New Super League

[ayrshireblue]

Super League lawyers in court this morning to protect its players from future sanctions such as international bans etc.

I don't think they can protect them. By playing in a competition that is outwith FIFA sanctions then the players and clubs leave themselves to being banned from FIFA sanctioned tournaments which also includes all UEFA and domestic tournaments.
I think it says it all that there is nothing on the club's official Twitter feed about the ESL or even a link to the statement from the club as they must know the fans would be outraged by our involvement in this non-competitive competition. Fans not being in the grounds to voice their outrage is also another factor that has been used to make now the time to come out with this. Using covid as an excuse to need to break away is bad enough but using the health sanctions imposed on all the clubs as a windbreak to getting abuse about being a founder member is deplorable.
UEFA stinks but you don't beat the stink by creating an even bigger stench!!

[Blue Jam]

True.

I'm thinking of going to watch Congleton Town and / or Port Vale, at least until this fad blows over.

What worries me is that some of us will choose clubs that are supported by Rags and Dippers.

Can't have that. Maine Road FC anyone?

[johnny crossan]

Super League lawyers in court this morning to protect its players from future sanctions such as international bans etc.

I don't think they can protect them. By playing in a competition that is outwith FIFA sanctions then the players and clubs leave themselves to being banned from FIFA sanctioned tournaments which also includes all UEFA and domestic tournaments....

If they did succeed in banning ESL players from current international competitions, which I think unlikely, the breakaway league could then set up their own equivalent representative tournaments. The big clubs hold all the cards here.

[PeterParker]

Super League lawyers in court this morning to protect its players from future sanctions such as international bans etc.

I don't think they can protect them. By playing in a competition that is outwith FIFA sanctions then the players and clubs leave themselves to being banned from FIFA sanctioned tournaments which also includes all UEFA and domestic tournaments....

If they did succeed in banning ESL players from current international competitions, which I think unlikely, the breakaway league could then set up their own equivalent representative tournaments. The big clubs hold all the cards here.

Don't think they can, Johnny.
The Euros or World Cup can't go on without the biggest players of the world. Imagine a semi decent nation that has half of the players in the super league and half in the remaining UEFA competitions.

Imho, if UEFA has the balls and will go all the way, they can really, really, really crush the big clubs through their players.

[Mase]

True.

I'm thinking of going to watch Congleton Town and / or Port Vale, at least until this fad blows over.

What worries me is that some of us will choose clubs that are supported by Rags and Dippers.

Can't have that. Maine Road FC anyone?

I’ve already messaged Chorley FC to see what the score is regarding people attending matches yet.

[dave watson's perm]

They obviously think that they can win any legal battle to still compete in the PL and this is merely a replacement for the CL. One wonders how the players are reacting to all of this.

[johnny crossan]

"No German teams will take part in the Euro Super League " lol - they banked on the 'Super' bit being irresistible to the krauts

[stupot]

Tottenham joining a European Suoer League is like a Bananaman getting called up as an Avenger

[Outcast]

I can't keep up with all this shit. Why do we put ourselves through It all. We're literally like heroine addicts, we'll be back and the drug Lords (clubs) know it.

[johnny crossan]

Man City - Founder Member of the ESL. Matchday income is largely irrelevant, it is the dawn of the the digital supporter. We've got maybe 20k current fans who'd turn up no matter what and provide the illusion of a packed stadium I suppose.

[johnny crossan]

Super League lawyers in court this morning to protect its players from future sanctions such as international bans etc.

I don't think they can protect them. By playing in a competition that is outwith FIFA sanctions then the players and clubs leave themselves to being banned from FIFA sanctioned tournaments which also includes all UEFA and domestic tournaments....

If they did succeed in banning ESL players from current international competitions, which I think unlikely, the breakaway league could then set up their own equivalent representative tournaments. The big clubs hold all the cards here.

Don't think they can, Johnny.
The Euros or World Cup can't go on without the biggest players of the world. Imagine a semi decent nation that has half of the players in the super league and half in the remaining UEFA competitions.

Imho, if UEFA has the balls and will go all the way, they can really, really, really crush the big clubs through their players.

So you're agreeing with me PP, you also think UEFA/FIFA won't succeed in banning ESL players from their competitions?

[CBBT]

I’ve said plenty about this but overall what would they be playing for ?? A cup , no a pot of gold money money money!! 15 out of the 20/25 teams can never be relegated no matter what it turns into! It would have to become a European league as most founder clubs will be thrown out of their respective leagues. Then it’s home and away to Europe Europe Europe only the prawn sandwich brigade can follow that not real fans !! It will be short lived as people will get fed up of what will be a very boring set up!! By which time certainly in this Country football will be dead!! At a level we have now , why try to fix something that is not broken the EPL and the EFL are as good as they get. This is jealousy from abroad because their Cartels are finished, the corruption has run its course so let’s create something new to corrupt!! Please s I thought as a country we have had enough of Europe and voted a majority for out!! City I love you till the day I die but cannot support this , today you no longer became the club of the people you joined the rest , I feel like it’s a knife in the heart 56 years of regular attendance and all the History before it , yes real History no matter what other comedians think or say. Sad day , turn it round Khaldoon PLEASE!!!

