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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Indianablue » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:06 am

Mase wrote:
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Mase wrote:Rayan Cherki described himself as a “free soul” with a duty to make fans happy after producing a moment of magic in Manchester City’s comfortable victory over Sunderland.

Yes Cherks lad. Keep doing what you're doing


'Be a free soul' and 'Doing it for the fans' - phrases i've heard before from others that thought they had great talent but then lacked consistency to make the step up to greatness.

Let's see how it goes


Which other players have said that?[/quote
Quite a few over the years. Anyone saying they are a free soul is a bit of a red flag to me. They tend to think they know best, not good at taking direction and ultimately dont fulfill potential. I'm sure you know a few but Balotelli was a classic case, Rodney Marsh, DAvid Bentley, Jimmy Bullard, stan Bowles, Frank Worthington, the list goes on. All good showman had had a great touch, but ultimately could have been so much better. Adel Taarabt ex QPR a supreme example. Not just confined to football. Nastase was a better olayer than Borg but nowhere near successful. Danny Cipriani. Good flyhalf but too much of a showman, ultimately failed.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Mase » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:31 am

When did any of those players say that? It's 2025 so they'll be plenty of quotes flying about that are accessible. Quote them here
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:47 am

Pep has mentioned MESSI 42 fuckign times ( I don't waste my spare time finding out shit ha ha ha ) in interviews since hes been here.
Why doesn't he just fly over there and bum him once and for all ?
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Indianablue » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:51 am

Mase wrote:When did any of those players say that? It's 2025 so they'll be plenty of quotes flying about that are accessible. Quote them here

So you don't except the point unless there is a quote?
You think they weren't mavericks or showmen ? If you have time on your hands look them up yourself. Balotelli is top of the pile, loved him but a tad uncontrollable, possible a better baller than Haaland
Was Cantona , he who was like a seagull following the trawler, was he as good as he could have been?
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Indianablue » Mon Dec 08, 2025 12:16 pm

https://lastwordonsports.com/football/2 ... tertainer/

Several quotes from Frank Worthington for you Mase.

Checkout Bullard on 'golflife' youtube channel. His games with Bentley are revealing . Good footballers but both admit they took the piss. Good golfers also.

Rodney Marsh autobiography , entitled Loose Cannon. City press used to call him a showman, he freely reckons he cost City the title.
Cherki needs to be consistent . He obviously was told to shed some timber and improve his fitness. He had a great game and produced s moment of magic. If he continues to have great games perhaps he can spout the entertainer free spirit bollocks then
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Mase » Mon Dec 08, 2025 12:57 pm

Bringing up players with clear mental health issues because Cherki has had a good game expressing himself :lol: class. What the fuck has that got to do with the price of fish?

Why not bring up all the flare players that have continued to express themselves and been class and won the lot?
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby PeterParker » Mon Dec 08, 2025 1:20 pm

Guardiola will always be a control freak.
Always was and always will.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Mase » Mon Dec 08, 2025 1:20 pm

PeterParker wrote:Guardiola will always be a control freak.
Always was and always will.


It's not Pep's fault. Look at Rodney Marsh
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Indianablue » Mon Dec 08, 2025 2:03 pm

Mase wrote:Bringing up players with clear mental health issues because Cherki has had a good game expressing himself :lol: class. What the fuck has that got to do with the price of fish?

Why not bring up all the flare players that have continued to express themselves and been class and won the lot?


Cherki can express himself all he wants when he's consistently good helps us perform better.

Who has the clear mental health issues? and is that the case for them all or are you switching things because you dont want to accept any part of Pep's perspective. I've already said that i dont agree with criticism in public but i can see how doing a rabona could be seen as high risk option.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Nickyboy » Mon Dec 08, 2025 5:04 pm

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The fact he mention it proves it was an issue. Anything that causes Pep to bring up Messi, and publicly not privately go on about what he should be doing instead of praising what Cherki has done, shows it was an issue for Pep
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Think you're over thinking it a bit. It was a pretty straightforward comment about it being good because it came off but if he does it and it doesn't there'll be trouble. Pretty standard stuff.

