brite blu sky wrote:Like everything John there are pros and cons. for that i suppose it is horses for courses.. if the oppo has a very good one footed FB then the advantage of playing him on his weaker foot could be all the difference.. as A.Gray says
"the winger can get on his strong foot at the crucial time while the full back is then on his weaker side.
Overmars makes a good point about receiving the ball on his stronger foot and the extra split second he gained from that.
However in practice i suppose the ideal is having the oppo not knowing what you are going to do, so a left winger always played on the right is going to be quickly understood and countered. The best situation is for both wingers to be familiar with switching over at crucial times, that way if our right back or left back was having reasonable success then by switching the wingers you can really start to pile the pressure on the oppo FB who is struggling a bit.
For me the modern game is all about creativity and keeping the oppo unsure of where the danger is going to come from.. that for me is why when he is on song Steven Ireland is unplayable, because he is a one man unpredictability machine.
In ref to Mancini, he is using the wingers on both sides quite regularly, this for me can only be good as it then remains a comfortable option during games as the players know how to play it.. i imagine given plenty of practice and familiarity that the wingers can read better what type of cross to go for ( inswinging or outswinging ) depending who is in the centre or running in.
Inswingers from deep have a Rory Delap type feel to them and can be very difficult to deal with
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:brite blu sky wrote:Like everything John there are pros and cons. for that i suppose it is horses for courses.. if the oppo has a very good one footed FB then the advantage of playing him on his weaker foot could be all the difference.. as A.Gray says
"the winger can get on his strong foot at the crucial time while the full back is then on his weaker side.
Overmars makes a good point about receiving the ball on his stronger foot and the extra split second he gained from that.
However in practice i suppose the ideal is having the oppo not knowing what you are going to do, so a left winger always played on the right is going to be quickly understood and countered. The best situation is for both wingers to be familiar with switching over at crucial times, that way if our right back or left back was having reasonable success then by switching the wingers you can really start to pile the pressure on the oppo FB who is struggling a bit.
For me the modern game is all about creativity and keeping the oppo unsure of where the danger is going to come from.. that for me is why when he is on song Steven Ireland is unplayable, because he is a one man unpredictability machine.
In ref to Mancini, he is using the wingers on both sides quite regularly, this for me can only be good as it then remains a comfortable option during games as the players know how to play it.. i imagine given plenty of practice and familiarity that the wingers can read better what type of cross to go for ( inswinging or outswinging ) depending who is in the centre or running in.
Inswingers from deep have a Rory Delap type feel to them and can be very difficult to deal with
That's the main thing here. The game is played on such pace these days compared to yesteryear that any split second you'll gain from something unpredictable is going to work for you.
Also as Keown explained there, it's much more complicated than some people make it out to be here. It forces fullback to play closer to winger and therefore leaves space behind the fullback for striker or another midfielder to run to.
But as said, there are no right or wrong way here. It's all about overall system the team uses, the individual strenghts and weaknesses teams have. We have lot of players with pace and people who can pass the ball around so I can see it working for us once the players get use to it. Players like Tevez will flourish on that system because of the extra space it creates. However, as stated it might make us less dynamic on occasion with players cutting in and wingers have to (learn) to be familiar with playing on opposite wing.
Despite the critism directed at it, I believe our weaknesses under Mancini have been elsewhere.
john68 wrote:Just one point on that Antti, How can a winger cutting in create exrtra space?...By cutting in, the winger draws the full back with him into the middle, thus leaving the space outside him and decreasing the space in the middle.
Rag_hater wrote:john68 wrote:Just one point on that Antti, How can a winger cutting in create exrtra space?...By cutting in, the winger draws the full back with him into the middle, thus leaving the space outside him and decreasing the space in the middle.
I think so it would leave space for the LB or RB to run into.
In theory I suppose.
john68 wrote:Rag_hater wrote:john68 wrote:Just one point on that Antti, How can a winger cutting in create exrtra space?...By cutting in, the winger draws the full back with him into the middle, thus leaving the space outside him and decreasing the space in the middle.
I think so it would leave space for the LB or RB to run into.
In theory I suppose.
...and then the full back could cross the ball from wide...which could have been originally done by a traditional winger doing it in the 1st place. He would also be crossing into a more crowded area with the extra defender.
john68 wrote:...and then the full back could cross the ball from wide...which could have been originally done by a traditional winger doing it in the 1st place. He would also be crossing into a more crowded area with the extra defender.
john68 wrote:Rag_hater wrote:john68 wrote:Just one point on that Antti, How can a winger cutting in create exrtra space?...By cutting in, the winger draws the full back with him into the middle, thus leaving the space outside him and decreasing the space in the middle.
I think so it would leave space for the LB or RB to run into.
In theory I suppose.
...and then the full back could cross the ball from wide...which could have been originally done by a traditional winger doing it in the 1st place. He would also be crossing into a more crowded area with the extra defender.
john68 wrote:Just one point on that Antti, How can a winger cutting in create exrtra space?...By cutting in, the winger draws the full back with him into the middle, thus leaving the space outside him and decreasing the space in the middle.
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Btajim.
Hi Garry,I just wanted to shake your hand and ask you a question.I go to COMS as mucha as possible but sometimes I cannot leave the house as Sophie.....sorry..Sophie is my Cat...... needs a carer when Im away and sometimes I cannot find one.
My question is ; Is it possible to bring Sophie to matches at COMS in her kitten box and can she come in for free?
halnone wrote:I like the idea but it just doesn't work with some of the players we have.
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