[BlueinBosnia]

Man City - Founder Member of the ESL. Matchday income is largely irrelevant, it is the dawn of the the digital supporter. We've got maybe 20k current fans who'd turn up no matter what and provide the illusion of a packed stadium I suppose.

20k current fans, plus a rotating bunch of 10-15k who currently can't get tickets and/or are only interested in European nights, plus another few thousand tourists, who'll see us at home one week, the Rags at home the next, and pump money into Manchester's economy during their stay in-between (for which the proposed mega-casino would have been a big hit, I reckon).

Can't see too many travelling to support us away, though. I guess this will be the end of away seating: 50% home fans, 50% neutrals.

[johnny crossan]

I’ve said plenty about this but overall what would they be playing for ?? A cup , no a pot of gold money money money!! 15 out of the 20/25 teams can never be relegated no matter what it turns into! It would have to become a European league as most founder clubs will be thrown out of their respective leagues. Then it’s home and away to Europe Europe Europe only the prawn sandwich brigade can follow that not real fans !! It will be short lived as people will get fed up of what will be a very boring set up!! By which time certainly in this Country football will be dead!! At a level we have now , why try to fix something that is not broken the EPL and the EFL are as good as they get. This is jealousy from abroad because their Cartels are finished, the corruption has run its course so let’s create something new to corrupt!! Please s I thought as a country we have had enough of Europe and voted a majority for out!! City I love you till the day I die but cannot support this , today you no longer became the club of the people you joined the rest , I feel like it’s a knife in the heart 56 years of regular attendance and all the History before it , yes real History no matter what other comedians think or say. Sad day , turn it round Khaldoon PLEASE!!!

The likely outcome is ESL participants will still compete in their own domestic leagues, which will be reduced in size to accommodate the new tournament. The PL surely can't expel its creators and the FA is irrelevant!

[PeterParker]

Super League lawyers in court this morning to protect its players from future sanctions such as international bans etc.

I don't think they can protect them. By playing in a competition that is outwith FIFA sanctions then the players and clubs leave themselves to being banned from FIFA sanctioned tournaments which also includes all UEFA and domestic tournaments....

If they did succeed in banning ESL players from current international competitions, which I think unlikely, the breakaway league could then set up their own equivalent representative tournaments. The big clubs hold all the cards here.

Don't think they can, Johnny.
The Euros or World Cup can't go on without the biggest players of the world. Imagine a semi decent nation that has half of the players in the super league and half in the remaining UEFA competitions.

Imho, if UEFA has the balls and will go all the way, they can really, really, really crush the big clubs through their players.

So you're agreeing with me PP, you also think UEFA/FIFA won't succeed in banning ESL players from their competitions?

No idea, huge gamble. If UEFA/FIFA want to respond and attack the clubs, the players are the way to do it. No idea if the clubs actually have the full players support in this.
As much as I hate footballers these days, they are the last to point out in this fiasco, but might be the first to suffer the consequences.

[blues2win]

If this goes ahead which looks likely I for one will continue to support our team, including buying tickets for the midweek super league matches.

[johnny crossan]

No idea, huge gamble. If UEFA/FIFA want to respond and attack the clubs, the players are the way to do it. No idea if the clubs actually have the full players support in this. As much as I hate footballers these days, they are the last to point out in this fiasco, but might be the first to suffer the consequences.

The clubs pay the players' wages, which for most are likely to be higher and more secure in the ESL - I think there will be little doubt where their loyalties will lie in any contest between club v country.

[Blue Jam]

Man City - Founder Member of the ESL. Matchday income is largely irrelevant, it is the dawn of the the digital supporter. We've got maybe 20k current fans who'd turn up no matter what and provide the illusion of a packed stadium I suppose.

I wonder how many of us would go and watch if tickets prices were dropped massively?

I wouldn't, but we all have our breaking point. If they drop the price of chips I'll probably go.

Seriously though - not just us fans but businesses in the City eco-system (Townley, Mary Ds, Chippy) will lose out.

[PeterParker]

No idea, huge gamble. If UEFA/FIFA want to respond and attack the clubs, the players are the way to do it. No idea if the clubs actually have the full players support in this. As much as I hate footballers these days, they are the last to point out in this fiasco, but might be the first to suffer the consequences.

The clubs pay the players' wages, which for most are likely to be higher and more secure in the ESL - I think there will be little doubt where their loyalties will lie in any contest between club v country.

Yes, but it will also break the footballers world into two, the big ones that play for those clubs and the rest.
My questions are:
1. What will happen to international football?
2. What will happen with the rest of the clubs in Europe?
3. Will teams like Atalanta, Spartak Moscow, etc will never play again City, Rags, etc?

[Blue Jam]

Lot's of Neville licking going on via social media. Understandable as the points he makes resonate.

He knew this was coming and knew many of the details, I suspect he has spend days, perhaps weeks writing that rant.

We can agree with him, but what are his motivations? A poster above mentioned that as an investor in a non league club, he has vested interests and loses out.

This (nicked from FB) sums up my doubts... "[Neville] works for Sky and they were the ones who changed football and made it more about money and overseas investors . Are Sky making the most noise as they don't have the rights to show the games yet?"