Not helped by the fact that footballers and managers are forced into doing about 50 interviews a week and every comment gets blown up and over analysed
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Mase » Mon Dec 08, 2025 5:56 pm

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The fact he mention it proves it was an issue. Anything that causes Pep to bring up Messi, and publicly not privately go on about what he should be doing instead of praising what Cherki has done, shows it was an issue for Pep
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Think you're over thinking it a bit. It was a pretty straightforward comment about it being good because it came off but if he does it and it doesn't there'll be trouble. Pretty standard stuff.

Not helped by the fact that footballers and managers are forced into doing about 50 interviews a week and every comment gets blown up and over analysed[/quote]

In the same breath he said Savio doesn't listen but he'll be playing a lot. Just praise the player that played well. Give him constructive feedback in private
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby zuricity » Tue Dec 09, 2025 8:59 am

Pep is a wum, he only says these things to piss a few people off on mcf.net.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Mase » Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:09 am

zuricity wrote:Pep is a wum, he only says these things to piss a few people off on mcf.net.


He didn't piss me off when he said this -

City manager Pep Guardiola labelled Aleksandar Kolarov’s centre-back performance in Saturday’s win over Sunderland as “one of the best” he has seen.


https://www.mancity.com/news/first-team/first-team-news/2016/august/14-aug-pep-10-30-embargo-quotes
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:12 am

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zuricity wrote:Pep is a wum, he only says these things to piss a few people off on mcf.net.


He didn't piss me off when he said this -

City manager Pep Guardiola labelled Aleksandar Kolarov’s centre-back performance in Saturday’s win over Sunderland as “one of the best” he has seen.


https://www.mancity.com/news/first-team/first-team-news/2016/august/14-aug-pep-10-30-embargo-quotes


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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Crossie » Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:14 am

I want to be entertained.

I’ve seen it all now, I’m grateful, forever. But I want to see entertainment.

That cross on Saturday was the most exciting thing I’ve seen for a long time in our stadium.

We have skill in abundance, imagine Foden unleashed, look at what happened with Grealish, shackled for the greater good. It worked too, great, thanks. But as long as we’re up there, I’m not bothered about perfection football. I want to see risk, flair, skill.

I want to see Kompany/Dias goals, Foden take on 8 players, Doku on fire, Haaland bulldozing, treat us.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:58 am

Crossie wrote:I want to be entertained.

I’ve seen it all now, I’m grateful, forever. But I want to see entertainment.

That cross on Saturday was the most exciting thing I’ve seen for a long time in our stadium.

We have skill in abundance, imagine Foden unleashed, look at what happened with Grealish, shackled for the greater good. It worked too, great, thanks. But as long as we’re up there, I’m not bothered about perfection football. I want to see risk, flair, skill.

I want to see Kompany/Dias goals, Foden take on 8 players, Doku on fire, Haaland bulldozing, treat us.


Crossie, mate, you’ve absolutely fucking nailed it. I’m with you 100 % and then some.
I didn’t start supporting this club to watch a load of million pound robots playing the safest, most boring version of football imaginable. I’m here for the buzz, the roar, the moments that make you jump out your seat that scare the fucking dog or cat!!.
That rabona the other day? Electric. Proper “I saw it live” stuff. First time in fucking ages watching the whole ground come alive instead of just politely clapping another sideways pass. One bit of outrageous skill and our stadium went mental !! – that’s what football is supposed to feel like.
We’ve won everything there is to win playing Pep football, risk-free way, and its been unreal, most of the time. But somewhere along the line we started treating “not making a mistake” as the ultimate virtue, and now half our players shit themselves to try anything that isn’t pre-approved by Pep.

Just watching Foden taking on three men instead of the easy five-yard boring pass back to the centre-half - Doku taking the piss out of their wingers and defenders. Haaland bullying defenders like they nicked his dinner money. Even the odd Dias worldly from 35 yards !. That’s the stuff that lives rent-free in your head for fucking decades.
Winning matters, of course it does, but never, ever at any cost. If the price of another title is turning into a team of joyless pass pass pass possession possession possession who’d rather die than misplace a fucking pass, then to be honest I’d rather not watch.

Pep loves his controlled robots, and it’s obviously worked But right now I’d swap ten points of possession for ten seconds of pure chaos every single week. Let the lads off the leash sometimes. Let them entertain us ffs and pleased do not have a dig at players who want to ' express ' themselves..allow them to do exactly that.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Dec 11, 2025 7:58 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Crossie wrote:I want to be entertained.

