1st Division championship and it was mostly agreed that there was a better feeling back then, both more optimistic and less impatient, and less apt to throw a fit after a defeat - witness the "I hate City" posts that appeared on Bluemoon after the derby. I was talking about this kind of thing to an old (old as me) Spurs fan today and then I come home, open the e-mails, and see this on the latest edition of mcivta:
"We have beaten Arsenal with considerable style twice this year, so we (being City) are all but guaranteed to blow it this time. Our impregnable fortress is leaking points, so losing to Spurs and or Villa should not be a major shock. Even WHAM are likely to beat us if the points are crucial to either side." Why do people post negative shite like this? Do they go out of the house and always expect to see a bus go sailing past the end of the road before they reach the stop? Do they get on a plane when they're going on holiday to a nice sunny destination and announce that it'll only rain when we get there, or the plane will crash, or we'll all get food poisoning? Miserable buggers. OK, if you're a pessimist that's how you are, but bloody shut up about it and don't spread your misery around. City are in the best position they've been in for 30 years and I am fucking sick of people moaning for the sake of moaning, there isn't a club in the land and none in Europe apart from Barcelona whose supporters think their future's brighter than City's right now. Maybe, as I think John68 suggested before, the negative attitude has become ingrained in younger fans who have known nothing but years of false dawns and disappointments, and maybe it will take several years of winning trophies before City have that confident, "we expect to win" attitude that the successful teams (you know who) have. But let's at least try to approach games in the spirit of thinking we have a real good chance, otherwise we might as well just stay in bed and pull the covers over us and say goodnight for ever.
john68 wrote:Bobby Mate....fantastic post. Earlier in the week, this issue was discussed at a meal I had with oleder blues Kippax and Douglas, all of us from that era (I think Douglas lies about his age...) and dazby who, being from Oz has a different cultural viewpoint..(if OZ has any culture???)...:-)
Dazby said he was shocked at how fickle so many City fans seemed in their attitude at his 1st game (Brum 5-1) and the way so many left the ground prior to the end of the game.
Doug has posted on here that the negativity astounds him, given our present situation.
I have felt like a bloody missionary trying to converting pessimists and I know that Gillie has been just as frustrated and posted many times to try and lift heads.
Slim also has, to his credit, steamed into a few too, trying to get some bloody sense into some....and there are others.
Welcome aboard Bobby...you are not alone.
No and I don't understand it either.
BobbyJ1956 wrote:There was a thread on here a few days ago about the mood of City supporters in 1968 when they won the 1st Division championship and it was mostly agreed that there was a better feeling back then, both more optimistic and less impatient, and less apt to throw a fit after a defeat - witness the "I hate City" posts that appeared on Bluemoon after the derby. I was talking about this kind of thing to an old (old as me) Spurs fan today and then I come home, open the e-mails, and see this on the latest edition of mcivta:
"We have beaten Arsenal with considerable style twice this year, so we (being City) are all but guaranteed to blow it this time. Our impregnable fortress is leaking points, so losing to Spurs and or Villa should not be a major shock. Even WHAM are likely to beat us if the points are crucial to either side." Why do people post negative shite like this? Do they go out of the house and always expect to see a bus go sailing past the end of the road before they reach the stop? Do they get on a plane when they're going on holiday to a nice sunny destination and announce that it'll only rain when we get there, or the plane will crash, or we'll all get food poisoning? Miserable buggers. OK, if you're a pessimist that's how you are, but bloody shut up about it and don't spread your misery around. City are in the best position they've been in for 30 years and I am fucking sick of people moaning for the sake of moaning, there isn't a club in the land and none in Europe apart from Barcelona whose supporters think their future's brighter than City's right now. Maybe, as I think John68 suggested before, the negative attitude has become ingrained in younger fans who have known nothing but years of false dawns and disappointments, and maybe it will take several years of winning trophies before City have that confident, "we expect to win" attitude that the successful teams (you know who) have. But let's at least try to approach games in the spirit of thinking we have a real good chance, otherwise we might as well just stay in bed and pull the covers over us and say goodnight for ever.
BobbyJ1956 wrote:There was a thread on here a few days ago about the mood of City supporters in 1968 when they won the 1st Division championship and it was mostly agreed that there was a better feeling back then, both more optimistic and less impatient, and less apt to throw a fit after a defeat - witness the "I hate City" posts that appeared on Bluemoon after the derby. I was talking about this kind of thing to an old (old as me) Spurs fan today and then I come home, open the e-mails, and see this on the latest edition of mcivta:
"We have beaten Arsenal with considerable style twice this year, so we (being City) are all but guaranteed to blow it this time. Our impregnable fortress is leaking points, so losing to Spurs and or Villa should not be a major shock. Even WHAM are likely to beat us if the points are crucial to either side." Why do people post negative shite like this? Do they go out of the house and always expect to see a bus go sailing past the end of the road before they reach the stop? Do they get on a plane when they're going on holiday to a nice sunny destination and announce that it'll only rain when we get there, or the plane will crash, or we'll all get food poisoning? Miserable buggers. OK, if you're a pessimist that's how you are, but bloody shut up about it and don't spread your misery around. City are in the best position they've been in for 30 years and I am fucking sick of people moaning for the sake of moaning, there isn't a club in the land and none in Europe apart from Barcelona whose supporters think their future's brighter than City's right now. Maybe, as I think John68 suggested before, the negative attitude has become ingrained in younger fans who have known nothing but years of false dawns and disappointments, and maybe it will take several years of winning trophies before City have that confident, "we expect to win" attitude that the successful teams (you know who) have. But let's at least try to approach games in the spirit of thinking we have a real good chance, otherwise we might as well just stay in bed and pull the covers over us and say goodnight for ever.
john68 wrote:...and herein lies the difference....
We play the derby and take the cutious approach. We ensure that thr rags don't win and we fail to do that and drop the points. Fans in the stands try to create the right atmosphere but it a party is it? No carnival style...get behind the team...and scream 'em over the finishing line.
Spurs take the different approach and design both chelsea and Arsenal a new arsehole. Their fans are all singing all dancing and their confidence couldn't be higher.
I don't know what the next few games will bring but i sure as hell would swap attitudes with Spurs at this moment.
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