I’ve seen it all now, I’m grateful, forever. But I want to see entertainment.

That cross on Saturday was the most exciting thing I’ve seen for a long time in our stadium.

We have skill in abundance, imagine Foden unleashed, look at what happened with Grealish, shackled for the greater good. It worked too, great, thanks. But as long as we’re up there, I’m not bothered about perfection football. I want to see risk, flair, skill.

I want to see Kompany/Dias goals, Foden take on 8 players, Doku on fire, Haaland bulldozing, treat us.


Crossie, mate, you’ve absolutely fucking nailed it. I’m with you 100 % and then some.
I didn’t start supporting this club to watch a load of million pound robots playing the safest, most boring version of football imaginable. I’m here for the buzz, the roar, the moments that make you jump out your seat that scare the fucking dog or cat!!.
That rabona the other day? Electric. Proper “I saw it live” stuff. First time in fucking ages watching the whole ground come alive instead of just politely clapping another sideways pass. One bit of outrageous skill and our stadium went mental !! – that’s what football is supposed to feel like.
We’ve won everything there is to win playing Pep football, risk-free way, and its been unreal, most of the time. But somewhere along the line we started treating “not making a mistake” as the ultimate virtue, and now half our players shit themselves to try anything that isn’t pre-approved by Pep.

Just watching Foden taking on three men instead of the easy five-yard boring pass back to the centre-half - Doku taking the piss out of their wingers and defenders. Haaland bullying defenders like they nicked his dinner money. Even the odd Dias worldly from 35 yards !. That’s the stuff that lives rent-free in your head for fucking decades.
Winning matters, of course it does, but never, ever at any cost. If the price of another title is turning into a team of joyless pass pass pass possession possession possession who’d rather die than misplace a fucking pass, then to be honest I’d rather not watch.

Pep loves his controlled robots, and it’s obviously worked But right now I’d swap ten points of possession for ten seconds of pure chaos every single week. Let the lads off the leash sometimes. Let them entertain us ffs and pleased do not have a dig at players who want to ' express ' themselves..allow them to do exactly that.


Both nailed it

Before I left the UK, I stopped going for a time when Mancini first came in and gave my ticke to mates for free, as I'd honestly rather stay in the pub and have a few pints than spend 2 hours going to/from the game to see the life squeezed out of the game - I honestly never knew winning 4.0 could be so miserable until Mancini......but at least I understood the transition he was tasked with and respected why he was doing what he did.

Pep's been the same now even in the treble year, we rarely played great football - it's now 4 or 5 seasons since we really played with any flair or intent on a regular basis - and through a lack of interest, I've not watched a Champions League game now I think since I went to the final.

Fans are turned off, there's no doubt about it, and I don' think it's too big a reach to look at the time Sterling left and a slower Grealish came in as being a turning point when we stopped using pace as a weapon. I still can't understand the purchase of Grealish other than him being English and I really do wonder whether this was something pushed on Pep. The absolute reluctance to allow him to beat a man was almost like Pep signalling to the board they had bought the wrong player, but fair play to Jack for contributing in the way Pep asked for so long.

I think Pep's moving in the right direction, we've seen for sure that Doku is being encouraged to take risks and run, and looking at his numbers, what he seems to have learned now from 2 years of Pep is when to do it and when not to, and as a result he's having a lot more success now than previous now he understands what Pep expects of him.

Pep will never shift from his core philosophy of posession being the fundamental of defence, and I think we'd all back him in that general concept, but there's no doubt Pep's approach the last few years as his old squad moved on, has been about playing the percentages - he's proven you can win leagues time and time again through sheer attritional consistency over a 40 game league season.

I wonder though if, as I speculated the other day, the requirement has changed now and Pep is restructuring the squad to be more competitive in Europe, where you need to have a clear cutting edge in games - consistency will get us through group stages and most 2 legged ties for sure, but to dominate in Europe the attritional approach that he's perfected in the PL won't work, you need to have a spark that will win you tight ties, and I think everything points to us moving in that direction.
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Hazy2 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 8:35 am

Pepadoodledoo…..
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Blue Jam » Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:27 am

Is Keegan available?
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Re: Pep Has To Go The End Of This Season

Postby Wonderwall » Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:00 pm

Blue Jam wrote:Is Keegan available?


Paul Jewell might be
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